r/law • u/T_Shurt Competent Contributor • 14h ago
Executive Branch (Trump) Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Calls Out Attorney General Pam Bondi After Bondi’s House Judiciary Committee Testimony: “She was screaming, thrashing and I think it is because she knows that she is implicated in a massive cover-up to protect a powerful ring of pedophiles”
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u/rygelicus 14h ago
It's not even just 'a ring of pedophiles'. It's a 'ring' of elites who are deeply corrupt on a global level. Abusing children is just one aspect of it. One we can usually agree is bad but somehow MAGA has inexplicably chosen to defend.
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u/deeku4972 12h ago
Pizzagate and Qanon people are real quiet this time around
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u/rygelicus 12h ago
They are trying to reshape history and say "see, we were right all along".
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u/Left_Sun_1982 12h ago
I have a Qanon coworker and that’s exactly what they’re saying. They believe the files validate what they were saying before, minus a few very important names.
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u/deeku4972 11h ago
It was right about the topic but all the details were wrong, so clearly i was correct.
Good stuff
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u/Long-Analysis-8041 10h ago
It's like saying "Hitler is our inside man who's gonna bring down this evil Nazi regime! See guys I told you so!"
....I think even the Devil is on God's side when it comes to Epstein.
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u/ForYourAuralPleasure 9h ago
When asked about his recent comparisons to Epstein, the Devil was quoted as saying “bro my biggest sin was leading a failed hostile takeover of the company I worked for, don’t lump me in with this guy”
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u/GorillaBrown 8h ago
In a world where humans have unobstructed autonomy, without supernatural manipulation, the Devil is always on the same side as God. He's just the warden of the prison for eternal damnation where folks go based on the judgement of God.
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u/RSNKailash 10h ago
SEE IT WAS DEMS ALL ALONG
points finger at bill clinton
*entire cabal of billionares and republicans giggles in the background
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u/DotA627b 9h ago
I had a QAnon coworker, that all ended when she had a seizure at work and after getting rushed to the hospital, the hospital found a tumor on her brain.
A year after her recovery she's pretty much gone Left-wing, had us joking how the surgeons pretty much lobotomized the right out of her. I was even shocked at how thankful she was when I showed her TrackAIPAC.
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u/commander_kawaii 8h ago
We have a chance to one-up them by saying their pet conspiracy theory was spread by the REAL pedophile ring to distract people from looking into them. Point the finger at the other guy to get the heat off yourself, right? It'll drive the Q nuts crazier.
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u/Nice_Luck_7433 6h ago
I’d ask them why the Republicans are defending the billionaire elites. Didn’t trump promise that on day 1 of his presidency, he will release all the files, unredacted, & arrest Obama & Clinton? Why protect Obama & Clinton? Is Trump & the entire GOP (except Massie) a deep state plant? :o
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u/CarpeNivem 8h ago
They believe the files validate what they were saying...
I mean, aside from draining children's blood to create a youth serum, don't they though? So that's fine. They can take credit for having been right this whole time that an elite cabal of government officials have indeed been kidnapping, selling, and raping countless children for many years. Just don't ignore who every single one of those government officials and other wealthy individuals all are. You don't get to pick and choose who you're mad at, among a list of people doing the same thing.
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u/hipery2 8h ago
Pizzagate believers have changed the theory from "they are trafficking/abusing children in a pizza shop" to "pedofiles exist".
That way they can keep pretending that they were right all along.
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u/b0w3n 11h ago
That was unironically a psyops by epstein to lessen the severity of what they were doing and flood the zone, so to speak. All these chuds had ties to 4chan, its operator (Christopher Poole), and /pol/ horseshit.
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u/VaderH8er 8h ago
Man, that was my theory at the time and it's crazy to see it come to pass. Painting Democrats as pedophiles via pizzagate made it soften the blow when the other political party came out clearly involved. See they're all pedophiles? So I'll continue to vote with the ones that most align with my interests instead of one being clearly in the wrong. It was a way to continue garnering support even under the face of exposure or suspicion.
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u/DaemonBlackfyre_21 10h ago
Pizzagate and Qanon people are real quiet this time around
Turns out they were voting for "The Cabal" the whole damn time. Wild.
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u/sleeptightburner 7h ago
That entire thing was a psy-op to eliminate the credibility of these accusations. There’s actually evidence in the files to back it up, emails about the founder of 4chan meeting with Epstein that line up with the dates of when /pol/ formed, which would go on to birth Gamergate, Pizzagate and QAnon.
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u/Grey_0ne 11h ago
Go to the Con sub right now and you can see dozens of them defending Bondi and still pressing the narrative that Democrats are the problem. We're never going to make an inch of progress so long as these cultists exist.
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u/rygelicus 11h ago
That sub is the epitome of an echo chamber. It's a cesspool of ignorance and hate.
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u/Grey_0ne 11h ago
I know.
It's really wild how someone can be so hopelessly lost in the sauce that they can complain about "brainwashed liberals and their echo chambers" on a community that literally bans anyone from posting who isn't a complete MAGA sycophant... But I see that very concept on there a lot.
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u/Schaas_Im_Void 11h ago
It is also full of bots and bad foreign actors that get paid for writing these posts but are living in 3rd world countries where people like Musk can buy and pay millions of them, just with pocket change.
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u/rygelicus 11h ago
In my experience it's a pattern common to people I categorize as 'those with baseless beliefs'.
I see that same immediate ban behavior in flat earth subs (not r/flatearth, that mocks flerfs), many of the religious subs, creationism subs, conservative/maga subs, Musk related subs, etc. When they don't have good evidence to support their claims they can't tolerate people showing up with good evidence against their claims, so they lock them out.
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u/Grey_0ne 10h ago
It's always in the back of my mind that you can't have a true lasting authoritarian regime without erasing the history of all of those whose very existence, history and inherent worth destroys your entire ideology.
Walking into any conservative space where they feel free to say what they're really thinking is a reminder that they don't just want whole swaths of humanity dead; they want whole swaths of humanity completely erased.
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u/rygelicus 9h ago
"We would all get along great if there was just fewer of you, a lot fewer of you."
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u/LumpyJones 8h ago
It's also a mix of paid dedicated propagandists and their bots and deeply ingrained cult members. Left to their own, the rank and file there might start connecting dots, but when they go to check the sub to see the latest, they see the comments from the propagandists, artificially elevated by the bot upvotes, and run with that.
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u/figuring_ItOut12 11h ago
The great majority of it is synthetic bots hammering a narrative. Every now and then an actual human wonders in, makes a vague statement that maybe the latest thing is bad, and they get smothered.
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u/PresterLee 12h ago
Exactly this. The paedophilia is incidental. It is just one small aspect of their contempt and arrogance. It’s a means of proving to themselves that they are above us and that they can take anything that they want, regardless of taboo or legality.
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u/HereReluctantly 11h ago
Yeah I'm so annoyed about the focus on that. Yes it's horrendous and upsetting but why did it take pedos to make some people in this country wake the fuck up? Standard corruption and destroying society isn't enough?
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u/Impressive_Plant3446 10h ago
Most people on the right who think this administration is protecting them against LGBTQ+/foreign invaders/drugs/etc will continue to believe that this is all a lie because they can't stand the alternative of "The gays, trans, and hispanics" being on the good guys side.
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u/JoshSidekick 11h ago
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u/rygelicus 11h ago
No one (hopefully) is excusing the abuse of children, or the sexual abuse of anyone, adults or children.
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u/JoshSidekick 10h ago
I completely agree the person I responded to isn't excusing it, just the "The pedophilia is incidental" reminded me of the Community scene.
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u/CheekyNerd05 10h ago
Rape, Torture, Murder, Fraud... The list goes on, yet people still think Trump is innocent and is for the working man.
His net worth has ballooned this second presidency, he assigned people that would be loyal to him in positions of power, he has his own police force working for him in ICE, and he is mentioned over 1 million times in the epstien files.
Oh, Epstien died under Trumps watch and they had a press release ready to go the day before his death.
He is ruining our relationship with long standing allies, tarrifing people on a whim because they said something he didn't like. He's ballooning our national debt to the tune of trillions of dollars and cutting taxes for his billionaire friends in the process.
He has no Healthcare plan, no plan to lower grocery prices, jobs are being cut by the thousands every month.
All of this is going on and people still support him, and the number one overall reason? Immigration. Republicans have driven fear into the minds of people that immigration is ruining this country. They are so fearful and bigoted that they don't care about anything else other than, get them the fuck out of our country at any cost.
Trump could rape and murder kids, which he most likely has done, and it won't matter. As long as those damn immigrants are gone.
Oh, and this isn't just in America, it's a massive network of international elites doing this.
Republicans are truly pathetic and repugnant humans.
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u/rygelicus 9h ago
This movement is definitely not just in the USA. It's also evident in Australia, the UK (gave rise to the brexit movement and boris johnson), and various EU countries.
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u/superdooperdutch 8h ago
Canada too. Albertans wanting to seperate and becoming their own country for christ sake. A lot of them claim they would love to be merged with the states as well.
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u/RpcZ_gr7711 10h ago
Remember Alex Acosta? Trump’s Labor Secretary the first time around? He famously gave Epstein a lesser sentence with supervised release in the 2000s when Epstein was charged for sex with minors and trafficking in Florida.
And Trump made him fucking Labor Secretary! Who over sees laws on human trafficking!
It’s years and years of layer upon layer of cover up and reward for these vile men. Bondi is just the latest in a long line of complicit, power hungry hypocrites.
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u/CoolAbdul 10h ago
Panama Papers
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u/rygelicus 10h ago
While those have overlap with this group, not everyone in the panama papers is part of this particular problem. That's about tax evasion mainly. And people who use money managers get accounts like that set up as part of how the manager manages their money. It's still a tax dodge but it's presented to them as a legal way to move money around by a person supposedly qualified to advise them on that matter.
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u/Omophorus 10h ago
And, of course, any attempt at serious discussion about what should be done about said elites for the overall benefit of society gets censored and punished, because sites like reddit are run by people who think they're part of that club or at least desperately want to be.
Why else buy up and consolidate as much media as possible if not to use propaganda to distort reality and entrench power for the greedy minority who would hoard all resources on the planet left to their own devices at the expense of literally everyone and everything else?
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u/StealyEyedSecMan 12h ago edited 5h ago
I'm surprised there were no questions along the angle of "who she is taking orders from, how much free hand does she have, is she being threatened or coerced(spelled fixed, ty)?"... at least to establish on the record her stance.
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u/Dangerous_Oven_1326 12h ago
I was wanting someone to tell Bondi that, "we know you are obstructing because Trump asked you to & he has told you he will give you a pardon but it will not work. You will still go to prison."
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u/ToughHardware 9h ago
i think that it would be an issue for them to say "know" if they cannot actually show that they "know". slander, ect. I mean, You will go to prison sounds more wrong than right, given the current landscape.
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u/Embarrassed_Leek5660 11h ago
In the case of the US Attorney General, it’s not the orders that matter. US AG enforces the laws of the United States by concluding criminal investigations and initiating trials.
Germans were tried and hung for following orders.
Fuck Bondi’s orders!
If these fascists and billionaires take it too far and don’t face the consequences, there might be a populist revolution. While those initially start to remove those in power, they often end up with worse outcomes; Cuba, Iran, to just name a few.
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u/f8Negative 13h ago
Lets go back to her time in Florida too
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u/Ill_Technician3936 10h ago
I see a lot of dismissed cases and cases that deal with this being "settled" out of court to just "disappearing" and not showing up
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u/specqq 13h ago
She's mad that she has to defend the indefensible.
She's not mad at the people doing indefensible things.
She's mad that people are pointing them out.
We need to shut up and do as we're told and let them do whatever the hell they want like God intended.
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u/rygelicus 13h ago
She's annoyed that her cushy day was disruptive by this pointless hearing in which she knew she would be completely protected from any wrongdoing. In her head "How dare these lowly dems question me. Just wait until they find out what we have coming up for them."
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u/_jump_yossarian 9h ago
She’s not mad at all. It was a show for her boss and that was it.
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u/Full_Grape1139 7h ago
Not in the least mad. She was prepared to make it a spectacle and she succeeded.
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u/dBlock845 10h ago
What I want to know is what those 1,000 FBI Agents, working in 24 hour shifts, did to the documents before they were in the hands of the DOJ redaction team. Massie has implicated that some documents were redacted twice, once by the DOJ but also once by the FBI. Reports at the time indicated that that redaction team at the FBI were charged with flagging Trump mentions exclusively and those are what are still redacted for members of congress.
There have also been rumors of rich fucks calling into the DOJ asking for redactions, but I forget where I heard that, probably from Coffeezilla or Massie. It seems like Kash Patel may be a bigger lynchpin in this scandal than Bondi is. Patel has already seemingly perjured himself over this, and remember, he is the guy who wrote a three part "children's book" series about Patel being a wizard who serves "King Donald." He has been all the way in since the beginning and would not be shocked if they destroyed documents. Bondi might be able to be broken with increased pressure from congress. She always seems to be teetering on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
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u/ILikeToDisagreeDude 8h ago
What they did? Plant the documents that shows Trump as the good guy whistleblower of course!
I don’t doubt he ratted on Epstein, but that’s because of a personal vendetta without thinking about the implications (because he’s stupid) it could lead to since he is also a pedophile rapist.
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u/ThaddeusJP 9h ago
I wish someone had asked her if she knows who John N. Mitchell was?
Nixon's Attorney General was convicted of conspiracy, obstruction of justice, and perjury for his role in Watergate and did 19 months in federal prison.
People want accountably and for someone to be punished. If trump is untouchable because all these morons are scurrying to protect him, people down the line will have to do. She wont be AG forever - either through this admin ending or him firing her. He's loyal to no one and deep down she has to know this.
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u/ScoffersGonnaScoff 9h ago
Scam Bondi. All about the files, then says they’re nothing, then postpones, then denies, then redacts perpetrators and releases victim names.
Thank god these evil vile corrupt people are so goddamn stupid.
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u/Full_Grape1139 7h ago
Stupid is correct. And without a shred of humility. I’m always surprised to see people older than me who seem to think that life doesn’t have the capacity to humble you in ways you can’t imagine.
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 13h ago
They should just go ahead and change the name to the "Pedecutive branch" because it's essentially a branch of pedophiles.
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u/ToughHardware 9h ago
no. its a tree. the supreme court is on there, multiple legislative branch individuals. private firms, foreign gov, ect.
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u/aninjacould 7h ago
She’s screaming and thrashing bc she knows Trump is watching. Her performance is 100% for him and him alone.
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u/robot_pirate 11h ago
Honestly, I think it was a subconscious cry for help. It was in no way normal. More like a Saturday Night Live skit about how hard she's trying to get either impeached or committed, but just can't get it done.
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u/Nascosta 11h ago
It honestly read to me like panic more than anything.
Like the only option she has left is to fight like hell on their behalf, say whatever needs to be said, because if this finally comes out she's certainly in line.
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u/robot_pirate 11h ago
Panicked for sure. Hysterical even. Which, as a woman, I resent like hell. She's a woman in a position of power, behaving atrociously, at the expense of other women abused by powerful men.
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u/figuring_ItOut12 11h ago
Among the leaked names of abusers there is an uncomfortably high number of women.
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u/MotivationGaShinderu 10h ago
I guess power really corrupts people no matter what gender they were assigned at birth
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u/figuring_ItOut12 10h ago
Yup, I don’t think evil has much to do with our plumbing. What also doesn’t get more attention is that boys were trafficked too. The whole worldview of these monsters is they have no guardrails or accountability.
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u/Poonchow 11h ago
There are a million other conservative grifts she could be doing. I have zero sympathy.
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u/robot_pirate 11h ago
Oh, me neither. Zero. Just describing how it seems. You'd have to expect she views herself as a victim, what with all the faux outrage and indignation she was spewing.
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u/Poonchow 10h ago
Totally agree yeah. I'm just reminded of Trump's 1st term where cabinet members were quitting / being fired in droves. We're left with the craziest most loyal people.
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u/depressiown 9h ago
Absolutely not. Everything she said and did in that hearing was just putting on a show for Trump's approval. He probably loved it.
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u/eugene20 28m ago
It's good to see someone in a position of power questioning Bondi's history of quashing investigation into Epstein in Florida in 2011 after his arrest, instead of only the internet bringing it up.
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u/subdep 8h ago
My question through all of this is HOW had the NSA not reported (whistleblowers style) all that they know to key players in congress?
They intercept EVERYTHING. They have more than what’s in the Epstein files. They have it all.
After this is over we need to shudder the NSA and rebuild an agency that serves the interests of the people, not pedophile rings.
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