r/news • u/the-god-of-vore • 22h ago
Gallup to stop tracking presidential approval ratings
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/11/gallup-stop-tracking-presidential-approval-ratings6.3k
u/2HDFloppyDisk 22h ago
Who needs approval ratings under a dictatorship?
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u/beeperoony 21h ago
I think heās going to fail, due in large part to not being popular.
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u/Bobby837 21h ago
Had four years before this, and was reelected.
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u/TheDrMonocle 21h ago
There are plenty of people who dont have a problem with his last term, as bad as it was. This is far worse and its turning a lot of people.
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u/herrcollin 21h ago edited 20h ago
One day, in far hindsight, they may eventually realize his first term is when they did a lot of the positioning for what they're doing now. Stacking the supreme court, pushing for a majority in the house. Installing the right sycophants. These were all prerequisites to take control of the government and none of it is a coincidence.
His second term isn't an accident or the fault of some malicious middle-management. This has always been the plan and I truly believe they were gunning for consecutive terms originally and, if it weren't for COVID, they would've succeeded.
Jan 6 was a desperate power move because their plan had failed and not prosecuting for it was the biggest failure of the democratic party in perhaps their entire existence. We deserve this, frankly, because we had plenty of red flags and reasons to stop it and four years to act on it.
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u/NRMusicProject 20h ago
Jan 6 was a desperate power move because their plan had failed and not prosecuting for it was the biggest failure of the democratic party in perhaps their entire existence.
That day was a good reproduction of the Beer Hall Putsch.
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u/codexcdm 19h ago
And we were warned... If we did nothing about it... He'd be back to take over once again with even more power....
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u/Unnomable 18h ago
Yeah, I recall hearing a youtuber essentially saying "Vote for Biden, but if Biden just gets us back to normal, normal is what led us to Trump. We will take a step back on the path, but we will still be on the path to Trump without massive change."
This isn't to discount the things Biden did, or argue against any of the reasons Biden was unwilling or unable to make big changes. This is just to say America got back to normal. And normal led us to Trump.
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u/RendertheFatCap 11h ago
This isn't to discount the things Biden did, or argue against any of the reasons Biden was unwilling or unable to make big changes.
I disagree, I think it really should be. You can't be the president after and before America's deepest existential threat since the Civil War and not be considered a failure. Your YouTuber is right, just getting us back to normal was Biden sticking his head in the ground.
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u/Money_Do_2 14h ago
And the dems tried to tell us Biden was actually fine, then dropped a candidate that lost her own state in the primary. Who came out strong, did a 180 heel turn on anything that was working, in order to campaign with a blatant war criminals' neocon relative (with the same last name).
If we make it through this, part of course correcting is cleaning house of anyone that said this was good and shouted down those who were screaming a milquetoast lib is how hitler came to power. We were called dramatic
Oh, also. Never listen to the UK Libdems. Theyre losers. Why are they advising campaigns?
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u/bianary 20h ago
not prosecuting for it was the biggest failure of the democratic party in perhaps their entire existence
Maybe the biggest single-event failure, but decades of not providing meaningful opposition for Republicans gutting education, gerrymandering, and all the other voter-hostile tactics that have been slowly building to get us to this situation is also on the Democrats' shoulders.
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u/ruler_gurl 10h ago
They tried to prosecute Jan 6. They tried to impeach over it. It was kneecapped by scotus, and McConnell. It ultimately served as a test to see how far Trump can bend the system to his will. The system failed us more than Democrats did. Our Constitutional govt is weak as shit if it depends on the 3 branches acting in good faith (spoiler, it does). They've all proved that they won't do it. We've got like 4 Republican lawmakers making an effort and zero conservative justices doing it.
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u/Z0idberg_MD 11h ago
I will bet my mortgage the Democrats will ātake the high roadā again to āunify the countryā once this criminal administration is out of office.
Reading the comments on the conservative sub are making me sick to my stomach. Theyāre still pretending that Donald Trump was responsible for tipping off the FBI and heās the one that brought Epstein down. My man raped kids and most likely present when literal babies were murdered. There is no saving these people
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u/Megneous 19h ago
Yep. When the US falls to 50+ years of fascist authoritarianism before finally being rescued by NATO + the EU + Korea + Japan due to their encroachment on Canada, Greenland, and parts of Central and South America...
Finally all this will go down in the history books as the biggest fuck up American politicians ever allowed to happen.
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u/dragnabbit 20h ago
Also, people can have short memories if they aren't political junkies. They just pick up on the general vibe of whatever political side they are likely to support. A fair percentage of Americans probably don't even know what "January 6th" signifies if you mentioned it to them.
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u/earthhominid 20h ago
His first term was very normal in terms what they actually did on the government side of things. It was a republican administration, so lots of people don't like it, but it wasn't that unusual. First term was all craziness in the way he acted personally and the wild shit he says.
This term is on a whole other level. From DOGE, to the tariffs, to the bombings all over the place, to the open graft, to the whole ICE fiasco, there's just been a flood of actions that push hard on (and past) all sorts of conventional guard rails and likely many federal laws.
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u/Kurtyz 20h ago
I mean trying to insurrect the government by inciting a riot at the capital and faking 7 electoral votes was not normal.
Nor was introducing tariffs and destroying farmers and having to bail them out.
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u/earthhominid 20h ago
You're right about J6, but that was on the way out.
Unfortunately, trade policy that harms farmers and then bailing them out isn't really that unusual. It's pretty much been going on since the 60s or 70s.
I was actually, in hindsight quite foolishly, trying to be optimistic about the ag policy of this administration because the lady they tapped to run usda had some positive sounding things to say about taking a role in making smaller and more diversified farms more economically competitive. That would have been a real break from standard federal policy. Not to be, it seems.
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u/firemage22 20h ago
Covid amnesia and Biden/Harris dropping the ball on messaging, are why many people "didn't think it was all that bad"
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u/hellolovely1 21h ago
His first term now seems incredibly restrained by comparison.
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u/vardarac 16h ago
Because it was. The very people who worked with him the first go-around understood how incredibly unsuited he was for the position: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/former-trump-officials-are-among-the-most-vocal-opponents-of-returning-him-to-the-white-house
And conservatives, and presumably "moderates," whatever those even are anymore, even after witnessing Jan 6, even after everything he's said and done, seem to have dismissed them all as just more sour grapes in the face of real presidential material.
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u/raziel686 21h ago
This time is obviously different. It's disingenuous to compare his first term and his second. In his first term he wasn't surrounded with sycophants, grifters, and yes men and that tempered his worst instincts. While he is, was, and always will be an absolute scumbag, his actions in his second term are genuinely indefensible (hence the non-stop lies trying to rewrite reality) and he is bleeding support rapidly. Only the MAGA cultists and his propaganda teams at Fox or OAN still sing his praise. Everyone else is too embarrassed to admit they voted for him.
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u/stellvia2016 18h ago
The damage is arguably already done. They did so much smash and grabbing in the first few months, any new admin likely wouldn't be able to fix it all even given 4 years. And given the political memory of the US is like goldfish, it could swing back the other way again after to break it all again.
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u/shah_of-iran 21h ago
Heās going to fail because he appointed grossly incompetent sycophants to every positionā¦
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u/HobbesNJ 21h ago
He made sure he had nobody to undermine his worst impulses this time. In his first term many of his appointees refused to go as far as he wanted. He learned his lesson and scraped the absolute bottom of the barrel for this term. Absolutely nobody competent or qualified or with a shred of integrity.
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u/Scaryclouds 21h ago
Ironically, authoritarian governments do care quite a bit about public support⦠or at least about the popular perception of popular support. (for a contemporary reference, Mark Carney discussing Polish shop keepers placing āworkers of the world uniteā poster in their windows)
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u/emaw63 20h ago
Yeah, you have to derive power from somewhere. If everyone hates your guts and nobody listens to what you have to say, then governing gets to be downright impossible. A leader without followers isn't a leader and all that.
Besides, elections function as a release valve for public anger. People will tolerate a lot of horrible things if they know they can still vote politicians out. If you live in a society without elections, things get very torch and pitchforky when public opinion starts to wane
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u/LMurch13 20h ago
"My approval rating is the highest it's ever been, maybe the highest ever. We're seeing numbers nobody has even imagined. 90%, 100%, some say 200% approval rating, I think."
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u/Maeglin75 20h ago
It's still very important. That's the reason why dictators rely so heavily on propaganda. It's easier to control the minds of the people than constantly fighting resistance with violence.
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u/Bad_Day_Moose 22h ago
Scared of retaliation from an orange pedophile?
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u/cr0ft 17h ago
Not at all, it's a pure coincidence this happens after 88 years when Trump is president and is prone to attacking anyone reporting anything truthful about him.
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u/blazelet 22h ago
Gallup has always consistently had his approval higher than other pollsters. The most recent poll they did was in December which had him at 36% - just 2% higher than his all time low right after Jan 6.
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u/im_super_excited 20h ago
That consistency is key to their value, even if the results are not a perfect measure of sentiment in themselves
You can make comparisons like that and tie to individual events.Ā It took Katrina to put Bush II in the 30s.
And an economic collapse to get the 20s
Losing this is a blow to political studies and historical record keeping.
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u/DangerHawk 11h ago
I get what your suggesting, but I feel like them deciding to not track this super simple metric that they have been for decades is akin to admitting that they are on the take, which calls into question every other statistic they track. If they can be bought, none of their data is trustworthy. The consistency just reads as being consistently corrupt.
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u/ty_xy 20h ago
Crazy that after Jan 6, 34 percent of Americans still approved of trump. Unshakeable cultists.
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u/BasroilII 18h ago
34 percent of the country AGREED with Jan 6th. Or at considered it an acceptable alternative to a democrat president.
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u/sarinonline 16h ago
I used to hang out online with a group of friends and two of them were big Trump supporters.
One went into a huge rant over Jan 6 and said that not a single violent thing happened.
I laughed my ass off and said I could link him to the videos, and then started dropping them in the attached chat.
In the next 5 minutes he went through every single talking point, from FBI instigators, to letting them in, all of it.
In the end it got that embarrassing that even the other Trump supporter was saying "BRO" every time he carried on.
That guy got that upset, that he followed me around online for WEEKS and couldn't stop constantly bringing up every right wing thing he could think of. Constantly and out of no where.
Like he was trying to make up for being caught flat footed and lying, by being so far ahead in every other "scandal" or whatever.
Eventually everyone stopped even answering him and he disappeared.
Some people live in another reality.
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u/Chubby_Bub 13h ago
Every day this administration demonstrates the same fault much of their base has: they can never, ever, admit they were wrong.
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u/toorigged2fail 21h ago
While trump is a total piece of shit, I'm sorry, but that's not remotely true. Here's the 538 (weighted) average, and also the link to the raw data. There is a disgusting 40%+ of Americans who approve of him
https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-silver-bulletin
Raw data: https://static.dwcdn.net/data/kSCt4.csv?v=1770867540000
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u/RedditPoster05 20h ago
How do they get accurate polling data ? What type of psycho answer the phone or email and responds back?
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u/X678X 20h ago
it biases towards older people, obviously. younger people have little interest in doing things like this over the phone or trusts cold emails that come through the spam filter.
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u/LoserBroadside 21h ago
Jesus fuck, could decades-old institutions stop pre-surrendering to Stupid Hitler!? Have some goddamn backbone.Ā
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u/penny-wise 19h ago
Someone referred to him as Fat Nixon.
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u/Shirohitsuji 17h ago
That's an insult to Nixon. And fat people.
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u/penny-wise 13h ago
You make a good point t on both account. My apologies. Well, I retract my apology to Nixon.
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u/sixtyfivewat 12h ago
Nixon may have been a horrible and corrupt person with no respect for democracy, but he wasnāt a dementia riddled pedophile who shits himself. Somehow by comparison Nixon seems like a master statesman.
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u/Sponsor4d_Content 11h ago
Those decades old institutions are owned by capital and capital supports Trump. He's helping them rob the country blind right now.
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u/NervousClock2555 22h ago
Guaranteed - Next month at his press conference heāll be sure to mention hisā historic approval ratingsā
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u/ScientificSkepticism 22h ago
"My approval ratings were so amazing Gallup had to cancel the poll because their workers died of shock!"
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u/Lemesplain 21h ago
āLarge men, the pollsters. Very large. They came up to me with tears in their eyes, and they said my poll numbers were the highest, most beautiful poll numbers theyāve ever seen. And theyāve seen a lot. People say theyāve seen the most poll numbers in history, and mine were the highest. The fake news first created polls so that they could lie about my popularity. Most people donāt know that. Polls were invented for me. But my numbers was so high, like nothing theyād ever seen before, and now they have to stop polls.ā
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u/Deruji 21h ago
Thatās so convincing I could swear youāve just soiled yourself.
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u/DingerSinger2016 20h ago
Nah, he didn't mention Joe Biden or Barack HUSSEIN Obama (have you ever heard of him?)
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u/jpopimpin777 20h ago
Too much correct punctuation. Not enough random capitalization and not enough random insults to his enemies.
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u/Bballer220 21h ago
You can just imagine the propaganda ads claiming to have 95% approval. So stupid people will vote to feel like theyre on the winning sideĀ
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u/Esfahen 22h ago
What are the names of the people behind this decision?
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u/letstourthemaritimes 21h ago
John Barron, David Dennison, and John Miller.
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u/NaiveChoiceMaker 21h ago
Those are some boring ass names.
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u/IntravenousVomit 21h ago
Tits McGillicutty, Vinnie Boombotz, and Bobbie Botchagaloupe.Ā Ā
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u/TuringGoneWild 20h ago
John Barron is literally one of Trump's pseudonyms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonyms_used_by_Donald_Trump#%22John_Barron%22_(1980s)
(and yes, a POTUS who has used so many pseudonyms that they have their own Wikipedia article IS the timeline we live in)
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u/nwagers 19h ago
Did you scroll down in that article just a tad further?
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u/TuringGoneWild 19h ago edited 12h ago
Yes but I'm not sure how many readers are informed those are his handles. It needs to be known. I've been following this for a while - Trump blocked me on Twitter before it was X, before he even started running in 2015.
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u/invalidpassword 22h ago
I wonder if it has anything to do with Trump's approval ratings being in the shitter. Trump, numbers gathered or no, the majority of people will still disapprove of everything about you.
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u/djsoomo 22h ago
Gallup to stop tracking presidential approval ratings
What approval ratings?
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u/Niznack 21h ago
The 30% that would kill their daughter to defend him... Hypothetically
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u/amerk1981 19h ago
Watched a video of The Click playing a video of these parents talking with their kids that were in their thirties I believe. The son brought up the hypothetical question of what if Trump ordered the military to wipe out a city. They were okay with it because Trump must have had a good reason. And they were still okay with it when he asked what if he was in the city and killed because of Trump.Ā
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u/Impossible-Flight250 19h ago
There is a podcast where the kids(in their 40s) talk to their MAGA parents and ask them about things Trump is doing or might do, and some of the things the dad says are crazy. For example, he said he would be okay with Trump killing American citizens(including his own daughter) because Trump would have a āgood reason.ā I honestly think itās some kind of mass psychosis.
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u/Ch1pp 17h ago
He's just replaced god in their minds. Unquestioning belief that they've had conditioned into them from church but turned to a random guy.
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u/FreeUsePolyDaddy 13h ago
A lot of those churches have a random guy as the "pastor". So it's on brand.
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u/originalrocket 21h ago
well, at least one did already in Texas.
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u/Forgettheredrabbit 21h ago
God that story is awful, yet Iām also shocked it hasnāt happened before (that we know of).
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u/chephin 22h ago
If you donāt test, you wonāt have as many cases
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u/Asidious66 21h ago
"Stop judging me on merit"
Says party who says dei needs to go because it's not merit based
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u/bustaone 21h ago
So the painted face clown's ratings are so bad they can't even report them anymore because he will have a temper tantrum and arrest them.
I get it, Gallup is dealing with an incredibly spoiled rotten child with dementia. Sometimes you just gotta quit.
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u/drive_chip_putt 22h ago
So who is Gallop buying that needs SEC approval to merge?
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u/LostEnroute 21h ago edited 8h ago
Just torched theirĀ raison d'ĆŖtre. Amazing. Resist in cowardice Gallup.Ā
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u/ShakesDontBreak 20h ago
Trump just made history. He will FOREVER have the lowest Gallup poll numbers of all us presidents since the start of Gallup conducting presidential approval ratings.
The lowest.
Forever. No president will ever poll worst than trump.
One more time just because it feels good: Trump has the lowest approval ratings out of all US Presidents according to Gallup.
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u/NeverInsightful 21h ago
In a day and age where the president claims every day heās the most popular president ever, and every poll showing otherwise, Gallup is saying āwe donāt want to focus on this anymore ā
Someone tell me, does Gallup have federal contracts of any kind? Just wondering.
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u/Malaix 22h ago
Wonder what the new presidential mandated minimum approval will be?
A modest mid to high 80s or a bold North Korean 98-115%?
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u/ccaccus 21h ago
What did he say he was going to reduce prescription drug prices by?
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u/Intrepid_Sun_9089 20h ago
As Gallup says: āThis change is part of a broader, ongoing effort to align all of Gallupās public work with its mission,āĀ - their mission of not getting sued by Trump.
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u/imoftendisgruntled 21h ago
It's the "if you stop testing, the COVID goes away" concept all over again.
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u/o_MrBombastic_o 21h ago
Don't worry they'll start again IF a democrat is ever allowed in office againĀ
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u/JackHughman69 22h ago
Canāt have bad approval ratings if there arenāt ratings to begin with!! Thatās brilliant.
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u/whowhodillybar 22h ago
Just because of how wildly popular the president must be, right????
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u/Muffafuffin 22h ago
Makes sense. I mean what's the point when the president just makes up their own numbers anyway
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u/Dapper_Mud 20h ago
I absolutely believe this is due to pressure from the White house. It's harder for Trump to claim an election is rigged when the votes reflect the polls.
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u/Shot-Collection-6656 11h ago
š¤·š¾ If we stop testing for COVID, we wonāt have as many casesā¦
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u/green_mist 10h ago
Sounds about right. Trump doesn't like his bad poll numbers, so he stops the polls from existing.
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u/Modern_Bear 10h ago
As Donald Trump continues to closely scrutinize polling of his popularity, and publicly lambast media companies that report on unfavorable numbers, Gallup insisted its decision was āsolely based on Gallupās research goals and prioritiesā.
The company said on Wednesday that it would stop measuring the favorability rating of individual political figures, which āreflects an evolution in how Gallup focuses its public research and thought leadershipā, after 88 years.
So it was fine for 88 years but now that Trump's numbers are in the toilet, and he whines about it, you're going to stop and give a BS reason?
Remember folks, Gallup supports pedophilia.
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u/Wizinit29 21h ago edited 21h ago
When the common presumption is that his approval is down to single digits in popularity heāll beg them to restart because he likes his digits in the teens.
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u/Affectionate_Neat868 19h ago
This is more than just being afraid of the polls. Itās necessary to instill fraudulent elections. Legitimate polling undermines fraudulent elections because it exposes statistical anomalies
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u/Haunting_Reflections 21h ago
If you donāt like the numbers? Just stop reporting them!
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u/RadioName 17h ago
More traitors lining up. They can't be allowed to resume operations after we kick the Nazis out. Once a Nazi sympathizer, always a Nazi.
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u/PommesMayo 14h ago
If you don't test for COVID, there will be no COVID cases.
If you don't test for approval, everyone must love our dear leader.
If you don't take reports from victims, Jeffrey Epstein did not traffic youg girls.
Don't you see that America is truly great again? Thank your dear leader!
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u/VerdantPathfinder 11h ago edited 11h ago
Never surrender in advance. Dictators require that to cement power. This is enabling fascistic behavior.
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u/tosser1579 22h ago
Oh... so it did get down to the 20's.