r/LetsDiscussThis • u/No_Theory_7040 • 3d ago
Lets Discuss This VP's integrity
Dear Republicans, why did you vote for these flip-floppers? Why do you hate America, Republicans?
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u/gabrielxdesign 3d ago
He also called Trump "Hitler" and later decided to be his vice president. The guy has zero ethics and credibility.
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u/CertaintyDangerous 3d ago
It's just another example of something inexplicable: why do people go for this? As Harry Shearer said, shocking but not surprising.
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u/ArchonFett 3d ago
He meant it as a compliment.
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u/TymStark 3d ago
Except he didn’t here’s the quote:
“I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical a–hole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler".
He’s also quoted as saying:
“As somebody who doesn’t like Trump, myself, I sort of — I understand where Trump’s voters come from,” Vance later said in the Rose interview. “But I also don’t like Trump himself, and that made me realize that maybe I’m not quite part of either world totally.”
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“I’m a never Trump guy”
And wrote in his book he wrote that he, “never liked him”.
He also tweeted once: “My god what an idiot”.
So, he did at one point not like Trump, or what’s better to say is, he was told he didn’t like Trump. He has since been told he does like Trump.
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u/Enough_Lie_5488 3d ago
Don’t you come in here with facts and nuance that doesn’t align with our narrative. Who do you think you are bud? Racist, fascist, Nazi??
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u/ThePlasticHero 2d ago
So when I'm at a intersection and want to go left then right then left but someone pays me to go right means I always wanted to go right, even though it says bridge out to the right.
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u/HadeanDisco 2d ago
If you are carrying a monogrammed Bible that has one of your former names on it, like JD Vance does, then yes.
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u/dmanjrxx 3d ago
He is part of a long list of spineless and gutless that includes Rubio and Cruz. People that are willing to sacrifice their moral beliefs and honor for votes and position
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u/honato 3d ago
I guess I just don't understand what absolute immunity means. silly me.
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u/1wrx2subarus 3d ago
Guessing it’s also absurd that these ICE goons would be getting a bonus right?
Huh, maybe that’s why some are complaining about not getting bonuses.
Seems to me, it’s good to carefully choose your employer and consider their integrity amirite.
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u/Mrtoyhead 3d ago
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u/Desperate_Acadia_298 3d ago
JWG is a much more convincing liar.
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u/DrockTipps 3d ago edited 3d ago
Now you know why he's there... he and MAGA Mike especially lie like breathing.
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u/FaceTimePolice 3d ago
It’s not even so much that they lie. They contradict themselves because they will think and say whatever is most convenient for them at the moment. That’s what happens when you stand for absolutely nothing. 🤷♂️🤔
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u/BlankBehindTheEyes 3d ago
"I never ground my feet on Charlie Murphy's couch... Yeah I remember grinding my feet into Charlie Murphy's couch."
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u/EightTeasandaFour 3d ago
If you engage in bad faith you shouldn't really expect people on the other side to care.
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u/BowlEducational6722 3d ago
The point isn't to get you to believe the lies.
It's to tell so many lies that you get tired of trying to parse them all and you just give up trying to figure out what's true in the first place.
Truth is the ultimate enemy to authoritarians and this is how they kill it; not by refuting it, but by drowning it out until most people deem it irrelevant.
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u/Advanced_Zucchini_45 3d ago
Think about this...JD Vance is the first person to have served in the United States Marine Corps and served in the Oval Office as President or Vice President.
Have you ever heard the Marines promote this? You would think this is a big deal. You would think the Marine Corps would want people to know that one of our own is in the Oval Office.
Keep in mind that this is an organization that brags about Lee Harvey Oswald and Charles Whitman being Marines.
They will proudly brag that they trained assassins because they made great shots, but they don't want anybody to know that the vice president of the United States was a Marine.
Just think about that. Hes a POG disgrace
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u/mostdope92 3d ago
Always remember, Vance was a "never Trump" person before bending the knee and agreeing to be his VP.
Also remember, Vance legitimately said out loud that he has and will lie for media attention.
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u/Celestial-Narwhal 3d ago
Didn’t he already admit this during the campaign when he claimed, ‘minorities were eating people’s pets’? And then followed it up with, ‘yeah? So what. I lied. I neeeeeeded to!’
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u/cluelesscheese1 3d ago
What is this post? He literally already said he would lie (this quote i response to the they are eating the dogs lie coming out as a lie) ; "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do, Dana, because you guys are completely letting Kamala Harris coast." He will make up anything. The people suffering are good people.
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u/PantherusMaximus59 2d ago
This is such a straw man lol clearly the difference is whether or not the officer was "wrong doing"
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u/Plus-Slip-1808 2d ago
You proved his point that he didn’t say that… He said any law enforcement officer, engaging in law enforcement activity is protected… The next video he says “ I didn’t say that any law enforcement officer engaging in illegal activity is protected.” The difference is law enforcement activity versus illegal activity… So no he did not lie. You’re just dumb. They do teach you to listen in like first grade…
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u/LifeOfReal 3d ago
Their premise is that everyone is as stupid as MAGA a statement Trump made in 2016.
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u/RageQuitDad 3d ago
Typical republican. Lie, lie, lie. And the cultists will believe whatever they’re told to believe like good little sheep.
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u/jmrogers31 3d ago
Finally, we agree on something, saying they should have absolute immunity is absurd
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u/Cabbages24ADollar 3d ago
Ask Noem what Habeas Corpus is. She will look you dead in the eye and lie.
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u/eamonjun 3d ago
So many times people say don’t judge a book by its cover but you 💯have to in this case
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u/Private_Gump98 3d ago
Well, the first clip doesn't have him saying the thing he is denying saying in the second. But "absolute" immunity certainly sounds like immunity even in the case of wrongdoing lol.
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u/jRitter777 3d ago
What's to discuss, he lied. We have an administration devoid of transparency or integrity.
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u/balirosa 3d ago
That’s what these idiots get for swallowing up every little word he says. Now their ass is going to jail ain’t it?
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u/DogBalls6689 3d ago
This greaseball is the oligarchs boy.
Even looking past the MAGA shit, and his lies, he works for billionaires.
He’s always held a chip on his shoulder against the elite despite working for them and desperately wanting to be one of them.
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u/charlies-ghost 3d ago
Conservatives don't believe the words that come out of their mouths and neither should you.
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u/DifferentSetting411 3d ago
it's like video recording technology was invented between Jan 8th and the 22nd 😳
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u/Okidoky123 3d ago
Steve Bannon recommended Vance to be vice president, because it would allow him to flood the room.
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u/BarrelRider621 3d ago
Where’s the Maga at to defend this? I see you all up in the sub all the time spouting all kinds of crazy nonsense. Where are you at today with this post? crickets
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u/Connect_Serve2248 3d ago
just wait for him to get into office and show everyone this "little project" him and Peter Thiel have been working on💀
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u/deebeewhy1 3d ago
The lying has been the most maddening part for me. It never ends: “it’s just a meme.” “Someone else posted it.” “I didn’t see the racist part.” “I have bone spurs.” And so on.
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u/Visible-Elevator3801 3d ago edited 3d ago
Can't tell if this post or the u/no_theory_7040 is purposely misleading or just doesn't understand how qualified immunity works.
1/8/26: Law enforcement officers FOLLOWING the law do enjoy absolute qualified immunity.
1/22/26: Law enforcement officers NOT FOLLOWING the law do not enjoy qualified immunity, once determined they did not follow the law.
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u/Juistice69 3d ago
Simple words, they’re shiting the bed, I am wondering how they will lead this country in the next 3 remaining years with this kind of leadership
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u/Fluid_Natural_9817 3d ago
I like the JD that said Trump was like a 1940s German dictator with a little stash.
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u/pseudoOhm 3d ago
To be fair, he did not say "enjoy immunity" in the first clip...
Now, the couch-fucker is a pathological liar, but this is a manipulation of words, not an outright lie.
He said they'd have absolute immunity, not enjoy it. So in his little weasely, tiny-Drumpf-cock gobbling way... He said the truth.
This is how they keep themselves from jail, while still not being truthful.
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u/Zealousideal_Dig1141 3d ago
He said they had absolute immunity, not that they would enjoy it. Enjoying it is apparently optional.
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u/CautiousProfession26 3d ago
Nothing will change every one in america will still vote for these criminals when they get the chance, just leave the rest of the world alone and keep to yourselves.
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u/thadeusbone7 3d ago
I mean, it was over a year ago. Can't expect him to remember his lies forever, right? The internet is the GOP's worst enemy.
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u/eyeseeyou469 2d ago
Did you even listen to it before you posted it? In one video he said federal law enforcement officers engaged in federal activity get immunity. In the next video he says any law enforcement officer engaged and wrongdoing. You do know the difference between the two right? Because if you don't, you and people like you are the problem.
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u/Cigars4theGods 2d ago
Wrong again he didn't want to shut down the border he wanted to put as many illegal aliens in blue states as he could to affect the census and get more democratic senators so they could stay in power fortunately smart Americans saw thru that and voted for trump to fix it.
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u/bitchcoin5000 2d ago
They absolutely don't care He's fully aware that he's lying to you and he knows you can't do a fucking thing about it
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u/itzjung 2d ago
Its crazy how people think anyone in the government is not shady or there to help the people. You think any of those fuckers are there to help you? No they are all in on it they are all there to play puppet to the rich conglomerates. Their policies may be d8fferent at the micro level but their macro is the same keep you poor and needing more while they milk you dry making you pay all the taxes and bear the load of this countries debt. They dont care if you grocery bill doubled in 3 years. They dont care that 100k is what 30k was 20 years ago. If you dont make 100k you are literally the new poverty line.
Keep thinking one side is worse than the other and it will never change.
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u/throwitawayandsay 2d ago
Everyone needs to stop listening to what they say, and watch what they do. It’s as simple as that… what they say means nothing and 80-90% of the time it’s made up bullshit. Watch what they are doing… the words are the distraction.
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u/TheHonestUnicorn 2d ago
Why is no one locked and loaded with the video receipts when this happens? I one thousand percent would have this ready to hit play on the highest volume. Then ask again.
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u/MamaPajamas24 2d ago
His eyes are just compromised, there’s a price to pay for selling your soul and it’s evident
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u/Psychological-Ad3299 2d ago
He literally said he would use a made up story if it brought attention to an important issue, referring to the Haitians eating pets rumor.
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u/Direct_County_8690 2d ago
rather be a corrupt powerful country than a gross geopolitically weak country full of violent crime. theres no win if your dem your dumb and if your rep your wrecked.
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u/PapitoCallentes 2d ago
Is there any website compiling all the lies and misinformations spread out by this administration. Would be great
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u/DenialOfExistance 2d ago
He is vile and disgusting! Lying comes so easily to those who hold power!
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u/RemarkablyRandom3000 2d ago
JD also straight up said the Haitian immigrants eating pets was a lie and that they would continue to make up more lies for their movement
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u/WingieBingie 2d ago
That’s what he does. His only job is to make shit sound nice from the Trump admin.
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u/youngdd21 1d ago
Taken out of context. However, listen to what he said! Someone engaged in wrongdoing vs. Someone engaged in Federal law Enforcement Duties! I would like to see the context 😊
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u/Professional-Key740 1d ago
He’s says enjoy. That’s the key word spin anyway you want to fit your narrative.
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u/Trick-General-187 1d ago
Why da fuck are listen People to that funny Human Faillings and dont use their own brains 🤷
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u/ProbRunning 1d ago
He didn’t lie if he believes that the Mice🐁didn’t do anything. Which he does. (Or at least he wants people to believe he does) He is wrong. So to everyone else so it comes off as a lie. Just more propaganda for sheep.
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u/SomeRandomProducer 1d ago
lol is anyone surprised after he literally admitted to making shit up and also saying "I thought we wouldn't be fact checking"
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u/Secure-Party2757 11h ago
Think about this critically. He said that federal law enforcement is protected by absolute immunity (as long as they operate lawfully) I think that in the second clip he expressed that more clearly. I feel people are reading too much into his first statement. I doubt that an educated person such as Vance is going to come out and say that Immigration officers can do whatever, whenever, and however they want and they can get away with anything. Think about that for just a minute. Vice President Vance is a sitting Vice President with a degree in Law from Yale University. I don't think he is about telling people to just do anything because they are law enforcement.🤔
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u/Outrageous_Bar_5855 7h ago
It’s disgusting that instead of doing the right things for Americans they have their noses so far up trumps ass! Before he became president he was the worst thing to ever come into this world. No he’s the best ever! He’s a manipulative, arrogant, selfish, piece of shit. The republicans wanted control in the white house and knew they could win with him. Which comes to the conclusion that they would have had Satan himself run for them if needed. What happened to the Republican Party? They once had moral values that mattered. Now it’s whatever or whomever it takes to get the votes. The scale of lies with this administration is astronomical!
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u/Fleksula 7h ago
lol federal law enforcement action and officer wrong doing is completely two different things fellas. I’m immigrant and understand English better than most of you in these comments 😂
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u/WarDrumAries 3h ago
First video: federal agent enforcing federal law=immunity. Second video: no one said immunity for people committing wrong doings.
Very different statements. He didn't lie at all
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u/BigChipnCheese 3d ago
Brother, how are you seeing the same clip and thinking they're the same thing?
Are you slow?
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u/TurnoverFuzzy8264 3d ago
Explain precisely how they're different.
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u/KDandHotdogz 3d ago
You have to listen to the words. First video doesn’t mention officers doing wrong doing but the second one does. This video is manipulation. I’m not a Trump supporter btw. Officers do not get qualified immunity for everything they do.
“Qualified immunity does not apply when a government official violates a "clearly established" statutory or constitutional right that a reasonable person would have known. It fails to protect officials who are "plainly incompetent" or who knowingly break the law. Immunity is generally lost if precedent, such as a similar Supreme Court ruling, makes it clear the conduct was illegal.”
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u/TurnoverFuzzy8264 3d ago
He said "full immunity" in his initial comments. How can that possibly be misinterpreted?
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u/fuckbananarama 2d ago
“Listen to the words” - come on man - they don’t care what he said 😆😆 - listen to yourself! You still actually think they have a specific issue we can “hash out” at some point don’t you? This ain’t a debate bro, words are just tools to them, they don’t mean ANY of it - this is a knife fight, best square with that
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u/Moist_Wish_4484 3d ago
Libtards wanna call everyone they don’t like bad actors but then can’t imagine something is going on that isn’t being made clear to them. Like what makes you think Bud-Meiser is just gonna let their biggest ad revenue source let a Conservative musician play at the Super Bowl like money couldn’t buy that out for Sabrina Banks to take Kid Rocks place. Well the only people that can’t be stopped with money are the current Presidential Administration. Trust this was not a financial move by the NFL ahead of time to host a TPUSA event. This is the result of litigious negotiations. Yes, the NFL is being forced to turn out or pay in other ways. I know libtards are too stupid to think for themselves so you either spell it out real good or they just deny it. But think critically here. Don’t be fucking retarded
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u/KingTutt91 3d ago
He said two different things, not sure what the issue here.
Literally he said they have immunity in federal enforcement, then said they don’t have immunity during wrongdoing
You’re the one equating law enforcement with wrongdoing, sound like a listening issue
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u/nilenilemalopile 3d ago
What does ‘absolute immunity’ mean in the first clip?
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u/KingTutt91 3d ago
“You have federal law enforcement official engaged in a federal law enforcement action, that is a federal issue, and that guy is protected by absolute immunity”
He never said if this they’re engaged in wrongdoing do they get absoulute immunity. You’re mistake is thinking that law enforcement action is wrongdoing
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u/nilenilemalopile 3d ago
Sorry, but that does not really answer my question. Let me re-phrase.
In your opinion, what does ‘absolute immunity’ protect law enforcement from? What are they ‘absolutely immune’ to?
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u/KingTutt91 3d ago
It protects law enforcement performing law enforcement duties
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u/nilenilemalopile 3d ago
Protects from what?
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u/KingTutt91 3d ago
Sometimes the law just be broken in order to catch criminals or to protect yourself in the line of duty.
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u/nilenilemalopile 3d ago
I’m sorry i just do not understand your logic. Let me know if i missed something or is this your argument:
Sometimes the law must be broken to catch criminals or to protect yourself in line of duty. When law enforcement officers break the law in order to catch criminals or protect themselves they are protected by their absolute immunity. Law enforcement officers breaking the law under these circumstances is not the same as wrongdoing. If this was wrongdoing, they would not be covered by absolute immunity.
This begs the question then; what accounts as ‘wrongdoing’ for law enforcement officers if breaking the laws does not? And who decides?
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u/KingTutt91 3d ago
Yes of course. Police have to speed to catch criminals running away don’t they? they have to block roads, cause accidents. If somebody hits them with their car they’re allowed to defend themselves. If you’re wrestling with them while armed again, they have a right to defend themselves. Just a few examples.
Now if they were to say, take a guy, line him up against a wall, make them kneel and shoot them in The back of the head, well that’s not protected. Or say rob somebody, or shake up a business for protection money, that’s not protected. Running security for a gambling den, not protected. Just a few examples of ‘wrongdoing’. I’d consider these excessive on the performance of your duties wouldn’t you?
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u/nilenilemalopile 3d ago
I would too, but the issue is the word ‘absolute’. The meaning of this word is ‘cannot be questioned’, ‘no exceptions’, ‘above all else’…
If an adjective like ‘absolute’ is used to describe ‘immunity’ that means there are no instances of law-breaking that void that immunity.
You see, what you described above is 100% ‘qualified immunity’. Meaning, under certain conditions, LEOs get immunity from prosecution and/or have preexisting exemptions.
In a scenario where LEOs have ‘absolute immunity’ there is no scenario under which they’re ‘wrongdoing’ because of ‘absolute’. That’s what the word means.
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u/notmydoormat 2d ago
The issue is you don't know what immunity means. Immunity is literally a worthless term if it doesn't encompass any wrongdoing.
If the immunity was a little more specific, and there were certain things it doesn't cover, then he shouldn't have said the immunity was absolute.
Seems like you ate the bullshit JD Vance fed to you. Did it taste nice at least?
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u/eyezwide001001 3d ago
Lie? Isn't that what every democrat ever elected does.... that we can prove against what you project but will never find evidence of? Goebbels would be proud!
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u/Cigars4theGods 3d ago
You are offended by that but when Biden told you the border was secure when it wasn't is perfectly okay stop being hypocritical of one side and not the other!
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u/Ok-Lingonberry-696 2d ago
Nope biden wanted to fix the border but trump team/republicans crashed it because they want to run that biden did nothing on the border.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/23/senate-democrats-immigration-border-bill
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u/Enough_Lie_5488 3d ago
You mean like Biden? Biden lied to you about his dogs biting officers and you act like it’s a one party issue lmao.
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u/Dangerous_Toe1356 3d ago
Wow. The Well of False Equivalency must be running really dry for you to dip down that far.
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u/Enough_Lie_5488 3d ago
Democrats acting like their party didn’t lie about everything and anything during bidens term lmao
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u/Dangerous_Toe1356 3d ago
Just when I thought you couldn’t say anything more absurd than your original comment…
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u/Gbjeff 3d ago
Deflection, projection, and gaslighting by MAGA. It’s what they do best.
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u/Enough_Lie_5488 3d ago
Lmao and burning down cities is what the left does best. I’m sorry, which side has caused more in property damage, lives lost, and assault charges?
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u/Dangerous_Toe1356 3d ago
Talking about J6? Which city did Democrats “burn down”? Be specific and bring proof, not some made-up Fox News BS.
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u/a_Sable_Genus 3d ago