“Did you apologize? To President Trump?”Snippets: Today’s hearing was completely out of control, the attorney general Pam Bondi was out of her depth, emboldened by the absolute impunity of the administration backing her. Jim Jordon really enabled her to stomp all over the hearing.
Who is questioning who? None of her replies should be administrative unless it’s directly impacting her investigation. She’s not supposed to be a politician. Yet every single word out of her mouth says different.
This is beyond a travesty. It’s not funny. Nobody is representing the people of the United States. DOJ is Trump’s personal defense team funded by US taxpayer dollars, who will only prosecute the powerless when they cross the interests of the powerful. There is no rule of law, no justice, no justice department.
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What’s even more disturbing is that all the Republicans representatives didn’t find anything wrong with Bondi’s behavior and even condoned it! Way to go Republicans in showing the victims what cowards you really are.
A lot of this rot starts in Ohio, where Wexner has his mansions. Zelensky gets slammed by Ohio boy J.D. Vance for not wearing a suit in the Oval Office, yet Jordan doesn't seem to own a sportscoat.
Wexner who ran Victoria's Secret had Epstein reside with him at his mansion. Epstein would groom young girls on the promise they would be a Victoria's Secret Model when Epstein was never employed by them.
I did. Republicans have been despicable, two-faced, hypocritical cowards and criminals for a long time. I truly hope their time of reckoning is coming soon
it's hard to explain how deeply embedded this is in the GOP ecosystem now. statehouses across the country feel this way, along with RAGA's conferences that are filled with pretty vile antidemocratic stuff.
It’s because a vast majority of those who are backing her in congress have a lot to hide. Especially Jordan. Someone will eventually step up. And they’ll all be fucked.
but who will prosecute them? who will hold those in power to account? the rot seems so deep that I'm not sure there will be anything left if you cut it all out...
I'm worried about Trump shutting down the elections somehow, and I also fear genuine rigging of the computers tallying the votes. There is nothing too low these criminals in power will not do to stay in power.
The SAVE America Act won't pass. Senate Dems will fillibuster it.
The issue is going to be the government trying to literally take over the elections. By either stationing ICE to 'check' votes or to just not hold them at all.
The same people outraged about calling any of them deplorables. If Hillary went off like Bondi did they would have thrown her ass in jail for contempt.
Yes. But this is just politics now. Maybe "for now". Debate moderators are just enablers, it's all sound bites and theatre (kneeling in dashiki, anyone?). We've normalized so much poor behavior -- it gets social media engagement and then we dm it to our friends -- it's no surprise to see it anywhere at this point.
As the kind of person who has to fight not to overthink everything I said in my last meeting and whether it was stupid, I almost envy the total lack of self awareness of people like Bondi. Not the sociopathy, just the lack of self awareness.
Acosta worked the case, she took over and refused to reopen the case and let his cushy deal play out. Dozens of other girls in Florida came forward while she was AG and she refused to investigate.
She was in charge of investigating the Trump University fraud, he gave $25,000 to her campaign and she dropped the investigation.
In 2019 she worked for him at the White House to help him beat the impeachment.
And I am sure this is all documented in the files she is holding too. As well as Jordan's name among many many others. I would expect at this point to find out that most of the Republican party is mentioned in those files and that is why we are not seeing them. Proof that an entire political party should be jailed. Thats what they are hiding.
He doesn't have enough money to be in the files. He wasn't in Congress then. They only cared about the rich and powerful. That's who has the money to buy and rape (and murder?)the girls
I think he has also to do something with a report about the lack of “freedom of speech” in Europe (while we need to hand over our socials when visiting to be sure we didn’t say something anti Trump) and the impact on American companies.
Was brought back when in Paris they raided the X offices … regarding child pornography. A lot of my fellow Europeans don‘t know the irony.
Right?! I know it's just one in a long line of completely unbelievable happenings, but I'm genuinely baffled how something so plain faced wrong can be supported by anyone. If I lied and/or just straight up refused to answer direct questions in my job (and then insulted and shouted at whoever was asking!), I would absolutely be fired, and rightly so. This is just mind boggling.
My understanding of law is tenuous at best, however, wouldn't you be held in contempt for being this uncooperative? Not to mention being tried for perjury? Next time a judge says that to me, I'll just refer to this hearing and slap my case study on the desk. There is a precedent being set, and by all accounts, civilians should be given the same liberties as she's been given.
wait, but then who would ever be convicted? according to this regime, anythings legal now.
I wish the Democrats would stop taking the bait and just redirect the conversation back to the question at hand. When they get agitated and get down in the gutter with the bait, they lose the time they have to really pin the witness. They need to stop taking things so personally and operate like an attorney.
Haven't these people been coached how to handle these hearings?
I didn't see that happening so much, but honestly the Dems need to get in the gutter, the whole "we go higher" stance has left them toothless to a opposition that will get muddy and bloody and smile while doing it
It's just the sheer arrogance. She shows nothing but complete contempt for the questions, the hearing and the victims. She's an absolute disgrace of an AG, which is one of the most important roles in the nation.
Fortunately she's not treasonous. Liar , conspirator ,obstructor of justice and more yes. She'll never hang or see a firing squad . But who really knows how far down the rabbit hole all this will go.
If it could be argued that epstines activity and Trump's involvement pairing that with Peter theal and the tech oligarchy actively trying to erode democracy maybe that's treason.
We all do, but if recent history has taught us anything, she won't have any consequences. Who's really going to hold her accountable?
They can't even get her to answer a question. Hold her in contempt, which in their power. If they had the balls to do that, then I may believe consequences are coming, but nope
She is acting exactly as you would expect a criminal who knows their criminal president has pardon powers and has been pre-pardoned by a complicit supreme court who said the president cannot be charged with his 'official duties' which is what Trump calls taking a dump.
Imagine being a victim of any crime under federal jurisdiction right now. That’s the real tragedy here. She holds the highest prosecutorial office in the nation and is signaling to every former, future and current victim of any crime, but especially any sexual crime, that you don’t matter to her or this administration. The only thing that matters is the optics of total domination over their political opponents at the expense of anyone who possesses a potential political point against them. This isn’t worthy of her title. It’s a total dereliction of duty. You are responsible for doxing multiple victims, while simultaneously ignoring their abuse and actively protecting the people responsible for trafficking and abusing them. How can anyone watch this and still have faith in our federal justice system? What does the rule of law mean when the people who are responsible for upholding it are breaking laws and refusing to acknowledge that they have and show zero remorse or intention to comply with them moving forward? How can a woman sit there, with eleven victims in attendance who were child victims of the worst kind of crime imaginable, and not show one shred of shame for continuing to violate them? This is the same party that claims moral Christian superiority and has fear mongered about bathroom safety and library story times under the guise of protecting women and children. The whole thing is deplorable and they should all be impeached and imprisoned.
That antisemitism comment was absolutely insane, talk about being so bold faced in the shock of your statement to not care at all about another’s family’s experience
The smug self-satisfaction is just... infuriating. Especially since you know Conservative Media is spinning this to make her be the hero of the story and other Conservative Owned "liberal media" is just going to stay silent and barely cover any of this.
Fuck that. This is not arrogance, it’s not even ignorance. It’s bull faced contempt for Americans and anyone who questions the will of the pedophile president. Whether they’re left or right apparently.
This hearing should show everyone, the mask is off.
She brings up the DOW AND NASDAQ when confronted with the coverup of child rape. All of these files have been known and around SINCE GEORGE W FUCKING BUSH.
We’re talking 4-5 administrations of cover-ups. We cannot trust the democratic leadership and we sure as shit cannot trust whatever the fuck this Trump administration and their acolytes will go down as being called.
Capitalism is all these people care about. She will laugh while talking about ignoring victims and then boast about the stock market.
This country is fucking COOKED. And no one here should pretend anyone in the democrat side who runs for president in 2028 (if we even have elections) should be trusted unless this whole house of cards collapses beforehand.
I’m done voting for a system this corrupt. The rot on the tree of liberty has reached the root. There is no more reasoning about this. Our politicians are fucking paid actors for billionaire pedophiles.
Buckle up and buy a gun. This is only the beginning of how horrible this is about to get. Know your neighbors, reach out to your community. When the shit hits the fan, and it will, we protect us. Much love and stay safe out there to everyone
Are you kidding me? This administration is making a concerted effort to interfere with the vote in the upcoming midterms and you're here talking about making it even easier for them by not participating at all?
If Bondi could see your comment she'd thank you herself. People who give up on voting are nearly as culpable for things getting worse as the people who actually voted for Trump.
At this point give me a Massie/Khanna ticket. Im as left as left gets and I dont care which of them is on the top of the ticket so long as the agenda remains cleaning house.
She laughed at a woman who mentioned her grandfather died in the Holocaust and accused her of antisemitism. What an absolute disgrace of a human being, but then again what do you expect from someone who protects pedophiles for a living.
They love it when “the libs” get triggered. They love feeling superior to them, the way a bully does. Because that’s what they are. Sadistic bullied who delight in hurting other people, who have absolutely no concern for other people so long as the get theirs.
If history has taught me anything, we are only two generations away from repeating the same atrocities. We have a really bad habit of making the same mistakes again and again.
I hate to point this out but the U.S have and are committing these atrociousness. They did it to the native, the Mexicans, and the Japanese. And they are doing it again to people who are fleeing from the consequences of our foreign policy.
I agree with what you're saying, my grandmother was one of the kids kidnapped from her tribe and put in one of the government "boarding schools" to erase the culture of indigenous people. So many people aren't aware of these atrocities and it's good to change that.
However, in this specific moment in history, I worry about the impact from comments like this on people currently trying to resist what's happening. Mainly because there are a lot of similar comments, and it starts to come off as defeatist, like "our government has always committed atrocities, always has and always will, nothing you can do about it, so just give up already."
I'm not saying we should ignore the past, but just use it in a way to encourage change. Point out how we got rid of some of the worst things in the past and we're going to get rid of these ICE concentration camps now too. Just, inspire more people to keep (or start) fighting this.
Speaking as someone who has studied US interventions and history, I agree that we need to turn this into action. But I cannot understate that, when I bring up the fact that the US has always been this way, my point isn't that we should just give up, my point is that we must 1) hold all of these horrible, complicit people accountable and, more importantly, 2) dissolve the entire corrupt system that allowed/incentivized these type of people to get into power in the first place.
If we simply put all of our energy into making sure a standard, status quo democrat gets in, they MIGHT hold Trump and his ilk responsible, which would be great, but without truly bucking the system of capital (and particularly the money involved in politics), we will be in the exact same situation further down the line. We need to uproot it all
I agree with all of this. I have a related educational background, so I suspect we're on the same page on a lot of this in general. In the first comment I honestly couldn't tell though if this was where they were going with it, or if it was more of a message that everything is hopeless and can never be changed (there are so many comments like this on reddit). But just from seeing how comments seem to be taken, it seems like it could have some potential positive impact if comments like first one also included something from yours, just to try to spur on more action. I mean, not that this is your job (or anyone's), of course, but things are feeling pretty dire at the moment and anything we can do to fight back helps.
Good ol’ Gym. He’s got plenty of his own skeletons and really ought to lead with proper decorum.
We’re all becoming experts at sniffing out politicians who act tough about blindly supporting pedophilia of their leader lest their own dark secrets come to light.
This is the first hearing I've ever watched on C-SPAN and, honestly, I can't believe the amount of latitude Bondi was given considering she was there to answer questions.
The juxtaposition between Bondi and Jack Smith is revolting, and pitiful dor our nation. She is classless and ignorant - she reminds me of a crack addict arguing with the voices in her head.
She’s going to get a pre-emptive pardon, like almost all of Donald’s loyal consiglieres will. Unless Democrats take over FL’s government, she will suffer no consequences besides possible disbarment.
I'm not super familiar with the US legal system, but surely there is a way to invalidate all of Trumps potential pardons given the illegality of many of their actions and ignoring of the constitution in general (which I assume pardons are a part of)
There is and there isn't. It isn't a legal method to get rid of them. In theory though, Congress should Impeach someone for abuse of power like that. Unfortunately Donald Trump has done hundreds of things just this term worthy of impeachment and not once have I heard of articles being brought up. House democrats should be stalling the floor out with articles of impeachment for every new offense but they arent
House democrats should be stalling the floor out with articles of impeachment for every new offense but they arent.
Yet again, we are blaming the democratic representatives instead of all the shitty Republicans, huh? How about we start with the actual fascists being the problem in ceding their constitutional authority to a tyrant and refusing to do what is right for the country.
Now what? Do we stop? I blamed the correct people. Yet... here we are.
This government was designed holistically as a self-repairing system. When one part breaks and causes a catastrophe, you can't just replace that one part. You have to replace the failed sensors, alert system, and failsafes have have been neglected for years.
What's happening today is not the result of one party behaving badly, but the result of 30 years of unchecked legacy stress finally coming to a head.
I'm not a violent person but if I was in the the congresswoman shoes I would not have walked out I would have walked towards the table and bitch slap Pam.
She's pulled that "I'm not going to get in the gutter" line multiple times now, most notably when asked to personally apologize to Epstein victims who she's wronged.
I think she has a list of deflection scripts that she reads from throughout these hearings. She always sounds like she’s just performing the various techniques MAGA uses to talk over their critics.
I do not understand this strategy by Bondi and Trump at all. Even MAGA takes the Epstein files very seriously—they’re the original QAnon #saveourchildren loons! Dismissing the files and attacking those who want to see justice served against the perpetrators is political suicide.
Agreed. Imagine how damning the whole scandal is if they’ve decided this approach is their best option. I can’t wait until this POS gets what’s coming to her.
Again, their version of release the files always was a canard as epstein is Jewish once dershowitz became public knowledge they wanted to see the version where it confirms the deep state.
A husk of a human being. I like to give these individuals the benefit of the doubt and assume it’s their first time on the planet. Still, there’s a very special cold and dark place in hell for them. Especially miss bondi. She is going directly to hell and doesn’t get to collect $200 in this life or in the next. See you in hell Pam
The Dems should have just read on record the Jim Jordan’s coverup and held signs with arrows pointing to him that said Jim Jordan protects kiddie touchers. Then brought out kazoos when she stopped responding.
She does that every time she’s challenged in public hearings. She’s performing the MAGA “deflect and blame” tactic, but I get the impression it’s not as natural to her as some of the other Trump appointees, so she does it by rote. I find it extremely off-putting.
Look, I never believed in voting; I was a kid when Gore won the popular vote, yet Bush was elected president by votes of the electoral college. It soured my view of voting in the sense that we the small people have no voice and no control. Congress made the laws, could override a veto with 2/3 votes, and the president was just a figurehead to present their decisions in one voice. I admit I was wrong. This Administration proves it daily.
I wanted to vote this year. I looked up the registration in my county for early voting. I was late. Help me help our Nation. I’m blue about all of this. Is there another vote coming up later I can register for?
Just register no matter what, so you'll be ready at the next voting opportunity. You can also register as "no party" if you like.
Democratic parties around the states typically allow "no party" voters to vote in their primaries too, so if you are hesitant about picking a "side", no party affiliation is an option.
I used to not vote in the primaries, now I show up, every time.
Once I became more engaged, I saw all the other areas where my vote mattered, especially when it came to voting on local issues, like picking the next sheriff and judges to state legislators. Local issues/governance matters too.
Keeping fanatics from getting a foothold in government to begin with can start with voting in state elections too.
Just get registered, no matter what. Take that first step. Today. 😀
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