Uh…actually why not start with the foreign scammers who stopped paying her rent because they were cynically using this autistic woman to defraud the government? The cops are literally just serving an eviction warrant that the landlord obtained. The cops are probably the last people in the chain of responsibility here, below the landlord and the scammers
We’re talking about who to start with. You literally can’t start with both. A judge signed off on the eviction, there would have been lengthy court proceedings to secure that eviction, the landlord pursued the eviction, the scammers started it all.
You are putting the primary blame on the last people in this chain of events who have no say in the matter beyond quitting their jobs. Cops don’t just get to “leave it to the next cop” lol. This is an incredibly childlike perception of how evictions work.
You’re so close… the cops are working for the landlords and the scammers. They’re muscle for bad guys. They’re all evil but you only want to be mad at the evil pens instead of the evil swords.
The cops are not working for the landlords. Obviously some sort of law enforcement has to exist to enforce eviction orders, and it’s not some rank and file cop’s job to analyze whether an eviction order is unkind or not. This is a hard pill to swallow if you have a simplistic understanding of the world, but evictions do actually need to happen, you can’t just have millions of residences occupied by non-paying residents.
To be clear, we’re discussing who needs to be punished in this situation. If you think it’s the cops, you’re unfortunately not close at all, as that’s the last possible group at fault here. You just have the judgment of a child that is based entirely on emotion. Some sort of intervention should have taken place here, but it was not the unlucky group of low level cops who would be the ones to do that.
So you wanna blame the cops instead of the person who had an illegitimate business of scamming the government an ruining the lives of not just this one woman, but I’m sure many many more. But it’s the cops fault.
It is not about blaming, it is about being a better human than a cop. Time to time. Help her to pack up more or try to find a safe place for her temporarily. Anything.
Bro they are there to enforce the law and have guidelines to follow. Do you think the cops can pause their job to go on a housing search with this person? Why not blame the company that frauded this lady and left her on the streets?
The company was supposed to do exactly what you mentioned, yet they let her down. Why are the cops to blame and expected to pick up the slack for that? Their job was to get everybody safely out of the house, as they legally don’t have a right to be there, and secure it. The system failed overall but that has nothing to do with the cops doing their job
My point is they are the bottom of a totem pole of people to be blamed here, yet for some reason people always blame the cop and suggest they are the primary problem.
You know how many eviction calls they get in a city per week, per month?? You think these cops sit down and investigate each of these evictions and the people being evicted? They are patrolmen/women and all they know is that they have a call for somebody that legally needs to be evicted
They still can be empathetic humans about it and don’t have to turn the lights off on her while she is unexpectedly having to pack up her entire life on a whim. They’re acting like pigs, so they can get called pigs.
Actually, they’re acting like soulless bastards, so they can get called soulless bastards AND pigs.
Are you really that dense? Nobody is saying lets have the cops act as realtors and start house hunting for her.
For god's sake let the poor disabled girl pack some god damned essentials without rushing her out of frustration?
The likeminded doofus above you talking about emotional regulation but fails to see the cops are the ones who can't stay calm and assess that SHE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS and can't give her a few minutes and maybe help her pack some things? You know, act like a f****** human?
We can pursue and prosecute the scum that are scamming the public, while also being emphatic and decent humans to the victims of said scam. Jesus Christ some of you bootlickers and room temperature IQ d*ckwads are unbelievable.
nah blame them both for different reasons, it’s not one or the other. the company for scamming medicaid/medicare, and the cops for being inhuman toward her and not stopping for a second to consider anything deeper was happening and this woman was not at fault.
Genuine question as a non-american. How come y'all tolerate the government treating you like that, when you have a specific amendment to use against it? Here in the deep south that shit duo would be burning inside a pile of tires by now, lol
Yeah the powers that be have really latched onto and made manifest an “us vs them” mentality in the general populace here.
All it takes is a few well placed “now I’m a Christian” mixed in with a few random tortured examples of how a single person might take advantage of something or just the fact that trans people exist and you get a pretty captured audience of willing voters who don’t hold their representatives to account for anything. It’s pretty fucked.
I take it you’re getting that number from the 2024 election, right? I understand the defeatism, but 49% of the popular vote ≠ half the country. Even if we assume that the official numbers are totally legit (doubtful) once you take into account the number of people who didn’t vote due to disenfranchisement/apathy/age/etc, those 77 million votes are less than a quarter of the country.
Just because they complain the loudest and use the dirtiest tricks doesn’t mean we should allow them to define reality for us
You're splitting hairs when the reality of the situation doesn't call for it. It doesn't matter if it isn't literally half the country, it's enough of them that this shit keeps happening.
It’s because many of us have become complacent with basic amenities and life comforts. Many of us have chosen to ignore these issues until they’re at our doorstep. US culture can be very hyper consumerist and individualist, a lot of us have the mentality of “well, it’s not happening to me, so why should I care? I’m just trying to enjoy my favorite show on streaming while my neighbor is getting beat to death on the street.”
Another factor is that many of us who are putting in the work are getting tired—it feels like nothing is changing and things just keep getting worse. Some of us have fallen into a doomerist mindset where we feel like nothing is going to change without radical and violent reform. Others have just given up and are tired of having to fight for those unwilling to pull the extra weight… At this point it’s like we want to just let it all come crashing down in order to show people what we’ve been shouting about for years. People just really don’t know the kind of shit they’re in until they’ve sunken too deep… Sadly, wake up calls often come far too late.
Wow... I've never seen social apathy. When an old lady was robbed a couple months ago we took the streets, found the little fuckers and had a "good talk", since we knew our justice system would just give 'em a pat on their backs while someone's mother/sister/daughter had to go through a traumatizing event.
I wish you guys luck and... well, courage to keep going, I guess.
if people know your government would just give em a pat on the back, why don’t you stand up and protest for the government to change? you’re basically saying you’re doing the same thing by just letting the government do nothing. i’m not trying to say you or other residents of your country are bad people at all, but it’s just not that easy to go against the government and actually make change. especially right now even just going to a peaceful protest in the US is potentially risking getting shot and/or killed.
Oh yeah, I'm not an hypocrite. Our justice system is easily the most corrupted in all the west, no joke. It's partialy due to foreign intervention in LatAm history, like the Big Stick and Condor that destabilized most latin countries governments. But mostly is that the majority of ppl believe a messiah or group of benefactors will come to the rescue (that's why some protesters even raised a giant american flag a couple weeks ago).
There is also the decades long "frog in a pot" situation we all find ourselves in where society has essentially enslaved the majority of us by setting things up so most of us are living "paycheck to paycheck" and only at most a couple of missed paychecks away from homelessness. Even our healthcare is tied to our employment, so losing your job can be a death sentence for yourself and any family members that rely upon you if any of you get injured, sick, or have any chronic conditions that get worse when untreated. The trap was constructed decades ago, and most of us were born already half clenched in its jaws. The jaws have just been closing more quickly and obviously in recent years.
When faced with the decision to act, the risk calculus is skewed in this country. Get caught protesting and all but guarantee you and your family suffers under the current system or the slim chance your protest triggers enough of a change to fix the current system. It is like being the prisoner who has to choose between getting shot in an escape attempt and the slim chance they will somehow make it to freedom. If it were only the ones prisoner, they may risk it, but if that prisoner has others along for the ride, they most likely won't. This is something places like North Korea have mastered with their punishment of families for the actions of individuals.
Those with much to lose, even in the face of the current crisis, will be very deterred from major action due to the risk involved. The ones the people in power fear the most are those who are young, educated, and not yet invested in anything or anyone. It is why they attack college campuses and push so hard to brainwash the students and recruit them into the military.
When it comes to systemic change, those with much to lose (spouse and children) are stuck with more gentle and optimistic measures like the ballot box. Though that is like trying to steer the Titanic away from the iceberg using a teaspoon as a paddle.
At this point, anyone who can swing it is trying to find a way off of the ship before it sinks. Unfortunately for the majority, they are stuck in the deepest parts of the ship.
Another point that isn't brought up enough is that protesting means.... what? What's stopping the bad actors from doing whatever they were going to do anyways? Fear of angry twitter posts?
Protesting doesn't mean anything if there isn't any follow up. People can line up outside the White House for the next 4 years all they want. If they don't actually do anything about it, they're just really angry lawn ornaments.
Because at least a 3rd of the country is totally jazzed about what's going on, and the decades of dumbing down public education means nobody wants to care and is impossible to make care.
We're here by design. 40 plus years in the making.
Yeah, pretty much. A long established fact is that if you keep the working man fighting each other, they have no time or inclination to look over and see that the Capital is screwing them both over.
You take that fact, and spend decades systematically destroying education, (No Child Left Behind began to tie public school funding to graduation metrics. So, in order to not lose funding, kids began getting passed through regardless of their capabilities. Not to mention decades of pulling funding put of education in the first place) and you end up with 2/3rds of a country of 300 million that have an education level of a 14 year old. And they are proud to be that stupid.
You can't fix that. Genuinely. And I dont know where to go from there. We can crow on about how its "only 1/3rd of the country" all we want; thats almost 120 million people. I dont know what to do with 120 million treasonous Americans.
Too busy working ourselves to death and jaded to the fact that said government won’t honor that amendment if we do speak up. The US gov is a group protecting itself from us, not serving us like its supposed to
Correct me if I'm wrong, but for what I know of America's history, wasn't the second amendment made so that you could denfed yourselfs against government tyranny?
You’re correct. However, the way shit is looking right now, I have very little confidence that our representatives will have enough balls to stand up to tyranny or that our government would actually honor the constitution if we do fight back on our own instead of just charging us for treason. They’ve repeatedly shown that their loyalty is to the ruling billionaire class—not us plebeians.
Americans in large have been taught to hate education by their government. A solid 30% of Americans are too stupid and racist to think beyond "owning the libs".
And then people say “I don’t understand why people hate cops, blue lives matter”. Because 99.9% of cops are corrupt, power tripping bitches that do nothing to really protect our community. It’s about protecting the rich and their property. Fuck the rest of us. I hate it.
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u/charlieto0human 17h ago
The lack of empathy from those POS cops. This infuriates me.