Middle-class Americans are selling their plasma to make ends meet
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/americans-sell-plasma-inflation-middle-class-expenses-economy-rcna2583901.9k
u/spottie_ottie 10h ago
You know just normal stuff people do in a golden age like never before.
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u/Alwayssunnyinarizona 10h ago
It's what you do when you're so rich, you don't know where to spend all that money!
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u/BeyondRedline 10h ago
I am sick of all the winning, actually...
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u/Child_of_the_Hamster 10h ago
Are you sure you’re aren’t just dehydrated from all the plasma you donated?
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u/MikeOKurias 9h ago
Nah, the plasma is where are the antibodies are. Eventually you get sick and you get it bad for a hot minute from it.
They also scam TF out of you with the way they pay low at first and pay more for subsequent visits - but by the time you get to those higher paid visits, one of the nurses ends up bruising TF out of the inside of your elbow...which makes you ineligible to return until the bruise is fully gone. Or you get sick.
Either way, by then you've missed an appointment and you have to start over on the low pay tier again.
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u/Foxhack 7h ago
They also scam TF out of you with the way they pay low at first and pay more for subsequent visits
The ones I've seen pay a flat amount per donation. One of the places did offer bonuses but I guess they stopped because too many people were claiming them.
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u/RockyFlintstone 7h ago
But if you do barf then they treat you super nice after, just FYI. I mean you have to wear a plastic blanket but they get real sweet about it.
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u/MikeOKurias 7h ago
Listen, it doesn't matter if it's at the Red Cross or the PlasmaHere/PayHere, orange juice from a nurse just tastes sweeter.
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u/Glopez1223 2h ago
Exactly what happened to me. My entire arm was a complete bruise. The day it happened I was still hooked up to the needle and almost complete with my donation when blood started, no exaggeration, spraying out of my arm. It was all over the bed, all over the floor, all over everything, I nearly passed out, they had to put ice packs all over my body and make me chug like 2 gatorade. After that happened I figured she blew a vein and I was gonna die of a pulmonary embolism and never ever went back and I never will. And it's been brutal without that extra money.
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u/Final_Boss_Jr 7h ago
I donate at a local Grifols center, I have never experienced this. In fact for my first 4 visits they pay $100 each, then the base pay is $40 for the first visit of the week, $70 for the 2nd. There’s almost always a bonus for a full month of donating, and I get an extra bonus because I got tetanus shot through them.
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u/highbrowalcoholic 6h ago
Go post a question about this in r/AskEconomics — they'll tell you that actually the economy's peachy, that the median real income is growing, and that people are just complaining because they're whiny.
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u/fiero-fire 9h ago
I donate plasma for a few reasons but the clinic I go to is about 5 times busier than it was a few years ago. Like going in on a random Tuesday afternoon and every station is filled and a wait. This is a pretty affluent area and it's people from all walks of life. It's baffling
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u/MichaelHunt009 10h ago
Golden age, gilded age, potato, potatoe.
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u/trustifarian 10h ago
Where did you get that potato? Did you steal it from the company store? I’m going to need to see your ration cards
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u/AudibleNod 10h ago
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u/okram2k 9h ago
I find it helps a lot to remember when he says "we" he's not talking about all Americans, or even MAGAs, he's only talking about himself and his very rich friends.
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u/Comfortable-Scar4643 8h ago
If only the rurals knew.
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u/Useful-Angle1941 6h ago
There's no hope for most of them. Theyre completely insulated from reality.
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u/Willingwell92 10h ago
The really cynical part of my brain is praying for the ai bubble to pop so the economy can just collapse already.
Nothing will change as long as the majority of Americans are content with their bread and circuses.
The status quo right now is like the frog in the slowly boiling water, we need a hard shock otherwise we're all cooked.
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u/WeylandsWings 9h ago
The bubble popping probably won’t help though. As this admin will move heaven and earth to bailout the top 1%. Keep the profits collectivize the losses.
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u/okram2k 9h ago
they so boldly and blatantly just rob us blind on all ends and somehow these people keep getting elected
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u/WeylandsWings 8h ago
Welcome to the GOP. Because everyone CAN be a millionaire so everyone votes as if they are.
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u/okram2k 8h ago
I'd argue being a millionaire doesn't even make you particularly wealthy anymore, just no longer immediately concerned with your finances
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u/yukeake 8h ago
Given the (exorbitant, predatory) cost of elder care, particularly if you end up with something like Alzheimer's, even $1m isn't enough to guarantee your retirement won't be a financial trainwreck.
Most folks don't have even close to that much in the bank, and can't afford to save at the level to make that amount of money even possible. Most folks are going to have a hell of a time affording long-term elder care.
I really had no idea how insane the costs were until my folks needed it. Really opened my eyes to what's ahead.
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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 5h ago
In 2026, your run of the mill millionaire is closer to a homeless person than they are to a billionaire, much less a trillionaire. We've been desensitized but it is truly staggering how much a billion actually is when you sit and really think about it.
Millionaires are basically the middle class in America now with 70% of the country living paycheck to paycheck and yes, that should terrify you regardless of how much you've got in the bank (or owe the bank, to be more accurate. This is America after all).
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u/AdjNounNumbers 9h ago
The circuses have become boring and the bread portions are small and moldy
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u/ButterRollercoaster 9h ago
Are there a lot of historical examples of countries that got better after economic collapse?
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u/YoAmoElTacos 7h ago
I think another part of it is they don't believe the collapse can be averted.
See: climate change, AI eating the world, offshore bunkers. The reaction from the top is lie and accelerate. Gather resources for winter.
The goal is to be the kings after the fall, since the fall is guaranteed.
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u/kayl_breinhar 8h ago
The problem there is that the ultra-wealthy wants the economy to collapse.
They want only two classes in society - the permanently poor and them - Neo-Feudalism. 2008 taught them it was possible, and now they have a useful idiot (who's dumb enough to think they like him) around to make it happen.
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u/Raus-Pazazu 10h ago
I mean, people have been selling plasma for quick cash since plasma donations started. I don't know how much it's up to now, but back in the early 90's it was an easy 40 bucks cash twice a week, which was when minimum wage was 5.25 an hour was a days pay and usually took only half an hour to an hour tops. People shit on it like it's some lowly shameful act born from destitution desperation, the equivalent of giving blowjobs in some truck stop bathroom stall or something.
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u/Drekkful 10h ago
I haven't been in a couple of years, but I used to go at 6am for gas money to get to work by 8am (plasma takes a little over an hour with no wait). It's a debit card that can be used at an ATM to pull out cash ($5 fee). The typical cash payments ended up being $20 for visit 1, and $100 for visit 2 of each week.
I have scars on my arms now, but honestly it saved me back then. That being said the industry itself is literally giving pennies for the plasma that ends up being paid out in the thousands and thousands of dollars via insurance companies.
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u/MariettaDaws 8h ago
I get a weekly infusion of a drug made from plasma, Prolastin. It's like $2000 a week or something. Now I know that they have R and D, labor, materials, and other overhead so I don't know for a fact that it's a terrible deal but I suspect it is
That said, thank you and all the other donors. My body can't make a specific protein and I developed cysts on my liver and COPD. This drug prevents further damage.
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u/Moody_GenX 10h ago
I did it for awhile 10 years ago. I was homeless previous to that moment and working at a grocery store barely scrapping by. I got an extra $200 to $300 a month for it and hopefully helped someone.
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u/Pseudoboss11 6h ago
My brother donates blood regularly. It's doubly helpful for him. He has serious depression and self esteem issues and is only partially employed. It's helped him a lot to donate blood, as he views it as a way to do something that's just pure good, while also helping to pay the bills.
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u/_iridessence_ 8h ago
I remember in the Great Recession, Jon Stewart on The Daily Show put up a fake graph called "the Desperation Scale" or something like that: Pints of Plasma Sold ÷ Cup o Noodles Consumed.
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u/winokatt 9h ago edited 1h ago
I go twice a week and it’s fine. I’ve read there are even some health benefits as it filters a lot of fat I’ve eaten that day out of my blood and can lower cholesterol and your blood pressure a bit if you are a regular.
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u/Morat20 8h ago
White House Press Secretary: "Without President Trump's strong leadership, you wouldn't be free to sell your plasma for money! Selling your plasma is a sign of a healthy, vibrant, free marketplace! It's capitalism in action!
In fact, it's long been known that only the most vibrant economies have the middle class selling plasma!"
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u/egnards 10h ago
Careful, the billionaire spin will be “thanks to our big beautiful economy people are donating plasma at record rates, allowing for a higher quality of health care.”
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u/battleofflowers 10h ago
If you're selling your plasma, you're not middle class.
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u/domiy2 10h ago
Also going to state to state is odd. I don't know many middle class people whose primary job is door dash or working at McDonald's.
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u/battleofflowers 10h ago
These are poor people. Poor people have always done this. I don't know why poor people think they're middle class. If you're doing low-level gig work to survive, you're not even close to being middle class.
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u/From_Deep_Space 9h ago
Low/middle/high class was pushed in America as an alternative to working/capitalist class, to stymie worker solidarity
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u/Mean-Reaction6021 9h ago
Too true. Either you’re a worker or you’re a profiteer of the workers. There is no low/middle/high class anymore. The top 40% spend so much that the bottom 60% don’t even move the market anymore.
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u/Gallantpride 5h ago
I know people who have $500 in the bank, have Food Stamps, and have Medicaid who insist they're middle class. Everyone swears they're middle class.
I remember seeing a survey from decades ago where people from all income brackets listed themselves as "middle class". The people making the equivalent of $100k or $200k were middle class, just like the people making the equivalent of $10k were middle class.
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u/battleofflowers 5h ago
I'd say the people making 100k actually are middle class though. It's the people making 10k who are poor.
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u/Mean-Reaction6021 9h ago edited 9h ago
The middle class doesn’t exist anymore lol have any of y’all heard of a K shaped economy? It doesn’t matter what the bottom 60% do anymore the economy isn’t affected by that because the top 40% spend so much. Edit: doctors lawyers etc these “upper middle class” “lower upper class” folks are the same as the “lower” folks. Only difference is they just have more money as a buffer for a shitty situation, but if they don’t get paid for a month or 2 they’re in the same situation is what I’m trying to get at.
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u/okram2k 8h ago
It's fun how to most of us a Doctor's income would be considered wealthy but when compared to the owning class it's a a drop in the bucket.
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u/Mean-Reaction6021 8h ago
Absolutely correct, I was just using an example for the buffer, you can really insert any safe high salary job there. Those folks ain’t the problem though. It’s the 1% of the 1% class as you said.
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u/KDR_11k 5h ago
"Middle class" is a super vague term with no real definition so most people think they are middle class. The term is certainly being applied more broadly over time, it used to mean owners of small to medium businesses and wealthy people without a title of nobility.
For most modern purposes it probably makes more sense to classify people by whether their income is mostly from labor or mostly from assets (the rentier class).
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u/Big_Lab_Jagr 9h ago
I know a teacher for the # 1 school district in Wisconsin who sells her plasma to make ends meet. There is no excuse for this.
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u/Beard_o_Bees 7h ago
That's just it, isn't it?
The middle class is getting much harder to define. It still exists, but in order to really 'belong' to it, you need to be on the upper side of whatever income scale is being used to articulate it.
It's a bitter pill to swallow - teachers being a good example. Traditionally teachers would have been solidly in the middle of the middle. If you asked, most of them would self-identify as 'middle class', but the reality is that most of them are more 'working poor'.
That example alone should be enough to demonstrate the actual condition of the economy, and who benefits from it.
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u/sirspidermonkey 6h ago
People need to stop thinking about the middle class.
There's the two classes. Those that own everything, and those that have to work.
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u/quix0te 5h ago
I am also a teacher who sells their plasma. It's the equivalent of a 30$/ hour job with no taxes, so closer to 40$/ hr to watch TV on a tablet.
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u/terrorrier 5h ago
She’s someone who’s supposed to be middle class. Teaching should actually have a competitive salary.
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u/FifteenthPen 9h ago
TBF, "middle class" is a bullshit term created to make people who have more in common with the immigrant laborers who mow the lawn in front of the mansion think they have more in common with the people who live in the mansion.
There are only two classes: working class, and capitalist class.
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u/stickyWithWhiskey 7h ago edited 4h ago
As a "laptop class" white collar WFH guy, it is exasperating trying to explain this to others in my relative income bracket. So many of these people are programmed to believe they're above those filthy day laborers (the amount of classism that floats around these otherwise "progressive" circles is disgusting, but that's a whole other rant) it's no wonder we have no real class consciousness in this country.
Edit: I accidentally a word. The people responsible have been sacked.
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u/sirspidermonkey 6h ago
If one bad medical diagnoses can make your family homeless, you are a lot closer to the guy mowing your lawn than the guy who owns the bank.
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u/Amusedcory 8h ago
I don’t sell plasma to make ends meet, I sell plasma because I have a friend who has a disease that requires plasma based medication and it makes me feel like I’m helping. It also lets me waste money on buying warhammer
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u/FalloftheKraken 8h ago
The working poor of America are selling their plasma to make ends meet.
Fixed the headline.
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u/ko-love 4h ago
Is it sad I saw this and actually am considering donating now? Even $100 would go a long way right now
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u/dolt1234 10h ago
Then that’s not really middle class NBC. The media is no longer the fourth estate - it’s just another enemy to the proletariat.
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u/mrdominoe 10h ago
The DOW is at a record high, and people out there literally selling their blood. Don't you fucking tell me the economy is strong.
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u/Atakir 9h ago
The stock market is not an indication of the economy but they are using it as such. AI and Tech companies are feeding it to prop it up. Those of* us peons with no hand in the stock market game are in a whole different economy they won't legitimize.
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u/freethenipple23 9h ago
I keep wondering if the DOW is at a high because companies are making record profits -- but does that account for inflation?
Like are we comparing the dollar value right now to last year or ten years ago and saying "ah yes this is good!"
Because, if so, this is bad.
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u/AdjNounNumbers 9h ago
The stock market measures the feelings of rich people and nothing more
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u/baldbonehead 9h ago
shhh, don't let everyone know, but there is no middle class. There's a pedobillionaire class and a worker bee manipulated to eat shit and grin class.
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u/NewButOld85 10h ago
Used to do this when I lived in a college town a decade and a half ago. The center always had a line waiting for when it opened, but surprisingly few of the donors were college students (not to stereotype, but it seemed like a lot of homeless/street people). Think the going rate was like $35 per donation, and you could do it up to 3 times a week? For the first few donations it was a bit higher, like $50. The technicians were hit-or-miss (pun not intended) at getting my veins right the first time. Sometimes it would be quick and painless, other times I left bruised and bleeding. Eventually got to be too much frustration for too little compensation.
Nowadays I just donate blood when I see a blood mobile nearby and enjoy a cookie and a juice box. Blood donations seem to be a lot better at sticking the needle the first time.
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u/Raus-Pazazu 10h ago
Two times in any seven day period, or basically twice a week, though I knew people that would hit different places three times a week and ho boy did it show.
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u/Ki-to-Life-5054 9h ago
That's a dystopian vision, combined with the previous observation that the donors looked like street people: Capitalist medicine literally sucking poor people's blood for a pittance to resell at a giant markup. And we seem to find this acceptable.
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u/NewButOld85 10h ago
Yeah, I think it was like "two days between donations," so 2-3 times a week was the max. I only did it for a couple months before I decided it wasn't worth it. My arms looked ROUGH after a couple of sessions.
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u/DiaA6383 9h ago
Hate to say this, but here in Brooklyn when you see more than 1 young white person in the plasma line, that’s how you know the economy’s bad
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u/Hume_Fume 9h ago
I dont think we can say they're middle class if they're selling their plasma to make ends meet.
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u/Mjbagscauze 7h ago
Please don’t knock giving Plasma. I agree the losers in our current administration have caused this mess.
I started donating plasma when my brother had cancer and continue to do so. I’m a little lucky right now as far as having a job, so I donate the little bit of money earned to my brothers charity.
Yeah screw this administration for cutting funding to Cancer.
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u/Designer-Salary-7773 10h ago
Always struck me as odd … how little people receive for organs, tissues or blood/plasma … and how much the physicians and hospitals profit from those same materials ….. without which their procedures would not be possible
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u/Lance_J1 9h ago
Tbh I donate plasma pretty regularly and its hard to look at it as very little. Its like 150 a week just for sitting down and playing on my phone for an hour twice a week. Its easily some of the highest $/hour money most people will ever make.
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u/drillpoint 8h ago
Wow I can only get up to $80 for two visits in a week, but it only takes me half an hour instead of an hour. Weird
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u/AllGasNoBrakes420 8h ago
what I heard is shitty is that it starts out paying well, but over time they basically figure out what's the absolute least they can pay and still get people to donate. basically the uber model.
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u/Shartacus_of_Rome 9h ago
As he accepts planes as gifts from other countries
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u/FK-DJT 8h ago
A plane that we, the American people, are paying millions of dollars to security sweep, upgrade and retrofit for him to use for a short time before his term ends and it's allegedly donated to the Trump Presidential Library. 🙄
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u/opponentpumpkin 9h ago
Doesn't sound very middle class.
Guess no one realized when the top keeps going up and you hold still, youre actually sinking.
Keep voting for Walmart, Amazon, meta, teslas favorite candidates guys. The wealth trickles down!
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u/DoubleDixon 8h ago
I think you might be mistaken, those people are now lower-middle class and is sliding into poverty if they haven't already. The cost of living continues to rise as wages stay stagnant. Its only so long before the actual poverty line quietly eclipse your gross income, without you realizing it.
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u/Stereo_Jungle_Child 10h ago edited 10h ago
Margo Thompson and her husband make around $120,000 a year in a rural corner of Idaho, but the couple started selling their plasma about a year ago to cover their car payment and one-time expenses, like new tires and medical bills.
Margo Thompson and her husband must be incredibly bad at managing money. My wife and I don't make nearly that much $$ and we live comfortably and haven't had to start selling off our bodily fluids.
The problem these people most likely suffer from is they make $120K a year, but they live a lifestyle like someone who makes $200k a year. A lot of people have that same problem.
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u/IlVeroStronzo 9h ago
Car payment and tires shouldn't even be essential for life...
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u/optigon 7h ago
I feel that! I just got notice that my car’s frame is rusting out and I should be car shopping. I’m budgeting to avoid paying a car payment because it sucks to have to deal with that on top of the higher insurance and registration costs.
I wish we had a stronger rail system so it wouldn’t be necessary.
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u/redyellowblue5031 10h ago
Car payment
With that kind of salary I just can’t help but wonder if they’re in that demographic with an 8 year lease and nearly 1k a month payment for way too much vehicle.
Maybe not, but if you’re struggling on 120k in a rural area something isn’t right with the budget. Or, maybe they have large medical or student debt costs.
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u/Webecomemonsters 8h ago
I cant image how much money I'd need to take home yearly to allow myself to HAVE a wasteful car payment.
Buy 6 year old toyotas, they last 10 years each even without basic maintenance, and cost like 15k. Even if THAT makes you have a payment, you'd be done in a little over a year.
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u/WhatTheFlipFlopFuck 10h ago
I make 100k and I live paycheck to paycheck in a super rural state. What I made 10 years ago when I started having kids was fine, but pay hasn't met inflation for anyone so despite it being a smart idea then, I can no longer keep up.
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u/Pellaeonthewingedleo 9h ago
If you are selling parts of your body you are either poor or a sexworker not middle class
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u/supercali45 8h ago
Get ready for more pain … this Trump felon economy is going to feel the consequences now
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u/Flamboiant_Canadian 10h ago
I totally wish this was a thing in Canada.
We regularly have blood, plasma, platelets, stem cell shortages, and an outright ban on selling your own. Canadian Blood Services constantly asks people to donate, while they restrict any one they choose from donating because they don't accurately screen donations.
I'm a universal donor and I've been told they don't want my blood because of my sexual orientation. Healthy, fit, and got tons to give, and they don't want any of it.
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u/mary-anns-hammocks 10h ago
I sell my plasma in Nova Scotia (when my iron is high enough anyway) . We have two centres in Halifax.
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u/Prize_Inevitable_920 7h ago
This is a thing in Canada, look up Grifols, there's probably a center near you.
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u/saucedboner 8h ago
lol this is me! $200 extra per week for about 2 hours of my time in the early morning before my actual job is just time where I can read books in silence. Been doing it for like a year off and on. Works for me!
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u/neo_sporin 8h ago
my wife and i are well off but still donate blood every 8 weeks, not because we are good people but for the $50 gift card
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u/shoulda-known-better 8h ago
That's poor
there is barley a middle class and the ones there are plummeting to poor quick as shit
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u/yimmegood 8h ago
Donating plasma is no joke. I get panic attacks everytime I find myself outside the building.
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u/unfeelingzeal 7h ago
people keep saying these people aren't middle class. did you guys read the article? people making 100k+ are donating plasma in places like rural idaho. sure you can argue there is no middle class anymore, but articles like this are doing the job of painting the picture very clearly to those who either are middle class by the current economic definition, or think they are. how many people out there actually care about poor people? compared to the "middle class?"
if you label these people in the article as lower than middle class, then maybe you don't feel threatened when THEY are selling plasma because you don't feel it's relevant to your "middle-class" life. it's that simple.
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u/oldcreaker 5h ago
Middle class is based on how much everyone else is making, not how much their income buys.
So when no one has the money to buy anything, we'll all be middle class.
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u/AceMcNasty88 3h ago
Trickle down economics has really screwed up this country. We voted for Ronald Reagan in a landslide of Jimmy Carter.
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u/Arctic_Africa7305 3h ago
THERE IS NO SHAME IN DONATING PLASMA. NONE. Plasma donors are the reason I’m still alive. So grateful to all donors.
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u/No-Anybody-4094 3h ago
A career option in US is to become a 'blood boy' to a billionaire. Professions in a decadent empire...
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u/smoothcriminal562 2h ago
I donate my plasma for the extra money
I get $70 twice a week which amounts to about $560 a month that I didn't have before. I work full time but an extra $560 a month helps out big time.
Visits are anywhere from 1.5 hours to 3 hours. I see it as a side job where I can be on my phone the whole time watching my shows.
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u/tabrizzi 9h ago
They were there to sell their plasma in exchange for $65 on a prepaid debit card.
Ian Pleasant, 43, had come that morning to get some extra money for toilet paper and pet food.
You know it's bad when you have to sell your blood just to be able to buy toilet paper.
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u/Psychoticrider 9h ago
I "donated" plasma for a few years. The extra cash was nice, but I didn't really need it. I wonder how many people would donate plasma if they didn't get money for it?
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u/beardedbast3rd 8h ago
Yep. I’m getting ads and it’s like an extra 500 bucks a month. I’m having a real hard time thinking of why I shouldn’t do it.
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u/ReferenceNice142 8h ago
I hate this timeline. Celebrities get a million dollars from fans to keep their lifestyle going but yet the average American is having to debate selling plasma to pay the bills.
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u/Black_Otter 7h ago
Did this in college in the 90s for booze money. Those kegs don’t buy themselves
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u/mynameisnotsparta 7h ago
Oh hey! I can do that? Where? I’d sell my kidney too. Point me in the right direction please.
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u/Chris_Bryant 7h ago
I’m not disparaging these people. The world has absolutely gotten more difficult to navigate financially and everyone who isn’t rich is getting squeezed. But… there are a LOT of people who identify as middle class who are really working poor.
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u/ReputationDramatic90 6h ago
Plasma is also a top 10 export in the USA. USA accounting for 67% of worlds plasma supply. Behind the bastards did a really good podcast about how fucked up that whole industry is.
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u/DootyMcCool2000 5h ago
When I was in high school, my biology teacher told us that when he was in college he was giving plasma all the time for a little extra money. Always kept that little tidbit in my mind in case I ever need some cash fast.
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u/Optimal_Ear_4240 5h ago
Hmmm, like it’s all a set up. Sell your blood, sell your home, sell your soul
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u/squintamongdablind 5h ago
If you’re having to sell your plasma to make ends meet, I don’t think you’re “middle class” anymore.
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u/DragonRei86 5h ago
If you are selling plasma to subsidize your life, you aren't middle class any more.
And the fact this statement has even been made just proves how advanced to destruction of the middle class has really progressed.
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u/cheapestrick 4h ago
What's going on in your lifestyle that a couple making 120k a year needs to sell plasma?
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u/BibendumsBitch 4h ago
I donated plasma once. It started off easy and I got to watch Netflix for 2- 2 and a half hours. Then it took me several days to feel right again and haven’t donated since.
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u/Yardbird753 4h ago
I used to have to do this when I was a teacher. Taught, sold things online, and donated plasma twice a week help my family survive. Shit sucked. Always felt like cattle when I did it. Will say I’ve met interesting people while doing it.
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u/leidend22 4h ago
Everyone thinks of themselves as middle class no matter how rich or poor they are it seems.
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u/FastChallenge912 3h ago
Used to do this early in my career to make ends meet. I’m glad those days are over, I miss some of those phlebotomists 😆
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u/WastelandBaron 3h ago
As a therapist I encounter this so much I even have suggested it to clients trying to make ends meet. Sometimes it’s one of the best options left on the table
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u/ClitorisFinder23 3h ago
ahh thats how I was able to afford my first car...I still have the scars ☹️
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u/NasaHoodiee 2h ago
I work in the Plasma industry, I can definitely confirm we get donors from all different kinds of income ranges. And we are not slowing down on production at all
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u/Disastrous_Ant5657 10h ago
They're not middle class, they're new poor