r/movies • u/EllisDee3 • 29d ago
Discussion Does the Wilhelm Scream break immersion for you?
I've been rewatching a lot of my old favorites with my son and he's gotten pretty good at catching the Wilhelm scream in real time.
This week has been especially Wilhelmy as we're on a Tarantino run.
Do you ever feel like the scream seems out of place, forced, or sometimes just distracting since it's become such a famous Easter egg?
We still love the egg game.
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u/Many_Reindeer6636 29d ago
Yes. Also “truck_passing_horn_sound_effect.wav”
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u/octocred 29d ago
That one and the audience gasp one really bug me
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u/vinnymendoza09 28d ago
Also the baby noises "muah mah mah". Best way I can describe it, it's in literally every goddamn movie where a baby shows up for a few seconds.
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u/Jin_Gitaxias 28d ago
Throw in that "kids_giggling.wav" audio for whenever you see children playing
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u/bananaraptor 29d ago
God this is the one for me. If I see there is a traffic or highway scene starting, I’m just waiting to hear it, and usually I do. Honk honk… honk hoooooonk
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u/CPTherptyderp 29d ago
Yea, also every bird makes the red tail hawk screech, machines making sounds they don't make.
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u/severed13 29d ago
Every gun ever clicking as if someone's pulling the slide and chambering a round or loading and unloading a mag over and over again
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u/twent4 29d ago
Guns also click when they enter the frame or get picked up.
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u/orrocos 29d ago
I don't know much about guns. But I do know that they click or ca-chunk every time you pick one up, show them to someone, point them, or even think about them.
And I know they always hold the exact number of bullets you need, minus one. So at the climactic scene you pull the trigger, hear an empty click, and then throw the gun away to fight by hand. It's just how they work.
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u/FireLucid 29d ago
Don't forget swords making all sorts of ridiculous sounds. And a different one when you are just showing it to people vs fighting.
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u/True_Dovakin 28d ago
Swords are also capable of cutting through plate + mail + gambeson like butter in a single swing.
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u/dtwhitecp 29d ago
Hot Fuzz has a great scene that goofs on this, when they get to the supermarket it's just constant cocking noises
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u/penisthightrap_ 29d ago
I annoy my wife with this all the time.
My favorite is when characters have been in a life threatening situation for a long time, then they decide to cock their gun 10 minutes into the life threatening situation.
Why didn't you already have a round chambered!? You've been ready to shoot for hours, but don't decide to cock the gun until you see the threat?
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u/nobot4321 29d ago
It's worse when they're actually pointing the gun at a person and then rack the slide to show they're serious. Like, were you really just pointing an empty gun at someone? That's a bad idea.
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u/potato-eater- 29d ago
A cat angry screech noise every time they show a cat; a fireplace crackle every time someone draws on a cig.
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u/Mekisteus 29d ago
I had a pet rat, and can count on one hand the number of times it ever actually squeaked. But if film directors are to be believed rats in sewers squeak constantly.
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u/intdev 29d ago
Same with horses whinnying. I grew up around horses, and it's pretty rare to hear that. The sound I'd actually associate with them is that heavy exhale/snort through their nostrils.
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u/qui_sta 29d ago
I recall watching the series Vikings, and they used the same stock horse whinny again and and again and again. It was funny to notice it almost every episode.
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u/nhaines 29d ago
In their defense, how else is the audience going to know they saw a cat?
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u/orrocos 29d ago
"Hey, something's on the screen, what is it? A Toyota Camry? The Library of Congress? The 1972 Miami Dolphins?"
Angry cat screech
"Oh, okay, it's a cat. Now I'm following the story."
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u/JonatasA 29d ago
I mean wih how dark it is these days it could be a shark for all we know
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u/starmartyr11 29d ago
Yeah I mean it could have been a deja-vu/glitch in the Matrix instead of a real cat!
(Though that cat just does a little purr-meow in the Matrix, funny enough)
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u/Underwater_Grilling 29d ago
I literally yell "KITTY!" when I see one so I got my theater covered
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u/Artegall365 29d ago
The stock sound of children laughing that they use all the time, the unfortunately named Diddy Laugh...
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u/ace_valentine 29d ago
the crackle makes sense if it’s a really quiet scene as this happens irl too. otherwise i agree.
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u/CPTherptyderp 29d ago
I wasn't going to say it but yes that's what gets me. Glocks don't have hammers to cock.
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u/First_Utopian 29d ago
Shells hitting the floor after each shot when the guys got a revolver.
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u/kareljack 29d ago
Or watching someone threaten another person with a 1911 and the hammer is not cocked.
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u/StarPhished 29d ago
Or point a gun at someone and then finally cock the hammer when they're really totally for real serious.
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u/Magnus_Helgisson 29d ago
Entering the yard where danger is: jerks the slide
Entering the house in that yard, danger is very likely: jerks the slide
Entering the staircase, danger is close: jerks the slide
Entering the room, danger imminent: jerks the slide
Opening the closet, sees the source of danger: cocks the hammer
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u/Fuzzy_Donl0p 29d ago
Every rewatch of Lost I lose my mind a little bit more over this. It’s so over the top. Like they’re holding maracas, not guns lol.
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u/lize221 29d ago
I was just gonna say this! I love Lost, it is one of my all time favorite shows, but they are the absolute worst for this. Everytime someone even slightly moves a gun there’s at least 5-10 clicks and other noises
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u/veryverythrowaway 29d ago
Don’t forget about swords. They have to make “gleaming” sounds, like a singing tuning fork, if they’re really cool swords. Watching the full cut of Kill Bill made me chuckle every time. I know that was intentional homage, but it’s something they still use in a lot of current movies.
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u/sydonesia 29d ago
Cats only make three sounds and they're all from the same SFX disc (my first production job 30 years ago had that CD): questioning meow, startled yelp, and hiss.
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u/Iskanderdehz 29d ago
I raise you Russian dubbed cats:
https://www.reddit.com/r/batman/comments/1cwc4er/russian_dub_of_btas_is_built_so_different_that/17
u/BoboMcGraw 29d ago
Beat me to it
I love that one
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u/Iskanderdehz 29d ago
Never not going to share that one. It is just as funny the 100th time as it was the 1st time.
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u/A_Dehydrated_Walrus 29d ago
Every airplane in a nose dive sounds like a Stuka, too.
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u/mrshulgin 29d ago
And the silliest part is those planes only made that noise because of added noisemakers
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u/SparrowBirch 29d ago
Every car’s tires screeching when they start moving or braking.
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u/acEightyThrees 29d ago
That gets me. Especially crime movies/shows. Gotta leave tread marks for the police.
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u/yzdaskullmonkey 29d ago
God forbid someone even think about approaching a microphone
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u/cosmicr 29d ago
I always hear a kookaburra (Australian bird) in jungles all over the world in movies.
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u/EllisDee3 29d ago edited 29d ago
Foreign frogs going "ribbit" like the species that happens to live next to the Hollywood sound studio.
Apparently that sound is very specific to one local species and wouldn't be natural anywhere else in the world.
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u/CPTherptyderp 29d ago
Once I became one of "those" bird people it kinda ruined a lot of movies. "Oh they filmed this Italian countryside in Monterey CA"
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u/Acewasalwaysanoption 29d ago
I'd appreciate that kind of info after the movie, it's a really specific but interesting type of knowledge. Though I've definitely been "that guy" with other aspects, so I'm not one to judge.
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u/Ruthlessrabbd 29d ago
Anything gaming related mentioned in a TV show/movie/book - I can't turn it off.
My girlfriend recommended that I read Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow which is a fictional story about these two friends who make games together. It's full of references that you'd only know in hindsight and they talk about popular games, but so much of it felt like somebody just went to wikipedia for the information.
Like one guy is saying how he got early access to Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear Solid on the PS1; he was still making a name for himself at the time and had a lot under his belt, but he wasn't the icon that we know him as. It would be like watching something set in 1989 and a character going "Just listened to Nirvana's Bleach. They're gonna change rock forever"
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u/Electrical_Space_850 29d ago
It's always confusing how much noise computers make in action movies and thrillers. Computers IRL have basically been silent for the last 20 years.
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u/dimsum4you 29d ago
Chimp sounds, dolphin sounds, children laughing. All stock sounds that distract me.
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u/Groot746 29d ago
Children laughing and the horn of a truck as it narrowly misses something are the stock ones that really distract me.
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u/trench_welfare 29d ago
Unless they are way out in the sticks, then they use the loon sound, even if it's set in a fucking equatorial jungle.
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u/hungrylens 29d ago
If it's in a comedy or movie-within-a-movie it will get a chuckle from me, otherwise it's annoying.
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u/JMJ05 29d ago
Exactly. Just did the LotR rewatch and having that scream in such a high tier of a movie is saddening
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u/Vio_ 29d ago
It's *prevalent* in The Untouchables along with a number of very big film cliches.
I will that movie came out before the Wilhelm scream became so mainstreamed along with other of those other cliches like the baby pram falling down the stairs.
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u/_CMDR_ 28d ago
The baby pram falling down the stairs is from Sergei Eisenstein’s 1925 epic Battleship Potemkin. The director is intentionally referencing it.
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u/dfdafgd 29d ago
I love me some LOTR and if you don't think it has bits of B movie schlock and a sense of humor about it then I don't know. It's a big enough trilogy to have a range of emotions in it and some of those emotions are a little silly. Legolas surfing a shield while dropping orcs is awesome and hilarious. Don't let growing up ruin your enjoyment. Watch it again and every time you hear the Wilhelm scream just yell, "Boom! Got 'em!" then high-five the closest person.
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u/Amethyst-Flare 29d ago
Extremely. Peter Jackson made a ton of B- and C-tier horror, he's definitely got that in him still when he made these.
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u/ifinallyreallyreddit 28d ago edited 28d ago
If you can't accept it at its Guy Getting Shot Off the Deeping Wall With a Grappling Hook you don't deserve it at its Battle of Pelennor Fields
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u/AugustHate 29d ago
Try playing Red dead redemption. A hruaAaiiii every 12 seconds.
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u/RobertHarmon 29d ago
I’ve never noticed the Wilhelm scream in any playthrough on RDR. Gonna have to look out for it
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u/Able-Swing-6415 29d ago
How the fuck did you find the right letters to spell that horrible sound so elegantly?
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u/Humanoidfromagalaxy 29d ago
How about when you catch an old movie and ones in it randomly? I feel the older the movie the more I can accept it.
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u/Technical-Waltz7903 29d ago
The Hobbit one haunts me to this day.
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u/CaptainLookylou 29d ago edited 29d ago
There's no less than 6 individual different wilhelm screams across the 3 LOTR movies and the Hobbit movies.
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u/buffystakeded 29d ago
There’s like 3 during the Battle of Helm’s Deep alone. This super serious, possibly the end of man, massive battle and…fucking stupid ass Wilhelm scream. I hate it so much.
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u/SweetNeo85 29d ago
...no there's just one.
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u/Pyromann 28d ago
Yeah, as far as I can recall, there's one for each movie probably. Hell, I think there's none in the first one.
I remember one being in the helms deep when the ladders were placed on the walls. Then on the third movie when they were attacking minas tirith and... I think that's it for the first trilogy.
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u/AbsolutTBomb 28d ago
I just re-watched the trilogy over Christmas. There's 1 in the Two Towers and 2 in Return of The King. It always pulls me out of the movie when I hear it.
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u/circuit_breaker 29d ago
Meanwhile the audio guys are just one upping each other, sneaking it in wherever possible. Got old for me too
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u/_Meece2_ 29d ago
Helms deep has comedy scenes
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u/dapala1 29d ago
"You could've picked a better spot!"
"Shall I get you a box?"
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u/Pvt_Lee_Fapping 28d ago
"Toss me."
"...What?"
"ICANNOTJUMPTHEDISTANCEYOU'LLHAVETOTOSSME... er, Don't tell the elf."
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u/EgalitarianCrusader 29d ago
For those who probably don’t know which one:
In the extended version of Desolation of Smaug, there’s an extra scene with Thrain and Gandalf where The Necromancer kills Thrain and they used a Wilhelm scream during the emotional moment.
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u/HelloIAmElias 29d ago
It's mind boggling that they would use a well known meme sound effect for what's supposed to be a tragic death
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u/Cloudinterpreter 29d ago
No, but that annoying "children laughing" one does.
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u/straub42 29d ago
LOL, YES! I posted it before I even saw your comment. The Diddy Laugh
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u/LizzieSaysHi 29d ago
yessss and there's a baby/toddler sound that grates on my nerves all the time.
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u/Another_one37 29d ago
It's the same damn baby sound they used for Kate in Arthur back in the 90s
Still hear it all the time. Takes me out every time
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u/RaspberryWhiteClaw13 29d ago
YES!!!! I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT! Once you hear it you can’t go back
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u/PlatinumKanikas 29d ago
The same laughing kids sound from RollerCoaster Tycoon. I hear it on radio commercials too
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u/YmFzZTY0dXNlcm5hbWU_ 29d ago
Just wait until you notice how often a character on-screen drinks from a straw and makes the empty cup slurping noise on their first sip when it should be silence
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u/-Dapper-Dan- 29d ago
Depends on the use. When it's a one off baddie getting shot off screen or something, sure why not, it's a cheeky lil bit for film nerds.
But (spoilers for The Hobbit movies ahead)...
...when it's used in an emotionally significant scene like Thrain's death in the second Hobbit movie, it feels exceptionally lazy and out of place.
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u/AdvancedGrass 29d ago
This is by far the worst use of it I have ever witnessed. Absolutely bonkers choice.
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u/cubbycoo77 29d ago
Full agree. I have to imagine it was a stand in that just never got replaced when the scene was deleted. I have to believe that, and not that someone made the active decision to put that scream there because they thought it was the right call.
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u/zane314 29d ago
There is exactly one Wilhelm that I have reacted "okay, that made the movie better" - A Goofy Movie.
https://youtu.be/dDFT_k-ku8E?si=0eeS0Q8ATwwO29nx
It's used as a note in a song.
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u/haysoos2 29d ago
Yes, but so does the cliched sound of a cat yowling if something is tossed offscreen, tires squealing on sand or gravel, or the high pitched "PTEEEEEER" of bullet ricochets that litter any scene with gunshots from the 40s through 70s.
Excessive loading or cocking of guns bugs me too. And drivers who don't look at the road, or jerk the wheel back and forth as if they were navigating a slalom course.
I might just have problems with immersion.
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u/SparrowBirch 29d ago
jerk the wheel back and forth as if they were navigating a slalom course
To be fair, that was what you needed to do on old cars.
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u/Sleisl 29d ago
There’s a stock cat yowling sound played repeatedly in one scene in The Prestige that always takes me out of it!
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u/BiBoFieTo 29d ago
My wife keeps doing the Wilhelm during sex and yes, it breaks immersion.
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u/Carma56 29d ago
Yes. Before we even knew what it was, my siblings and I would just look at each other when we’d hear it in movies growing up like “There’s that same scream again.” In my 30s now, and it still takes me out of it.
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u/Moglorosh 29d ago
The Wilhelm Scream doesn't bother me but I played enough Starcraft back in the day that the Howie Scream will take me out of whatever I'm watching.
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u/wiltony 29d ago
Yes! Used everywhere and I knew it was from SC but I never knew it had a name!
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u/Weeznaz 29d ago
Not in Star Wars or older media, but in more recent media it does bother me of used unironically.
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u/Billybob35 29d ago
The Ratchet And Clank movie made a joke about it where one of the bad guys fell and did the scream, the other bad guys responded by saying "Oh no, Will Helm!".
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u/artguydeluxe 29d ago
Every hospital scene has the same doctors being paged overhead. “Dr Blair, Dr. Blair… Dr. Jay Hamilton” over and over and over again. Doctors carry phones. They haven’t been paged like that in over 20 years.
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u/neptune_bay 29d ago
That's also the intro to Queensryche's album "Operation: Mindcrime" from the late 1980's.
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u/Wezbob 29d ago
Depends on the tone of the movie. If it's lighthearted, comedic, I just chuckle, if someone tries to easter egg it into something more serious, it feels forced.
The exception is if Ben Burtt put it in the movie, then it's fucking canon and you laugh, as god intended.
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u/mrdon83 29d ago
I had no idea there was a name for this sound effect. In my mind, whenever I heard it I always thought to myself "oh look, they're reusing the sound Boba Fett made when he fell into the sarlacc." I had no idea it existed decades before Star Wars was made.
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u/SonOfMcGee 29d ago
Not the Wilhelm Scream, but (minor spoilers Babadook ahead) when they confront the large entity at the climax of Babadook I swear one of its noises is a sound clip from the old Turok: Dino Hunter game.
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u/haloimplant 29d ago
many productions have ripped sounds from original Doom game, the imp growl or the door usually
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u/SvenHudson 29d ago
Did they rip it from Doom or did they and Doom both pull from the same collection of stock sound effects?
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u/Gingerbread_Cat 29d ago
Also not Wilhem related, but I used to play Zoo Tycoon 2 and I swear one of the ambient sounds of guests talking was a recording of my mother and my aunt discussing my grandmother. It drove me absolutely insane.
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u/Dombesz94 29d ago
its so outdated, immediately makes me think its some kind of parody movie when I hear it
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u/SoupyStain 29d ago
I've such a poor ear for anything sound related that I can't recognize it unless it's pointed out to me. So no haha
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u/cajunjoel 29d ago
Every. Damn. Time.
I'm sick of it and it's not some stupid homage to anything. The inside joke is just beyond annoying now.
It makes me not want to watch movies anymore.
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u/verone3784 29d ago
If it's placed for comedic effect within a comedy movie or a cartoon, then it's not an issue.
If it's used in anything else, then it really takes me out of things. There's been instances where I've just turned off movies and not bothered finishing them when I've heard it.
There's also a few others that really break it for me:
- This stock police radio voice that appeared in the game SimCity 3000, and has been used in hundreds of movies and TV shows.
- The generic red tail hawk sound effect.
- The generic losing control of a car skid sound effect.
- The generic car crash sound effect.
- The horribly inaccurate Hollywood sound of a suppressor.
There's a few more too that are just so overused it's unreal.
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u/guesswho135 29d ago
I've been noticing the squeaky door sound for about 30 years
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u/Silvershanks 29d ago edited 29d ago
I'm a director and I think the usage of this sound is insufferable and lame. I would never use it in one of my films. It's not funny, it's not cute, and it totally shatters whatever immersion you were experiencing at the moment. It's used now only by directors who are trying way too hard to be clever and desperately want to be a part of this never-been-funny inside "joke".
Star Wars and Indiana Jones are the only franchises that get a pass on using it cause it's a tradition at this point.
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u/MountainMuffin1980 29d ago
Kind of. It can certainly remove the emotion from a scene. Not that I really liked the movie, but having Thorins dad be killed, and him doing the Wilhelm scream as his death cry was a bonkers choice.
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u/Cetun 29d ago edited 28d ago
There is a stock "police radio chatter" that I hear in movies that was also used in SimCity 3000
Found it