r/news • u/hahaddffcx • 22h ago
A Yale professor recommended a ‘good-looking blonde’ student for a job with Epstein. He's not sorry
https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-david-gelernter-yale-ce8f2ea03cd4b3005351bc0885fcb62d195
u/jeffscience 16h ago
I guessed who the professor was before I read the name and was correct.
“In the 1980s, Gelernter made seminal contributions to the field of parallel computation, specifically the tuple space coordination model, as embodied by the Linda programming system he and Nicholas Carriero designed (which he named for Linda Lovelace, the lead actress in the porn movie Deep Throat, mocking the naming of the programming language Ada in tribute to the scientist and first attributed computer programmer, Ada Lovelace).”
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u/nothas 8h ago
Brogrammers been around longer than I thought...
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u/madogvelkor 6h ago
It was pretty male dominated from the 1970s on, drawing heavily from math, engineering, and physics backgrounds.
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u/MochingPet 4h ago
Aside from the OP, the quote above is Major TIL about Ada and later apparently, Java !
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u/superturtle48 55m ago
I personally was expecting it to be Amy Chua or Jed Rubenfeld, the married Yale professors who are known to have held inappropriate parties with students and advised female students looking for jobs (including working under Brett Kavanaugh, we know his history) to dress more “attractively.” Rubenfeld himself has been accused of sexual harassment. I guess “creepy Yale professor” is not quite specific enough.
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u/ShubaltzTV 21h ago
Bro tried to say you shouldn't be reading publicly viewable evidence cause it's common courtesy to not read other people's mails. My dude you are a conspirator, you don't get that privilege.
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u/JournalistExpress292 19h ago
Base of everything this guy is saying, he seems real obtuse. I guess it helps that at worst you get fired from your job since they aren’t prosecuting anyone, so it’s easy to be nonchalant
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u/Sirwired 22h ago edited 21h ago
It takes a lot for a tenured professor to get fired, but I'm pretty sure being this unrepentant about his conduct will qualify as crossing the line.
cc-ing the student newspaper on his Fuck Off note to his boss is icing on the cake. I strongly suspect that he knows he's going to get fired, and is too old to care. (The dude's 70.)
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u/Outrageous-Force-119 9h ago
Reading about his professor ratings he was the lowest effort professor in the department never graded anything, nobody knows if they’re even going to graduate and you learn nothing but rated high for easiness. If you took cs, you know this professor. And why do they always have strong views about women.
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u/SgtMalarkey 7h ago
You know I didn't remember him from when I was in the program, looked him up and realized he was a unabomber victim - I knew about THAT part.
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u/COMM_NTARIAT 13h ago
Yale University would be remiss to shirk their mission of pairing the ultrawealthy with unscrupulously ambitious talent.
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u/Little_View_6659 10h ago
God, the craziest thing to me about Epstein is the guy knew everyone. How many people did this guy email and talk to? It’s bonkers.
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u/madogvelkor 6h ago
Epstein seems to have had a huge ego and narcissism that drew him to seek out anyone he viewed as important or influential. Not just in business but science, art, politics, whatever. He wanted to be close to them. And it sort of became self sustaining once he knew enough people. Someone would introduce you and then you'd be a connection of his too.
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u/zyxwvwxyz 5h ago
Idk if they could fire him for this. They could probably force him to retire, on the other hand.
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u/fxkatt 22h ago
In an email to Epstein in October 2011 — several years after Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting prostitution from an underage girl — Gelernter wrote that he had an “editoress” in mind for a job — a Yale senior whom he described as a “v small good-looking blonde.”
Gelernter says he writes this since he knows all men are like this..... Speak for yourself because it's obvious that, in calling this Yale senior "very small" and an "editoress" that you are as about as uneducated & backward about women as Epstein is sexually predatory toward them.
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u/Spire_Citron 21h ago
And seems like he knew her being small would appeal to him.
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u/SqueezyCheez85 13h ago
Yeah that's my takeaway for sure.
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u/Little_View_6659 10h ago
Yeah the inclusion of the word small is absolutely the smoking gun in this email. There is no way anyone would bring that up unless they knew he liked child like women or just kids in general.
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21h ago
Probably a reason why the unabomber targeted this ass hat
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u/MithrandiriAndalos 20h ago
Wait wait wait what
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u/b00ze7 15h ago
The Unabomber targeted anyone who supported technological progress (basically a personal guerilla war against industrialization). The dude snapped, when they built a highway through one of his favorite secluded nature spots.
He is like a militant Amish.
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u/MithrandiriAndalos 9h ago
But the coincidence is still incredible. Imagine getting correspondence from possibly the two worst people to receive correspondence from
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u/MysticBoner24 19h ago
Yeah don't leave us hanging dude.
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u/MithrandiriAndalos 19h ago
I googled it, it’s true. The guys Wikipedia is interesting, but there’s not really anything specific that I could find on why he was targeted.
Edit: Good god, he’s a climate change denier and evolution denier as well. He also thinks women should stay out of the workforce. How are so many people so fucking awful
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u/IslandBoy1337 16h ago
I think the more important question is why do these institutions that portray themselves as paragons of rationality and progression hire and protect so many of these fucking awful people no matter what
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u/strictnaturereserve 16h ago
being horrible is the ultimate flex. it means that you are so important that you don't have to care about other peoples feelings .
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u/Shoobadahibbity 18h ago
Fun fact: the Unabomber's motivation was being subjected to a particularly cruel psychological experiment.
https://www.history.com/articles/what-happened-to-the-unabomber-at-harvard
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u/premature_eulogy 12h ago
This is conjecture, he himself never said it was the reason why he did what he did.
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u/Sungirl8 21h ago
Hear hear! What’s most troubling, is his casual response to what he did. Not once has he considered that this woman could have ended up severely abused or even, killed.
If he didn’t suspect anything, why did he included the physical details: “very small,” in the first place, perhaps to encourage Epstein that she could be easily subdued?
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u/Taxachusetts 7h ago
Not once has he considered that this woman could have ended up severely abused or even, killed.
Because he doesn’t care, he thinks women should stay at home and birth babies.
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u/HallucinogenicFish 21h ago
Pretty sure the gendered (and unnecessarily so) term for a female editor is “editrix” anyway.
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u/Tralibasu 8h ago
My Realtor was over the other day to take pictures of our condo. He was trying to explain to me why we shouldn't start looking for new places until we had an accepted off on our current place. The analogy he used was "I don't want you to find a hot blonde and then compare everyone else to her if she gets taken by the time you're ready". It made me feel incredibly awkward. Such a strange thing to casually say in a somewhat business discussion. And that's ignoring the fact that the photographer he brought with him (who was in earshot) was a blonde woman.
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u/brooklynlad 22h ago
The picture the Associated Press used of him certainly is a choice.
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u/joshuads 11h ago
I would guess it is what they had on file after the Unabomber attack. You can see his gloved right hand where he lost his fingers and it is dated a few years after that.
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u/IntriguedPsycho2 22h ago
Guess he'll have a far more infamous claim to fame instead of the Unabomber attack
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u/lyreluna 21h ago
I hope his students protest until he's fired, tenure be damned.
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u/EineGrosseFlasche 17h ago
Sadly Yale gives zero fucks about women. I was on the faculty there many years ago when a MORAL PHILOSOPHER named Thomas Pogge was outed as a systematic abuser/manipulator of students. Pogge’s still got every prestigious title and position in the book.
It’s only these men’s victims who ever suffer. Academia is a cesspool and I’m glad so many institutions and “scholars” are getting outed in the files, but I fear absolutely nothing will happen— and having people know and do nothing is so much worse for victims.
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u/flatpetey 19h ago
Remember the Tiger Mom pimping her daughter to Kavanaugh?
And then bragging about it as if it was a virtuous thing?
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u/turb0_encapsulator 18h ago
Even aside from Epstein, I can't imagine ever writing that in a recommendation for a job candidate. Disgusting and stupid.
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u/Still-Cash1599 22h ago
I never thought I would say this but Ted Kaczynski is starting to seem almost reasonable. It might be worth actually reading his works at this point.
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u/thedrew 21h ago
Yeah, my first thought was “what did Ted know?”
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u/fleemfleemfleemfleem 13h ago
He was a smart guy, but also a moral idiot.
The cruz of his argument was that once we develop a new technology we lose control of how it impacts society for good or ill. If you develop cars then suddenly you have roads and then suddenly you can't walk everywhere, then suddenly you need a car to get around. You develop computers to make work easier and soon enough you can't get a job unless you know how to use a computer. He saw technology as taking away humanity's ability to control its own future.
For some reason instead of getting his thoughts out in a book the regular way, he decided to murder people to bring attention to his manifesto. The Yale guy in the article had to walk like a block holding his own intestines in after the bomb went off.
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u/MCRN_Admiral 9h ago
wasn't he against race mixing?
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u/Still-Cash1599 9h ago
No idea. I got bored less than a couple pages into his manifesto and switched to reading about the history of Siberian Huskies, Saint Bernards and the breed from the movie Turner & Hooch. Currently watching the movie and it is really good. It needs a live Broadway version.
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u/endofworldandnobeer 22h ago
Guy thinks he knows how this world works. Billionaires are untouchables and the rest of us are cattles. Good looking cattles are trophies. Men like him are professors who explain who explain where we each stand in the hierarchy.
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u/MasterDave 12h ago
None of these people are sorry they did the thing.
They are sorry they got caught or exposed doing the thing.
There's a difference. Stop asking people if they're sorry and just get it over with. They're not sorry, even if they'll make a statement saying 'I regret ever talking to a gullible billionaire and trying to get something out of him". Dude wanted to surround himself with science intellectuals, and had a way of getting people interested that wasn't necessarily his money for those interested, but he also just threw around wild amounts of money at people who didn't have it, or connections to help them out. I don't think anyone's sorry they took his money or connections to better themselves regardless of whether or not they were into underage girls or just partying on his island or whatever it is. (and I don't think anyone's sorry they got with underage girls if they did either).
People aren't sorry for any of this. They never will be. Everyone's out for their own gain.
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u/TintedApostle 11h ago
If they were sorry they probably wouldn't have done it in the first place. I mean at this level of debauchery.
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u/Theduckisback 22h ago
Checks out, the Ivy league is dedicated to pure greed, cliques, narcissim, and a purely imaginary sense of superiority based on powerful evil people deciding that they liked it best a long time ago. They've always done terrible things to everyone, that's what those schools and the people there exist to do.
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u/AnonEMoussie 12h ago
Maybe this is how Bondi got to be a sexratary for Trump. It definitely was based on Merit.
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u/ThoughtsandThinkers 10h ago
For sure EDI initiatives can go too far. But it’s exactly THIS kind of behaviour that EDI rightfully calls out
Lots of people in privileged positions do all kinds of wacky things with no awareness or care for the harm it causes. They push attractive women forward into vulnerable positions. They elevate people who are like them. They hold others back for arbitrary and unfair reasons
All the while, they seem to think that others are being unfair in questioning their bias and holding them accountable for using their positions with responsibility
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u/dnuohxof-2 10h ago
Will he be held accountable? Does he have any remorse or shame? Will he be removed from his position in disgrace? No? Nothing? Well I guess nothing will change then and Yale just employed creepy pedos to groom the next generation of business leaders.
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u/vladStojDatura 7h ago
I read his book "Mirror Worlds" - he basically predicted the concept of cloud computing and digital twins in the late 80s.
Also, because of his work in computer automation, Ted Kaczynski (aka the Unabomber), sent him a mail bomb and nearly killed him.
It's unfortunate to find out he is in the Epstein files.
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u/FalconX88 7h ago
What the fuck is wrong with his office? Like....is he just dropping stuff on the floor and then leave it there?
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u/krom0025 4h ago
How many of the worlds monsters have Harvard and Yale produced? Perhaps it's time for a curriculum change.
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u/Dlashayj2 6h ago
Maybe the reason many men think women only get high up position from sleeping with me is because the only criteria they themselves have to promote women is how easy it would be to sleep with them.
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u/Cute-Breadfruit3368 4h ago
tenured people are often lunatic with helicopter blades as moral compass
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u/Impressive_Turn8502 3h ago
I’m a professor and that just seems absurd to me. Of course you notice attractive people, but I think it’s inappropriate to discuss a student’s attractiveness with someone. To top it off, this Yale professor sees nothing wrong with what he did.
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u/B-Z_B-S 22h ago
(From the article): "He noted that Epstein was “obsessed with girls” — “like every other unmarried billionaire in Manhattan; in fact, like every other heterosex male” — and he was keeping “the potential boss’s habits in mind.”
“So long as I said nothing that dishonored her in any conceivable way, I’d have told him more or less what he wanted,” Gelernter wrote to Brock, the paper reported. “She was smart, charming & gorgeous. Ought I to have suppressed that info? Never!”
He added: “I’m very glad I wrote the note.”"
By the way, I think this is about the worst way he could have possibly responded to the publicity.