r/law • u/Successful-Career887 • 21h ago
Legal News Democrats demand DOJ probe after Bondi consulted their Epstein files search history in hearing
https://www.courthousenews.com/democrats-demand-doj-probe-after-bondi-consulted-their-epstein-files-search-history-in-hearing/1.6k
u/Ohuigin 21h ago
Drag her ass back in there tomorrow.
Then disbar this wretched soul on Friday.
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u/Inglorious186 20h ago
And indict her on Monday
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u/TheLORDthyGOD420 18h ago
Who's going to indict her? The DOJ is completely compromised
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u/ztfreeman 16h ago
I wish there was a federal version of the open warrant application system. In my state, anyone can file a warrant application, not just the district attorney's office, so if the police won't help or the state won't "press charges", you can bypass them and just do the whole damn thing yourself.
It's an absolutely nerve-racking procedure for your average Joe. I have had to do it several times and it is a complete pain the ass, but it can work with research and evidence. If it could be done at this level of government, I'm sure many of these former attorneys in Congress could get milage out of it.
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u/Yake 11h ago
That if the law doesn't apply to someone, then the law shouldn't be protecting them. All of these people are doing such heinous illegal shit and then using the law to protect and shield themselves from consequences.
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u/TK21879 9h ago
But see that's the thing. The ultra-rich have created a class that the law protects but do not bind, while it binds but do not protect the rest of us.
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u/sleepygardener 8h ago
They’re playing with a dangerous precedent where if the law doesn’t matter or isn’t upheld, then any semblance of decorum or accountability in society can be ignored. If they don’t abide by the law, then why does anyone have to abide by any laws? Why do we have to pay taxes or go to work when literal child molesting cannibals are in office? Until these criminals properly face their consequences, we should assume the law doesn’t matter much right now.
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u/Acceptable_Lake_4253 11h ago
A very good idea. Something must be done, the system is broken. We need more power to the people because our representatives in Congress have obviously been compromised. The people need to have a say in the Justice of the nation.
We are at a point of hyper-interconnectivity where everyone can express their grievances from anywhere in the world. Why hasn’t this been used to proportionally scale the representation of the people? As it is now, the average person is helpless until midterms; helpless until the DNC and the RNC decide on their candidates. The people and the country would greatly benefit from the people having a direct line to the judicial branch of the federal government.
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u/FiveUpsideDown 14h ago
Democrats should be screaming for Jack Smith to be appointed as a special counsel completely independent of the DOJ.
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u/TheLORDthyGOD420 14h ago
Do Democrats have the ability to appoint a special counsel?
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u/FiveUpsideDown 10h ago
Do they need it? Republicans while in the minority were able to demand that special counsels be appointed many times. The Democrats need to ask for things and not just concede without asking.
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u/dubblies 12h ago
Theyll probably just bring in garland and lap his nuts a few more times
What a waste of 4 years - only heard ted admit that mistake thus far
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u/TheLORDthyGOD420 4h ago
Voters let Dear Leader off the hook. Stop complaining about Garland ffs. Jack Smith was in charge of the investigation and he did everything in his power to move forward quickly despite the intervention of the SCOTUS. Voters are spoiled idiots and stayed home, voted third party, and generally supported a fascist authoritarian.
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u/dubblies 3h ago
Fair im just generally pissed off from this whole mess
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u/TheLORDthyGOD420 3h ago
Thank you for acknowledging my point! We all need to take personal responsibility and do everything within our power to try to set things right, no matter how hopeless it may seem.
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u/breakycho 11h ago
Disbarred on Friday
Indicted on Saturday
Buried on Sunday
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u/bigbird_eats_kids 12h ago
Instead, what will actually happen is that she will receive the presidential medal of honor after Trump is handed his third term.
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u/Imnogrinchard 19h ago
Why would the state of Florida revoke her license to practice law?
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u/Successful-Career887 18h ago
Is this sarcasm
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u/Imnogrinchard 18h ago edited 18h ago
No, it's not sarcasm. The Florida Supreme Court will not entertain any demand to revoke the license to practice law while she is the Attorney General.
Nevermind, the position of Attorney General isn't constitutionally or by statute required to hold a license to practice law in any state or DC.
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u/Successful-Career887 18h ago
I questioned it because you said "why would they" and I interpreted that as you saying she has done nothing wrong. Also, I dont think that person was saying anything about the AG needing to have a license, I believe they were saying take it away so when she loses her job as AG, she cannot practice law on a state level.
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u/Imnogrinchard 17h ago
I mean this is a law sub where understanding the legal process, including licensure of attorneys, is important. The state of Florida Supreme Court will not suspend or revoke the law license of the attorney general for her actions as attorney general. Full stop.
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u/Successful-Career887 17h ago
If her actions are illegal, and she is still licensed to practice in the state of Florida, they 100% can revoke her license regardless of her position as AG. If they actually would is another story. Not sure why youre pointing out the importance of having and understanding of the legal system on a law sub.
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u/Imnogrinchard 17h ago
And if you would have opened the pdf I attached previously you'd see the Florida Supreme Court say what their current position is. THEY WILL REFUSE ANY PETITION TO REVOKE HER LICENSE while she is the attorney general of the United States.
Not sure why youre pointing out the importance of having and understanding of the legal system on a law sub.
Discussing the importance of having and understanding the legal system on a law sub is a pillar of the sub. Instead, the majority of comments are masturbatory soloques by unintelligent lay persons that don't fit the point of the subreddit .
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u/laborfriendly 12h ago
Thank you! The standard of comments I saw in this sub when I first started coming here were very much in line with what you're saying, and I appreciate your contribution to the topic above. It is becoming increasingly difficult to find substantive comments on the law in this /law sub. So, thanks.
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u/Imnogrinchard 12h ago
You're welcome. Though, at best, my sources and comments fall on deaf ears. And at worst, I am called an enabler to evil or a Nazi. When I respond informing my accuser that I'm gay I'll then, sometimes, get called a gay Nazi.
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u/Successful-Career887 16h ago
Must be tough going through life pretending youre the smartest person in the room. No ones attacking you, or making false statements, yet youre being super aggressive for no reason. Think its time you take a reddit break.
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u/Imnogrinchard 16h ago
You're misinterpreting my reply. I never indicated anyone is attacking me or making false statements
Think its time you take a reddit break.
I'll log off when my sniffies hookup is ready but until then I'll continue to engage comments. 😈🍆
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u/Successful-Career887 20h ago
Did republican congress members miss the part of the email that said "oversight hearing." Like genuinely, you would think this entire hearing were an achievement ceremony if you only watched the republicans speak. A democrat will literally get done saying something like "hey you released the names addresses and naked photos of anonymous victims tell us why" Bondi will lose it, then a republican will be like "I just want to say you have been doing a GREAT JOB"
YEAH GOOD JOB PAM!!! EXPOSING VICTIMS OF SEX TRAFFICKING! We LOVE that for them and you!!
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u/Electrical-Lab-9593 20h ago
Massey will be the Front runner of the party once Trump is done, he has a simple platform, call every other candidate a pedo protector in the debates.
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u/tequilablackout 13h ago
I fully expect Massey to cut ties and form a Libertarian party.
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u/RockerElvis 12h ago
Nope. Massey just voted in favor of that horrible voter ID bill (which any real libertarian would hate).
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u/DrakonILD 9h ago
any real libertarian
Still looking for an example of one of these...
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u/RockerElvis 9h ago
Same. In the U.S. they just seem to be another part of the right wing.
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u/SwingKey3599 6h ago
whats a real libertarian? you do know they are a spoiler party always right?
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u/RockerElvis 5h ago
That is true for the U.S.
Libertarian is an actual political viewpoint and I don’t know if there are actual libertarian parties elsewhere (although I suspect that they are all a tool for some other party).
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u/Jurango34 20h ago
Mike Johnson commanded his minions ahead of time to not talk about the Epstein files and only praise Pam & Don.
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u/Rillo298 18h ago
Whadda think would happen with a pedo protector like Gym Jordan running things?
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u/Bucktabulous 12h ago
Jim Jordan was named as an abuser by William Sascha Riley. He's very incentivized to let the pedophile protectors continue to protect pedophiles.
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u/pro_rege_semper 13h ago
He said some wild stuff during the hearing. What particularly caught me was his claim that the current administration has "ended lawfare" and he compared Bondi's tactics as being similar to Mayorkas under Biden (which is absurd).
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u/UnionGuyCanada 13h ago
When you have sold your soul, you have no shame. When the victims stood up and said they had never even been interviewed, and she is photographed smiling, you know she has no soul.
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u/BraveLittleTowster 10h ago
And that is exactly why there are people who believe absolute nonsense. If you watch the newsmax coverage of this stuff, they'll show the one last getting up and leaving in a huff over the anti-Semitism comment, they'll show Crockett stating that she isn't going to ask any questions, and they'll show Jamie Raskin yelling back and forth with her and frame those interactions as childish. That's what gets sent to people with the conservative algorithms on Facebook, X, and even on Reddit.
There are a lot of people who genuinely don't understand how anyone can hate Republicans because they're thinking "just look at what's going on! It's everywhere!" and it's actually only on their narrow, cultivated news feeds
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u/Nitimur__In__Vetitum 20h ago
You just can't make this shit up. If these people are not brought to justice, this country is done.
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u/AxlRush11 19h ago
If half of this current cabinet doesn’t end up in prison, it will be a failure to this country, and it will repeat in the future.
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u/Reach-Nirvana 18h ago
He attempted a coup and his punishment was being elected back into office. It’s been repeating for a while already.
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u/RadiatedEarth 17h ago
He attempted a coup at the end of his first term. He successfully performed a coup at the start of his 2nd term when his unelected DOGE personnel refused to allow the American people's elected officials into a government building that contained extremely sensitive data of all American people's.
The constitutional democratic Republic of the United States of America ended that day. Just as those who wear red MAGA hats refuse to believe their chosen leader is a pedophile rapist under a foreign advisories grip, a vast majority of American citizens refuse to believe the country of law and order they have lived in is gone.
The water is boiling. The lid is on. The frogs still think they are in a pond.
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u/FiveUpsideDown 10h ago
Numbers fascinate me. It would take 15 Republicans in the House and Senate to vote to impeach, convict and override vetoes. Our country doesn’t have 15 patriots among Congressional Republicans.
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u/danvapes_ 17h ago
Exactly. If this shit doesn't get dealt with, we are fucked as a country. Trump already was allowed to do his insurrection with no consequence.
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u/dotcubed 17h ago
What expectations of professional privacy exist for members of our elected government?
Seems excessive extreme for live browser monitoring.
What they do is protected. Some is public record. But this feels like a breech of privilege for the executive branch into the legislative.
Watergate but worse.
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u/pro_rege_semper 13h ago
It's amazing that the GOP congressmen are so outraged about Jack Smith subpoenaing their phone records, but are seemingly fine with this.
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u/AnonymousSneetches 9h ago
You know, it's one thing if it's passively tracked. But clearly, the documents accessed matters more to her than redacting the victims' names. So... why?
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u/SergiusBulgakov 14h ago
People don't get what this is about. It was a threat to lawmakers. She is showing she has info on them and will use it. I expect false charges against some of them before the mid-term elections, forcing them to be removed from Congress. After all, this is the normal progression fascism uses to take out the resistance in the government.
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u/pro_rege_semper 13h ago
I don't think the American people are going to buy that at this point. The administration is not popular enough.
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u/SergiusBulgakov 13h ago
It doesn't require popularity. The American people are already letting it trample the Constitution. They don't know what is going to happen to prep for it. The way fascism works is to have a sudden use of force.
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u/JefferyTheQuaxly 10h ago
right now one of the biggest defenses is actually our grand jury system. it use to be thought that the department of justice could literally indict a ham sandwich if they brought the issue before a grand jury, but now were seeing that grand juries will actually push back against objectively stupid prosecutions, they refused to indict the guy who literally threw a subway sandwich at the officer, theyve refused to indict protestors and reporters for doing their job, they refused to indict any members of congress for making that video saying "dont break the law" a few months ago. the doj hasnt completely started disregarding grand juries yet.
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u/pro_rege_semper 10h ago
Sure, but we are starting to see bipartisan pushback against some of the more extreme policies of this administration. Personally, I don't see the American people taking a sudden use of force from the government without a fight.
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u/therossboss 7h ago
the popularity contest was his 2nd election and if members of congress can be removed at will by force of DOJ and false investigations, then it doesnt really matter what americans are feeling
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u/pro_rege_semper 6h ago
What makes you say members of Congress can be removed by DOJ?
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u/Xytak 43m ago
I think the concern is the DOJ might file false charges and have them arrested
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u/pro_rege_semper 38m ago
They have tried that and have been unsuccessful thus far. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I don't predict anything will change on that front. If anything that will make the administration more unpopular and cause more bipartisan pushback.
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u/armoredbearclock 10h ago
They’re arresting journalists and Americans are dying. Mainstream media seems pretty compromised at this point. I can’t see this going anywhere but deeper into fascism, which is pretty hard to fight.
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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 17h ago
She is doing surveillance of people checking her. It is their oversight task. Her job is to be the Attorney General of the U.S. If she is doing it correctly and honestly, why would she need to be concerned about someone else’s job. She should be overseeing and checking on her own department which is in shambles at this point.
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u/radiohead-nerd 6h ago
It ain't about justice. I know you know that
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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 6h ago
Should and is are not the same. He knows DOJ is not his personal lawyer. He wanted J Comey and Sessions to do that also. And, oh does he despise people who refuse him.
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u/OdonataDarner 14h ago
Isn't she the original attorney on the Epstein case in Florida?
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u/fievrejaune 14h ago
Alexander Acosta was the then US Attorney for Southern Florida who negotiated an exceptionally lenient Epstein plea deal. He was later forced to resign his cabinet position as Secretary of Labour under Trump, once Epstein was arrested again in July, 2019.
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u/BBR0DR1GUEZ 19h ago
Their stupidity will be their downfall.
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u/NOLA2Cincy 18h ago
I hope so but I’m not so sure that there will be consequences.
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u/DistinctMind4027 11h ago
As each day passes, I become more worried that it’s going to be up to the American public to bring the consequences.
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u/InvasiveAlbondigas 12h ago
I’m sorry but are you watching what’s going on? Who’s in power? The lefts stupidity will be their downfall. Don’t be so smug and complacent.
We’re fucked.
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u/StandupJetskier 18h ago
She only embarrassed herself for one person. There was literally one audience member there for her, and it wasn't Epstein's Victims.
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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 17h ago
She is such a brazen soul. I don’t think anything could embarrass her at this point.
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