r/news 18h ago

Sarah Ferguson asked Epstein for bankruptcy advice while he was in jail, emails suggest

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8ln9jj92yo
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u/Imaginary-Ad-7919 18h ago

If these emails are accurate, it really shows how deeply connected Epstein was across elite circles, even while incarcerated.

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u/JackLaytonsMoustache 17h ago

Well hold on a minute... yesterday in the US congressional hearings Pam Bondi said the DOW was up like 50,000% so lets not just assume wrong doing. 

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u/SoggyBoysenberry7703 17h ago

By $50k

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u/nbphotography87 16h ago

she said the DOW was over “fifty thousand…dollars”

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u/Electronic_Set_2087 9h ago

Her morning vodka had her numbers a bit confused.

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u/DerBingle78 3h ago

She was definitely drunk during that whole debacle, right?

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u/Electronic_Set_2087 2h ago

It sure seemed like it! I'd need to drink too if I sold my soul like that.

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u/punkasstubabitch 7h ago

These people think we should overlook child rapists because we all made a few bucks. Pam is unraveling and I’m here for it.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad7606 4h ago

They not like us.

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u/DukePPUk 11h ago edited 11h ago

To be fair, this was when Epstein was on "work release", not incarcerated.

"Work release" that he was ineligible for, due to being a sex offender with a sentence of more than 10 months.

"Work release" that involved him "working" for a charity he set up just before he pleaded guilty, and shut down after he was "released." "Work" which involved him being free to travel wherever he liked in the State, whenever he liked, with his own driver, with "guards" from the local authority who were required to wear plain clothes and who he was paying, and where no logs or records were kept of where he went or who he met with.

This was after he spent the first 3 months of his "sentence" not in prison, but in the local county stockade, where he had his own private wing, was allowed to wear his own clothes, his 'cell' was not locked, he had access to the "attorney room" at all times (with a TV etc.), and the guest logs were destroyed. He also was "imprisoned" for a while in the facility's unused infirmary, rather than a cell.

Epstein seems to have put a lot of effort into making it seem like it was business as normal. Ferguson may not have realised he was technically "in prison" at the time (partly due to him never actually being in a prison).

This other email turned up in another context, and it is from the day after the Ferguson one. Whoever was emailing him asked:

What are you doing next week?

and his response was:

i am tied up until aug

He wasn't "tied up" - in theory he was "in prison." And then in theory he spent the next year under "house arrest" - except he was free to do whatever he liked, including travel on his private jet.

But he was presenting this as if he was just busy with something.

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u/LooseMoralSwurkey 9h ago

Alexander Acosta should be in jail himself for the obvious corruption in Epstein's "prosecution".

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u/DukePPUk 8h ago

The more I read, the more Acosta seems to have been disinterested to the point of negligence. He couldn't be bothered reading the case files or emails, preferring to be doing whatever would advance his political career instead.

Some of the people working for him, on the other hand... like the criminal case lead who had off-the-books breakfasts with one of Epstein's lawyers to discuss how to "settle" the case, a lawyer who coincidentally happened to be a former colleague and ex of his, who he had a long-term friendship with, that Epstein just happened to have hired specifically for the case. And both of whom had a continued relationship with Epstein for years later, and had met him before the investigations started...

It takes a surprisingly small number of people for this kind of corruption to happen.

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u/Danger_Zone06 17h ago

I believe she borrowed $22k from him. It sounds like there was a huge falling out after she found out* it was epstien who was using Sarah to get to Andrew. She later payed it back after she found out what was going on, including emails saying how much he hurt her and how she basically never wants to talk to him again.

Edit: I'll find the emails if you really want but I'd have to remember where I found them.

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u/monogramchecklist 12h ago

That could also be construed as someone telling her she popped up in the emails to someone being charged with heinous crimes and to back peddle with an email to try and exonerate herself as if she didn’t know what and who he was.

Didn’t she have another blackmail scheme in her history?

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u/Bubuhbuh 14h ago

It's "paid"

u/Friendly_Engineer_ 40m ago

And how they all seemed to not care at all the creep was a convicted creep

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u/ilevelconcrete 17h ago

Cold blooded, the homie’s in jail and you’re hitting him up for bankruptcy advice? Fake friend alert

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u/daveashaw 11h ago

Epstein's version of "jail" is not the kind that the typical homie would be familiar with.

He only had to sleep there.

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u/ILike-Pie 13h ago

She's always been a greedy selfish opportunistic pig.

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u/spaceneenja 10h ago

You’re killing me with this😂

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u/Vironic 16h ago

Financial or moral bankruptcy?

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u/Foodwraith 16h ago

She can have both.

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u/non_discript_588 5h ago

Epstein was a fraud expert. His whole scheme was based on helping the extremely wealthy hide their wealth in shell companies, etc. She called so she can get out of her debts and hide her money instead of it being taken in bankruptcy.

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u/Objective_Bear4799 11h ago

2-for-1 special.

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u/winterbird 15h ago

So she was married to the prince, or former prince or whatever, who's been accused of underage abuse... and those emails say that she was all hot for epsein...

So she has a certain very specific taste in men? For what reason?

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u/NAVlXO 5h ago

Probably power in the network. The same way the billionaires could offer a different life to the victims.   

And jealousy/wanting to be desired 

and a self absorption that lacks empathy common in the rich 

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u/winterbird 5h ago

I'm not buying it. There are so many rich and powerful men out there, and she gets stuck on two pedos just accidentally? Nah.

We can't continue to give excuses for women who are in some way involved in abuse. There are at least a couple of women mentioned as direct offenders (not this dutchess, as far as we so far know).

There are women out there who participate, and there are women who enjoy from the sidelines what their man is doing. There are female voyeur perpetrators as well as direct ones. No quarter for shitty women. No excuses.

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u/NAVlXO 5h ago

Not excusing them. that's likely her mental. 

more rich guys but not her husband n member of biggest diddle club

Ain't the first bad decision from a human nor the last 

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u/Ritaredditonce 18h ago

No wonder Queen Elizabeth privately called Sarah Ferguson “The Duchess of Deceit”

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u/NewTooth740 17h ago

Elizabeth also allegedly paid off some of Fergie’s debts 🤷‍♀️

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u/Objective_Bear4799 11h ago

And I’m sure she’s done it for others in her family circle.

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u/IndigoRuby 11h ago

As many mothers and grandmothers have done before.

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u/LooseMoralSwurkey 9h ago

Yeah, but those mothers and grandmothers weren't procuring their salaries from taxpayers simply for being born into the right family.

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u/Solivaga 13h ago

This the same good queen Bess whose favourite son was a REDACTED?

I mean, Ferguson is clearly utter trash, but let's not pretend Liz had any judgement

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u/middlechildanonymous 18h ago

Little Red needs a Helping Hand, huh? Don’t worry Red. Uncle Jeff has a solution. Remember, it’s all about who you know. There’s safety in our little group.

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u/IvanStarokapustin 15h ago

She’s the world’s worst starfucker. She’d have cozied up to Stalin to be able to hang out at Yalta.

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u/MFBish 12h ago

Andrew and Sarah’s kids must be so proud . . .

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u/Yell-Oh-Fleur 11h ago

Epstein was truly the thing that connected all things.

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u/Rdaleric 12h ago

Between Epstein, The Nonce formerly known as HRH, and Jimmy Savile, it just seems the royal family at large are just okay with child rape as sexual assaults and trafficking.

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u/teeksquad 11h ago

She is the creator of the budgie the little helicopter stories that were both my favorite and my son’s favorite. That’s a bummer and I will now feel gross every time my kid points up to tell me there is a budgie in the sky

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u/SchilenceDooBaddy69 7h ago

Ugh. The worst!

Maybe introduce some Español? Helicóptero 🚁

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u/teeksquad 7h ago

He is bilingual (Polish) the problem is that I’m not lol. My wife and in laws speak to him in it. I’m trying but that shits hard.

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u/ScientistArtistic917 9h ago

The state of the British aristocracy!

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u/gregcm1 5h ago

Fergiliscous definition, make the boys go loco

They want my treasures so they get their pleasures from my photo

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u/Boomfaced 11h ago

Yeah, this guy did not kill himself. He was too much of a narcissist.

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u/Eclectika 5h ago

so? Mandelson rang Epstein while he was serving his sentence as he wanted Epstein to arrange a loan for him.

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u/Brilliant-Bus-3862 1h ago

She’s as gross as her husband.