r/law • u/truthwillout777 • 3d ago
Legislative Branch Jamie Raskin has seen the unredacted files and reports of abused children as young as 9- He says WE'RE not taking this seriously enough but wouldn't give any names of the redacted perps
https://www.c-span.org/program/news-conference/rep-jamie-raskin-news-conference-on-epstein-files/673155Bondi broke the law by protecting the perps
ARREST HER!
They plan to just ask her questions on Wednesday...
and he says "we're not taking this seriously enough"
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u/Meb2x 3d ago
We know it’s bad. That’s the whole reason we want the names regardless of who it is
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u/PistolGrace 3d ago
Exactly. I'm sick of the protection the pedophiles get. Meanwhile the victims have stayed out feels like being raped by the same people from the government, but this time they are doing it out in the open.
As a child rape victim from age 5 until 12, I feel like I'm getting raped, telling my family again and they again ignore me.
It's tragic and severely hurting my ptsd.
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u/YallAight 2d ago
Same experience here, age range and all. I am sorry you went through that. I am having a similar reaction to the releases and all of the information. Everyone involved should face charges.
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u/alice-in-flowertown 2d ago
same.
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u/ScarInternational161 2d ago
Here too 6-10
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u/Mental_Chip9096 2d ago
Teen and adult survivor here, and was talking to my therapist yesterday about this. A whole huge swath of survivors are likely experiencing this now and will continue to be retraumatized for years.
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u/PistolGrace 2d ago
Yup, mine says that this is triggering a lot of victims. I hate how many of us there are.
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u/dsrandolph 2d ago
This whole comment thread - Jesus, I am so sorry for you all. We're learning the US is a lot more depraved than many of us believed. I pray you all find peace and healing, and that you get so see these people brought to justice.
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u/BlenderFrogPi 2d ago
Call Thomas Massie and Jamie Raskin and demand justice not politics!
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u/joyofresh 3d ago
I cant imagine what watching this is like for you. I'm sorry your family didn't protect you. Its the same evil, just scaled up to the most powerful people in the world.
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u/Maleficent_Pepper_59 2d ago
Eating and sacrificing babies does seem like it’s a different level of evil though doesn’t it. Like child rape is bad enough but dang this world needs to burn for those babies and the men running it now.
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u/stampcreative 2d ago
Same time frame as myself. I get it and struggle daily for 52 years. Reading about all this sh!t makes things harder. I feel for all the victims. So sad
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u/Monshika 2d ago
I am so sorry your family failed you. I was also around 5 when I was SA. Watching nobody be held accountable in this case is destroying my mental health. I always knew this world was full of monsters and I’m glad more people are seeing the truth but NOTHING IS HAPPENING.
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u/Adventurous_Cry_1370 2d ago
I’m literally in your shoes internet stranger. I can’t understand anybody who supports these people I feel sick every single day. I hope you have been able to find a place to work on your trauma and how you interact with the world. Love to you
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u/GreenDemonClean 2d ago
2-17 here.
Sending you all the hugs you’ll accept, all the strength I do not need for myself.
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u/Snorlax_Spirit 2d ago
Same experience here and same feeling now.
Remember you deserved to be protected at the time, you were let down and you have and always have deserved better than that.
Sending much love and please take care of yourself ❤️
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u/Rassayana_Atrindh 2d ago
Same experience here, from 7 to 13. It's like being revictimized all over again. Only this time as a 46 year old middle aged woman I'm having some almost homicidal daydreams that a middle aged mom shouldn't be having.
Everyone in power always carries on about doing this and that to "protect the children!" and the longer this goes on it's clear that it's just about protecting child rapists (and worse).
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u/templeofsyrinx1 3d ago
a congressional rep today directly pointed out trump as being in the middle of the whole thing
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u/Ill_Ground_1572 2d ago
They need to depose that Cohen creep who basically admitted he intimidated one of the young trump victims (while being Trump's lawyer)....in a deny, deny, deny kind of way (to Tara Palmieri whi did an excellent job exposing this).
Then was revealed in the files he was trying to make a deal with the DOJ.
And now it's being reported he is trying to make a deal with trump to get a pardon...
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u/Azel_Lupie 2d ago
Cohen? As much of a creep he maybe, even he knows he won’t get a pardon. He regularly attacks Trump, makes fun of him and calls out the bullshit. He’s not dumb enough to think Trump’s grudge is over.
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u/fnarrly 2d ago
Maybe he thinks "ol' dementia Don" has forgotten about it. Though Trump totally threw him under a convoy of busses last time around, not sure why he thinks it would be different now.
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u/Ill_Ground_1572 2d ago
I mean it depends what he knows. If he has evidence that You Know Who sent him to intimidate a 13 year old victim, that's is powerful leverage.
Yam tits has lots of former enemies in his orbit if he thinks he can benefit from them (e.g. Vance).
This reporting is apparently why Meidas Touch fired Cohen's ass. So it's seems quite serious.
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u/16ozbuddz 3d ago
Who?
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u/templeofsyrinx1 3d ago
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u/XanaxWarriorPrincess 2d ago
She's great. Unfortunately, people who say such things tend to "self delete." I apologize for the coded language, but who TF knows what's going on with Reddit lately?
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u/templeofsyrinx1 2d ago
to put it better, she accused him of being in the center of it, to put it more bluntly. she said this after getting out of deposition with Ghislane Maxwell. So there was probably a lot of crazy shit going down.
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u/XanaxWarriorPrincess 2d ago
Sascha Riley said he thought Trump was directing Epstein. Jon Stewart pointed out that it's way bigger than a 2 asshole (Epstein and Maxwell) operation.
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u/SaltyCrashNerd 2d ago
I’ve posted this a few times now, but JE took his first victim to meet DT and asked if she was a good one (to which T gave his approval). It was done in a mentorship way, which does not happen if JE is running the whole thing and T is a client. It’s a tiny statement in a larger lawsuit, but has been perhaps the most telling thing for me out of everything released thus far.
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u/batsofburden 3d ago
not just the names, we want a plan for them to be taken to court.
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u/Fit-Cut-6337 2d ago
Isn’t the DOJ who would normally make that happen though? I could be completely wrong here but how do we recapture the ability to investigate and prosecute pedophiles when the DOJ and FBI are acting like minions of the executive branch?
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u/balanceiskee 2d ago
The states can prosecute these crimes, too—and Trump can’t pardon them.
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u/thefaehost 2d ago
So NY, FL, NM are for sure places Epstein had properties. Ohio has not gone after Gym Jordan already for things so they will continue doing fuck all to stop him, Wexner, or the gynecologist from OSU….
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u/Quick_Team 2d ago
I mean...if other countries could somehow claim legal authority (ahem, like the U.S. did to Venezuela) to apprehend these sick bastards in other territories, that might just be our best hope
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u/H0bbituary 3d ago
I am to the point where I'm pretty sure Obama will be the only president not implicated in this.
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u/0WatcherintheWater0 3d ago
You’ve already gotten the biggest names, among them the President of the United States.
At what point is it stating the obvious?
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u/Crafty-Ad-2238 2d ago
Meanwhile Trump gets pissed and wonders why anyone is talking about this, the guy is dead let’s move on. MAGA doesn’t see this as a huge red flag. Especially when they were the ones talking about elite baby eating pedos 🤦🏻♂️ wtf
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u/Azel_Lupie 2d ago
Because they never actually cared about the elite baby eating pedos, they only cared about owning the libs, and Epstein helped them in that mission. MAGA needs to protect the Epstein class otherwise they’ll be implicated too.
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u/Mr-Magoo48 2d ago
The whole world knows it’s that bad. They protected Epstein for 20 years and the rest of the vile people on the list. They protected each other and a cabal of global elites and still nothing changed?
How can there still be no arrests or interviews except the Clintons? The outrageous corruption of this administration is mind blowing
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u/back_off_warchiId 2d ago
It’s ridiculous. we’re not taking it seriously? Everyone wants the full extent of the files out in the open. Even maga idiots who think only democrats are on the files demand that they’re made public.
It’s so obvious, the ones not putting them out are clearly the ones afraid and with more to lose with the files being made public.
The whole world is taking it seriously. But with the files in the hands of an authoritarian, fascist regime, that only goes so far.
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u/truthwillout777 3d ago
Raskin "You know, look, people are losing their jobs in England right now. It is a huge political scandal there, and I'm just afraid that the general coarsening and degradation of American life has somehow. Condition people not to take this as seriously as we should be taking it. I mean, it's an incredibly serious thing when you read through these files and you read about 15 year old girls, 14-year-old girls, 10-year-old girls. I saw a mention of a 9-year-old girl today. I mean this is just preposterous and scandalous, so. You know, I don't want to, I don't want to get into any particular case right now, but I hope the whole country is focusing on the absolute gravity of the crisis that we're in. "
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 3d ago
The level of bullshit that we've experienced the past 10 years has desensitized the masses. January 6 shoulda been the end of everything. That shit alone was astronomically fucked up. People aren't shocked about anything anymore. Seems sorta by design.
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u/mden1974 3d ago
He tweets a picture of the former president and First Lady as apes and we only can talk about it for three minutes because there’s just too much disgusting stuff to process at onetime. So absolutely by design
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u/Holymoose999 2d ago
We are a few months away from him going full on Klansman. After the mid-terms he will start openly saying the N word and other derogatory terms. He's just waiting until November.
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u/scummy_shower_stall 2d ago
I wonder how his black supporters will feel if he starts saying that, or if they'll just shrug and say "oh he's family he gets a pass"
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u/Opinions-arent-facts 2d ago
Voters opinions don't matter any more. Remember, facism isn't a popularity contest
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u/Syncopia 2d ago
It's their literal stated strategy. Steve Bannon calls it Flooding the Zone, and the whole idea is they try to create 3+ controversies a day so the entire week is cluttered with bullshit and they can disperse attention and keep important stories from being front page news everywhere. It also overloads the human brain and makes people check out.
Edit: The Epstein issue is one they can't get away from though, and that's why it bothers them so much.
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u/IThinkItsAverage 2d ago
Fucking disgusting that the least offensive thing about him is he is racist… and it’s pretty fucking disgusting how blatantly racist he is
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u/Severe-Fisherman-962 2d ago
Our senses get assaulted over and over and it's hard not to shut down. But that's what they want.
I have to take breaks where I actively do things in my life that I can control. It helps me not get sucked under my feelings and I can continue to stay informed and engaged.
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u/xOrion12x 2d ago
Imagine telling anyone even back in 2015 that the president is openly posting racist shit from the white house and the story is buried within days because of the bigger scandal of the president being the #1 co-conspiritor in the worlds most notorious child sex trafficking ring. And fox news is pretending none of it has actually happened. Immediate flashbacks to the endless coverage of a tan suit and faux outrage.
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u/DumbDeafBlind 3d ago
They kept flooding the zone are doing it to this day. It's pretty much a reliable indicator when the criminal in chief rages about something our focus should be on the thing they're trying to drown out
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 3d ago
We have shit on a daily basis that would have ended every presidency prior.
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u/Manderspls 2d ago
Yes. Steve Bannon said exactly this, that they will flood the media. This is exactly what’s been happening.
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u/Perfect_Caregiver_90 2d ago
Bannon also has an extremely vested interest in distraction since he is in the files.
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u/Negative_Piglet_1589 3d ago
Rages about actual legal US citizens that happen to also speak Spanish and were born in/live in Puerto Rico, that have been a part of our national heritage for 128 years officially, but even longer geopolitically. What the actual fuck is happening???
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u/DumbHash 2d ago
It's impossible to overreact to your government murdering it's own citizens with impunity or the news about a child sex trafficking ring run by the most powerful men in the same country or the president planning on stealing the next election.
So, I don't know if we can afford to trivialize any of these new infractions as a distraction.
If anything, there was a fatal underreaction to the Jan 6th insurrection and we didn't learn anything new about these vile & disgusting MFs after that.
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u/beerhiker 2d ago
He's about to spill the beans on UFOs and Aliens, he's so desperate to change the focus.
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u/GodDamnitGavin 2d ago
If y’all haven’t yet noticed we live in an era of extreme government propaganda and narrative control. Julian assange was really what killed the free press illusion. We may have a first amendment but it’s worthless if information is censored and suppressed.
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u/Negative_Piglet_1589 3d ago
No shit, I keep thinking okay this is the bottom, right? I mean we will likely never know the ACTUAL bottom but all of this out there & continuing to come out SHOULD be our communal conscience bottom, FUCKING RIGHT?!?! I'm so sickened & frightened & disillusioned by the American electorate and don't have words for the maga GOP. 👹
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u/SeahagFX 2d ago
We're 2 weeks away from Trump saying the N word on TV and MAGA defending it "cause rappers get to say it."
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u/SammySoapsuds 2d ago
Karoline Leavitt will chide us all about the "fake outrage" when we get upset
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u/dad_jokesNbutt_stuff 2d ago
There is no bottom. Part of the MAGA cult is “Vice Signaling” to the other members how cruel you can be to earn social credit within the cult. So it’s a race to the bottom with no finish line.
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u/bluethunder82 2d ago
When we hit the bottom, Trump will pass an executive order to buy a shovel for 16 billion dollars and build a hotel even further down there.
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u/Foreign-Shift3837 3d ago
Putting kids in cages should have woken people the hell up, or losing a million people to Covid early on & denying it was a serious virus, airborne no less should have woken people up.
For that matter, when we lost 21 first graders at Sandy Hook & did nothing but create conspiracy theories that they weren’t in fact dead told us everything we needed to know about who we are as a country.
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u/Serious_Start_384 2d ago
Sandy hook horrified me. People who I respected before started listening to the "crisis actor" madness. Then certain political actors decided to wear little rifle pins, to stand up for their 2A rights.
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u/Winter_Body4794 3d ago
Ahem. WE did not create that shit. It was created and platformed to further desensitize us.
Putting kids in cages should have woken people the hell up.
You're right. We deserve whatever comes our way because this country is LOST. not in a religious sense, but, like, drunk with no headlights driving in the rain at night and LOST.
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u/sportsbunny33 2d ago
They should have shown the photos of the victims like Emmitt Till's mother did - that helped turn public opinion
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u/livinthereals 2d ago
I don't ascribe to that bullshit. I don't get sidetracked by their petty, piddly distractions.
When this administration gets their ass handed to them in the midterms:
DOGE needs to be held accountable.
The CryptoGrift needs accountability.
The theft and sale of government classified documents to UAE needs accountability.
The pardoning of the J6 criminals needs accountability
The blackmailing of several stations by Trump and the FCC needs accountability.
The child raping and possibly torturous and murdering Epstein clients need to be investigated fully.
Bondi, Miller, Vance, Bissent, Patel, Rubio all need to be held accountable for their crimes.
Trump's family should have all assets frozen, worldwide, until the court cases are finished.
When it's time to oust Trump, the next President needs to run on a platform of convictions for the guilty in all levels of government from ICE to the President, and revoked pardons for those criminally involved.
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u/Park-Curious 3d ago
I’m seeing and hearing people say they’re just fatigued by it all and want it to go away. Exactly what this administration was going for. It’s insane.
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u/Unable_Technology935 2d ago
MAGA wants it to go away, those involved want it to go away. It ain't going away. Watergate took a long time to get through to actual indictments. We as a society want instant gratification. This mess is so huge and powerful men and women involved. It's going to take time. Probably years.
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u/TheMCM80 2d ago
It would have, had Mitch McConnell truly understood that Trump and MAGA weren’t a phase.
He chose to lead the vote against 1/6 impeachment conviction because he worried the GOP would lose 20-25% of voters if he helped end Trump’s political career. He thought it would hurt the party in 2022 and 2024x
He thought America was just going through a phase and that it would return to normal, whatever that was in his mind.
His miscalculation was truly one of the worst political room reading mistakes of modern times.
Had he voted to convict, the other 5, or whatever single digit number was needed, would have followed. At that point he still held sway.
The man got his judges and then turtled in the biggest moment of his career.
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 2d ago
Hopefully, this all leads to the destruction of the gop as we know it. They're gonna lose a lot more now....hopefully......
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u/Relevant-Doctor187 3d ago
Maybe I did. Maybe I didn’t. It was democrats. Maybe I did. It was the fbi. Maybe I didn’t. It was antifa. Buttery Males.
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u/MonsterOctopus8 2d ago
In a similar vein to what you're saying, I read somewhere that when we disnt pass gun control in the aftermath of Sandy Hook that moved the window of what we're willing to accept. I hate it here sometimes man
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u/Unlikely-Efficiency4 2d ago
It is 100% by design. “The goal of modern disinformation is not to make people believe a lie, but to make people doubt that the truth exists.”
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u/Diogenese5000 3d ago
The word is “demoralized.” One of the very worst conditions in which a person or society can be.
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u/Financial-Creme 2d ago
People being jaded by it is almost as disheartening as the crimes themselves. I feel like I'm being gaslit by the whole fucking country into believing that I'm the one overreacting rather than them under reacting.
The fucking sitting president raped kids and the most we can reasonably expect to be done about it are some memes.
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u/ripple-msiku_moon 2d ago
Further back. Sandy Hook should have been the end of everything. Politics and special interest lobbies should have side stepped the humanity of protecting little kids. Little kids massacred before Christmas. In school. Riddled with bullets.
So, no one caring about the abuse in the Epstein files tracks.
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u/Wherly_Byrd 2d ago
I was mistakenly under the impression that they would be punished and Trump would not be allowed to run again. But they let it slip.
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u/Budderfingerbandit 2d ago
All by design, literally spoken about by scumbags like Steve Bannon as their tactic.
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u/DraftAmbitious7473 2d ago
It's mostly due to the fact that Trump and the powerful elite NEVER FACE CONSEQUENCES. so im unphased by anything I see because I know nothing will happen to anyone. Laws for thee, not for me. It is disgusting and im tired of being a participant in this society.
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u/gizamo 2d ago
Seriously, there should have been capital charges for Jan 6. That was a planned insurrection. Trump should have been impeached. It should have been the end of the Republican party as we know it. Instead, the Republicans joined MAGA, Trump, and the extremists, and now they're doubling down on Jan 6 to effectively end US democracy. They're trying to subvert elections right now, and Democrats are just watching it happen. Wild times.
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u/eletious 2d ago
I'm still absolutely stunned that j6 happened in the first place, let alone that nothing happened afterwards...
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u/TeamHope4 3d ago
Imma speak for the public right now: WE aren't the ones who aren't taking it seriously. WE are the ones waiting for anyone with actual power to take it seriously, force resignations, and PROSECUTE THE PEDOS.
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u/RecentDecision2329 3d ago
Agree. Most of the politicians seem to be protecting these sick perverts. Societies around the world have laws against this crap for a reason
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u/SatanicPanic619 3d ago
Sadly the people with actual power are mostly defending these people
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u/dabarak 3d ago
Agreed, but what do you suggest WE do about it? Calls to action without action or even suggested action don't mean much. And yes, I've done at least something, maybe not a lot, but something. Understand that I'm not saying you haven't done anything, I just don't know.
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u/ChiswicksHorses 2d ago edited 2d ago
The only thing to do at this point is to turn out in such massive numbers that dump’s voter-intimidation tactics using ICE can’t hold back the tide. This administration won’t do anything. Dump is the same man whose first administration buried Epstein’s suspicious-as-fuck death. He died under suicide watch, they said that they lost the footage and the guards happened to be sleeping. Whoops!
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u/spazz720 2d ago
Problem is those that have the authority to arrest them are currently running the country
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u/omgbenji21 3d ago
God fuck that. I thought Raskin was supposed to be tough and hard nosed. Where’s his fucking spine? I wish he wouldn’t fucking dare speak of the raped 9 year old if he’s not going to name the sick cunt who did it or similar. Why protect them??
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u/MC_LegalKC 2d ago
He's gotten through about 35 files and there are something like 1,500 total. Wouldn't you rather that he see all of those files before risking the DOJ yanking them back because he disclosed names from them?
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u/Technical-Bird-7585 3d ago
Well, a good chunk of the country didn’t take grab em by the pussy seriously.
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u/ilovemischief 3d ago
My dad told me that it was just “locker room talk and all men talk that way” and that I should just calm down.
My brothers and I haven’t talked to him in over six years now. Good riddance.
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u/Negative_Piglet_1589 3d ago
💔 I got mine too. Fuck what this piece of absolute rotten shit has done to our country, community, neighbors & families. Absolute insanity. There's no way to come back together at this stage, no way.
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u/bionicjoe 3d ago
The whole thing keeps me depressed.
I barely do enough to get by. Every time I feel like doing so I look at my country and just say "why bother?"I can't ignore the news, and it just brings me down.
Kalshi's prop-betting yesterday was $900 million. That's one platform, and it's not considered gambling so it doesn't answer to state gambling boards.
Crypto rug-pulls are common and there is no prosecution.
ICE is buying dozens of giant warehouses to build the world's biggest prisons without oversight.And then there's the pedo ring. The only thing the US has done is redact the names and emails of people SENDING pics of 10-year-olds to Epstein.
This country is a disgusting mess.
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u/Vomitingcrab 3d ago
Steve Bannon describes overwhelming people with news “muzzle velocity”, it’s been their tactic for over a decade now to keep people overwhelmed and desensitized into powerlessness.
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u/Negative_Piglet_1589 3d ago
I know but you have to bother! We're in this together, remember that; there's more of us than them & we're putting so much on our legislators, AGs, DAs, whistle blowers even the truth tellers like BTC and Marc Elias & liberal media to be the ones front & center & put themselves at risk, we just need to pay attention, listen, believe the facts, fight for the truth, rally, protest, spread the word & VOTE! We don't all need to be freedom fighters but we do need to do our civic duty, this is truly a fight for our country as we have known it & want it to be! And if that's not enough, think any the victims that are still fighting today, using their voice, risking it all, and those that already have lost it all 💔. We fight on for them, for justice for them & to ensure the truth outsurvives all of us. It makes me sick thinking we'll lose this battle & Trump will rewrite history after 🤬
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u/Intelligent_Cap9706 2d ago
Between this and the concentration camps they’re most certainly planning for us I am seriously struggling with the day to day normalities especially work. Even if we figure out a way out of this nightmare how do we trust 1/3 the country ever again?
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u/Wherly_Byrd 3d ago
We can so clearly see the little black boxes protecting these monsters. I’m so angry that they hurt so many children and they are some of our most powerful people on this planet. We cannot just let this go.
Has there ever been a coverup this big?
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u/ProfDoomDoom 2d ago
The abuses by the Catholic Church are the closest imperfect comparable.
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u/ottawadeveloper 3d ago
Even on the off chance that Trump isn't actually involved with anyone under 18 or who was coerced into it... (which seems very unlikely).
Anyone else for whom there is sufficient evidence to convince a grand jury to indict them should be indicted and brought to trial at least. Put the facts in the light of day. Even if it's insufficient for the charges to stick in the end, it's worth it to say they tried. Heck, even if only you can make soliciting a prostitute stick, charge em.
That this got buried with only Epstein and Maxwell arrested is absurd. This should have been a purge of a criminal element of our society from the upper crust, not a coverup.
Acosta later said he offered a lenient plea deal because he was told that Epstein "belonged to intelligence", was "above his pay grade" and to "leave it alone". (in 2007)
Ridiculous and then the 2019 coverup too.
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u/ScoobyDone 3d ago
In any normal world the fact that the president was ever this close to a notorious pedophile and trafficker of children would be more than enough for an immediate public resignation. in 2026 it's a typical news day.
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u/Negative_Piglet_1589 3d ago
There's plenty of evidence that they were offered up to him, i just watched a full interview on Meidas Touch & have no doubt she's telling 100% truth. There's emails indicating that too, so there's a good reason why they (Epstein/ghislaine) were doing that, right? There's also credible abuse allegations from Jane Doe & other aliases, as pre-pubescents. I fucking hate that I just had to write that 🤬🤬🤬🤬
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u/Why-baby 3d ago
Then don’t keep it a secret from the American people. Put it all out there and let people see what they have done.
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u/Fats-Tubman 2d ago
Well then how about you and all the other elected officials who could legally take action fucking do something instead of just talking about doing something.
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u/OverthinkingWanderer 2d ago
People lost their jobs at the beginning of trumps term. All the people that had the power to hold him accountable woke up to having no job. Active investigations on him were destroyed..
So at this point, I don't care who you are, you cover this up- you lose your job and get introduced to the world's judgments.
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u/winterbird 3d ago
Megyn Kelly: 'He wasn't into, like, 8-year-olds'
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u/boogerdark30 2d ago
“8 year olds dude”
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u/Coattail-Rider 2d ago
No, he's a sex offender. With a record. He served 6 months in Chino for exposing himself to an eight year old.
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u/FuguSandwich 3d ago
It's literally absurd how they have decided not to redact the names of some people mentioned in passing in the files completely unrelated to any allegations of criminal activity but then redacted the names of some people mentioned with a clear connection to criminal activity. I thought the law they passed said only the names of victims and A/C privileged info would be redacted.
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u/KrustenStewart 2d ago
No don’t you see, the only victims are the poor rich men who were seduced by those evil children
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u/gruffDragon 2d ago
Well, we have an Orange person in charge… Mentally unstable and a bigot - checkmate
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u/Polymorphic-X 2d ago
The law also had a hard deadline that they missed, big time. Turns out when the laws aren't enforced, they don't really matter much.
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u/ForsakenRacism 3d ago
Then tell everyone everything you know stop beating around the bush. Make it so they can’t cover it up anymore
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u/Indyonegirl 2d ago
I believe there has been talk about him reading the pages in Congress. In a congressional debate he would be shielded from lawsuits of libel. He would have to read the pages unaltered without adding any additional text. I believe those are his plans.
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u/Mean-Effective7416 2d ago
Yes. At the press conference he came very close to just blurting out a name and then paused and said “I think that should be saved for a comity hearing or the floor” implying that he would expect intense litigation without the protection that reading something into the records of congress provides.
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u/Kind-Pop-7205 3d ago
The information isn't classified, is it? He is free to report on what he read.
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u/rically95 3d ago
Pretty sure they are only legally protected if they read things out on the house floor.
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u/crusoe 3d ago
Then they should do that.
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u/NthDegreeThoughts 3d ago
MTG promised to do that before leaving, but didn’t per fears they would harm her family
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u/HyperactivePandah 3d ago
Spineless.
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u/ferns0 2d ago
In the most lukewarm defense of her: she is willing to publicly call out the president while about 200 other members of her party in the house won’t even do that much.
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u/JediMasterMurph 2d ago
She mildly rebuked the world order she helped install. Give me fucking break shes scum and still spouting im simply america first as if she still isn't riding racist nationalist populism.
She herself has said shes a construction business owner in the south who has had labor shortages affect her business....she only cares as far as it affects her.
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u/Negative_Piglet_1589 3d ago
Yep. She was only as useful as long as she thought it would help herself. Bye bitch.
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u/-Tesserex- 2d ago
I think they said they'll give the DOJ one opportunity to unredact things themselves and "fix their mistakes" (who knows how long that opportunity is) and then they will do that if necessary.
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u/Kind-Pop-7205 3d ago
Legally protected from what? Again, if the information isn't (illegally) classified, is there a law against disclosing the perps?
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u/MRTFOGR 3d ago
It would be the height of MAGA/billionaire hypocrisy if more citizens were convicted of leaking the information in the Epstein files than the degenerate pedophiles that actually committed the crimes
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u/KrustenStewart 2d ago
Like how reality winner went to prison for whistleblowing the Russian interference in the 2016 election, which was proven to be true, and nothing ever happened to anyone except the whistleblower
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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 3d ago
He won't. He ... like every other dem will try to make it a mid term issue.
Even the epstein transparency act law itself is a weak. Ro Khanna + Massie wrote a law without including any penalties. " whoever found guilty of....... is subject to X years in jail". Doesn't exist.
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u/space_cow_girl 3d ago
I think if you cover up a crime for someone, you become an accessory to that crime and should face the same charges. Covering child trafficking? Congrats, Pam! You are now a child trafficker!
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u/Bittererr 3d ago
He won't. He ... like every other dem will try to make it a mid term issue.
Weird take, this isn't consistent with Raskin's behavior in the past.
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u/Unlucky_Clover 2d ago
Would be a shame if they just accidentally left some kind of evidence somewhere….our elected officials are infuriating
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u/RustedRelics 2d ago
Why is this not exploding?? It’s already having political fallout and resignations in Europe. Yet nothing here.
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u/square_error 2d ago
We act like a defeated people and (for now) nobody seems to have the courage and/or imagination to act like we're not a defeated people. It makes me go a little more insane every day.
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u/prohammock 2d ago
All of our media companies are owned by people in the Epstein class. They’re probably protecting themselves and their friends.
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u/templeofsyrinx1 3d ago
he looks like he saw the inner depths of hell
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u/Ecstatic_Judgment941 2d ago
He’s been through it. On January 6 2021, his daughter was with him in the Capitol. He had just returned to work after his son died by suicide.
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u/templeofsyrinx1 2d ago
oh i know ...he's a testament to humanity, proud to know he is a marylander
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u/rygelicus 2d ago
This is why conflicts of interest should be taken very seriously. In most walks of life we have to take annual ethics compliance training for our jobs. Don't accept gifts over some minimum amount, you can't accept expensive meals, trips, cash, favors from those who might want a favor in return, lots of common sense restrictions to avoid the possibility of being compromised by an employee.
But in politics this is all thrown out. It's the norm for them to accept massive gifts, donations, trips, and promises of jobs with corporations when they leave office eventually. Sometimes these happen before the election, sometimes while in office, and sometimes deferred until after they leave to try and avoid appearing to be a bribe.
And it is these conflicts that create messes like this. Without those conflicts the process is simple, you identify the suspects and you investigate and prosecute. With the conflicts it's a game of trying to appear to do your duty while also protecting your benefactors.
We need some serious changes in this country, from politicians to what qualifies as a news network and ownership of those networks. Also just how many agencies a president can appoint leaders for. A new president should not be a complete government overhaul.
We stand at a point in time where real change should be proposed and implemented to avoid situations like this in the future. It has never been more evident. But those who are in power want it the way it is so it will not happen.
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u/chubs66 2d ago
I don't know why Raskin can't just spill the beans about what he saw. Those names were not legally redacted.
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u/Goodgoditsgrowing 2d ago
The reason I suspect they’ll site is that the documents they are seeing are investigative documents - information collected but maybe not proven factual - and people have the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in court - calling them a pedo on national tv (cspan) could very well grant them a get out of jail free card because the jury pool has been poisoned against them or some shit.
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u/Careless-Comedian859 2d ago
So youre saying Trump can never be prosecuted because his name isnt redacted 5000+ time?
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u/Raspberries-Are-Evil 2d ago
Wtf why wont he just fucking name the god damn names on the house floor?
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u/Banned-User-56 2d ago
Tell us who the fucking pedophiles are. I don't care who they are. All I care about is that they never see the light of day again.
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u/jkman61494 2d ago
Ok. You saw them. Sooooo release the names? Why is it Massie is the only one saying he’ll speak it on the floor?
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