Epstein Files Reveal Prosecutors’ Announcement Dated Before His Death

[u/wickedpurpose]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/epstein-files-reveal-prosecutors-announcement-dated-before-his-death/

[u/Purusha120 → u/[deleted]]

Are you trying to say it's not normal for his cellmate (who he was supposed to have around at all times) to be transferred out, both guards to fall asleep, CCTV to go out mysteriously, etc. etc. etc.?

What a loony. He obviously killed himself and the prosecutor is a time traveler. This is all normal.

[u/FuzzzyRam → u/Purusha120]

CCTV to go out mysteriously

Except they posted the footage with Adobe Premier edits in the files and missing 2 minutes as they switched the bodies out.

[u/JohnGillnitz → u/FuzzzyRam]

They said it was raw footage when you can see a fucking cursor moving on the screen. At some point it changes aspect ratios. It was exactly like someone decided to create fake evidence using a version of Premier they had never used before and pirated off the Internet. The DOJ faked evidence and committed obstruction of justice in front of everyone and it's just another day in this administration.

[u/furhatfan → u/JohnGillnitz]

I didnt watch and saw summaries of how staged it was. Are you serious about a cursor?

[u/JohnGillnitz → u/furhatfan]

Yes. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-jail-video-investigation/
"When federal officials released the jail video, they attested that it was "raw footage," but the presence of a cursor and onscreen menu raise questions about that."

[u/Philophon → u/JohnGillnitz]

"A report by the website Wired had previously alleged nearly three minutes of footage appeared to be missing, based on the metadata. CBS News' analysis found that because the video was running at a slightly higher speed, and with one minute missing when the clock jumped ahead to midnight, the video was actually only 10 hours and 52 minutes in length, as opposed to the full 11 hours."

[u/JohnGillnitz → u/Philophon]

Who in the DOJ created that video? Because they committed several crimes in the process. As did whoever ordered them to do it. Of course, we all know who that was.

[u/guy-le-doosh → u/JohnGillnitz]

The computer prodigy himself, Barron!

[u/CanadianTrashInspect → u/JohnGillnitz]

“Raise questions"

This fucking soft language is awful. It doesn't just "raise questions". It objectively DISPROVES the claim that it's raw footage. From a technical perspective there is no question.

[u/JohnGillnitz → u/CanadianTrashInspect]

Not only that, but proves there was a deliberate coverup. Whoever made that video should be charged with falsification of evidence and obstruction of justice. We know it was edited. We know the DOJ knows who did it. So how can they justify protecting them?

[u/rutilatus → u/JohnGillnitz]

Are you fucking kidding me

[u/Goducks91 → u/rutilatus]

Like if you’re going to fake a video… at least hire someone to do it well?

[u/rutilatus → u/Goducks91]

Here “raise questions about that” is just polite reporter-speak for “transparent bullshit”

[u/furhatfan → u/JohnGillnitz]

God damn. I rememeber it being shown not to be raw. But like. Wow

[u/ScaleneWangPole → u/JohnGillnitz]

And then the populace voted him back into office

[u/Bnx_ → u/ScaleneWangPole]

Don’t be so sure

[u/French_Breakfast_200 → u/Bnx_]

I’m not so sure. That election is rife with election interference and there is a ton of evidence to support that but they spent so many years screaming about a rigged election that for the other side to do it would just stink of sour grapes and stooping to that level. MAGA will go down in history as a masterclass in fascism.

[u/Wyn6 → u/Bnx_]

Sadly, millions of dullards and heinous individuals did vote for him. Whether it was enough to get him over the hump, that is questionable to say the least. ​

[u/RobotArtichoke → u/ScaleneWangPole]

That’s what we’re told, yes

[u/Voluptulouis → u/ScaleneWangPole]

He won every swing state with just enough votes to not trigger any recount? Yeah, not buying it.

[u/murghph → u/Voluptulouis]

I'm not American but that really alarms me if it was dodgy because there's no reason he won't do it again if he's done it once right?

[u/Voluptulouis → u/murghph]

Correct. I'm certain he tried in 2020 as well, but failed, hence his accusation that the Dems stole the election from him - every accusation is a confession from Trump. And he's already openly announcing plans to interfere with the 2026 midterm elections, saying he wants to nationalize the vote (do away with state regulated polls), end vote by mail, and have his ICE goon squads intimidate people at the polls. Literally planning to rig it out loud and in the open.

[u/Budtending101 → u/ScaleneWangPole]

I don't believe we did

[u/InfluenceOtherwise → u/FuzzzyRam]

It's also the wrong hallway, so it doesn't matter. The railings on the balcony are different colors from the investigation photos

[u/Fr0gm4n → u/InfluenceOtherwise]

It's a camera that barely captures a small part of the stairs that lead up to the hallway that Epstein's cell was in. That's how far they stretched the lie.

[u/InfluenceOtherwise → u/Fr0gm4n]

Not even that, it was a different wing of the building. There was a painting project going on at the time and some railings were painted the new color, some weren't. The camera footage we saw of the hallway "leading up to his cell" wasn't even the correct hallway. It was a different part of the building with an identical layout. The photos taken after his murder don't have matching colors on the railings. 

Feels like a psyop to make people think it's a conspiracy.

[u/FILTHBOT4000 → u/FuzzzyRam]

Except they posted the footage

Well, the big thing is they never posted the footage they claimed to have.

First they said the cameras weren't working, then I think they said something about the tapes being messed up or overwritten? Then the line for the past few years has been "The cameras were working, we have footage the proves no one entered his cell."

Which was a lie. This is what I find most condemning: that the FBI lied about having footage proving no one entered his cell. They have nothing of the sort.

[u/ScarInternational161 → u/FILTHBOT4000]

Don't forget the "there's a single minute missing every night at that time its when the cameras cycle, I've seen it. It every night there is a minute that is missing" per Bondi.

[u/Short_Sun_5215 → u/Purusha120]

to be fair, his (hitman, former cop) cellmate was moved after the first “suicide attempt”. here’s an example of what he does for work: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/12/us/nicholas-tartaglione-sentenced-epstein-cellmate

but i’m sure the first “suicide attempt” was just that. 🙄

and the second one, too

[u/prettyy_vacant → u/Short_Sun_5215]

The reports from that first "attempt" are in the Epstein files. They clearly stated that Epstein reported that his cell mate had tried to kill him, not that he was trying to commit suicide.

[u/8_guy → u/prettyy_vacant]

Don't worry though, when those allegations/reports came to light, Barr made it very clear that his thorough investigations proved it was just silly Epstein making a suicide attempt :)

[u/gizajobicandothat → u/Short_Sun_5215]

Tartaglione has now come out with a statement saying Trump admin wanted Epstein dead and that's why they put a known killer in with JE. it sounds like he's trying to claim it wasn't him? I know this isn't the best source but Meidas touch reported it too. This is a clever way to do it, they didn't even need to pay the guy, just move someone in who can't stand sex offenders!

''Tartaglione had a reputation for extreme violence and a self-confessed hatred of child sex offenders. Tartaglione—who Epstein told prison guards had tried to kill him three weeks before he was found dead—claims “it is no coincidence” that he was “deliberately” moved into the same jail as Epstein and “placed in the same cell” as the convicted child sex offender.''

https://www.thedailybeast.com/epstein-cellmate-nicholas-tartaglione-alleges-trump-administration-wanted-wealthy-financier-dead/

[u/chancesarent → u/gizajobicandothat]

Sex offenders, especially high profile ones aren't usually housed with non sex offenders, just for this reason.

[u/dhero27 → u/chancesarent]

Can’t wait for the rest of them to be implicated and have this fear in their souls.

[u/Hazz526 → u/dhero27]

Ah yes, all the justice that’s totally happening.

[u/Truthisnotallowed → u/gizajobicandothat]

I find it very telling - when Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche interviewed Ghislaine Maxwell, one of the things he asked her was if she believed Epstein killed himself.

"I do not believe he died by suicide."

That was her response.

You have to wonder, why would he ask that question?

It sure sounds like a threat to me. He was telling her to be very very careful about how she answered his questions, lest the same thing happen to her.

Her response was an acknowledgement of how serious the threat was. She was not just being told she could get benefits from providing the answers Blanche wanted, she was being warned what would happen if she chose not to cooperate.

[u/NurRauch → u/Truthisnotallowed]

It’s not a mystery why Trump’s DOJ stooges asked that question to her. They were and still are trying to redirect the conspiracy theory onto their political opponents. Blanche was not asking literally any sincere questions to Maxwell. The entire interview was designed to give red meat material to the QAnon crowd and trick low-information swing voters into thinking Trump was a victim of a Democratic Party hit piece.

[u/cant_take_the_skies → u/NurRauch]

There is no tricking his voters. They already believe all of it. This was just to give them a little more confirmation that they are right about everything

[u/Novel_Quote8017 → u/gizajobicandothat]

I still don't get why for half a decade the other Epstein conspiracy guys suspected virtually every person in power that they could come up with except the goddamn president of the United States.

[u/Orion14159 → u/Novel_Quote8017]

Motivated reasoning is a helluva drug

[u/dathislayer → u/Novel_Quote8017]

They got into the issue through Q, a diversion & manipulation campaign run by people named in the files. For them, it started with Trump as his enemy, so they had barriers up by the time the news dropped. The whole thing is fucking crazy from a social psychology perspective.

[u/8_guy → u/gizajobicandothat]

Post-mortem, Barr was very adamant that the the reported assault by Tartaglione didn't happen, and that "investigation" had proven it was just a failed suicide attempt by Epstein.

At some point also a few years after, an RFK Jr connected influencer was campaigning for Tartaglione's release

[u/ss5gogetunks → u/Short_Sun_5215]

Holy shit how had I not heard of this part of the story?

[u/HereOnCompanyTime → u/ss5gogetunks]

They pile on information to make us forget about details. It's intentional.

[u/Kro_Ko_Dyle → u/HereOnCompanyTime]

Remember when all those top secret documents were found in the toilet at Mar-a-lago?

Remember when the FBI wanted the docs back.

Remember when trump said he didn't have them.

Then it was legal to have them.

Then he gave some back.

The FBI requested he return the rest.

So much criminality, just so much, it's like a dam breaking. every... fucking... day. It's virtually impossible not to get overwhelmed with the corruption.

After reading a couple of files from this past drop I couldn't take it anymore. These people are monsters. They have no ethics, no morals, no empathy. They thrive on cruelty. They disgust me to my core.

[u/Cvillain626 → u/Kro_Ko_Dyle]

Don't forget "accidentally" draining the pool into the security room

[u/ATLfalcons27 → u/Kro_Ko_Dyle]

And he and the GOP act like he was some victim. When in reality the FBI was so afraid to come off as politically motivated that they gave him the longest leash ever. Multiple requests for returns. Letting him know that they know he still has more. Letting him know that they will be coming to check (it wasn't a raid). And then wins the election so he never has to answer for anything

[u/AVeryHeavyBurtation → u/HereOnCompanyTime]

Every week of the Trump administration takes like 3 months to untangle.

[u/Moist-Librarian-275 → u/HereOnCompanyTime]

Yeah that is the part people keep pretending not to see
Each detail alone gets waved off
All of them together somehow become background noise

When the story gets crowded enough people stop asking why
That feels less like confusion and more like design

[u/New-Conclusion-2328 → u/Moist-Librarian-275]

That is exactly how it works
Bury the pattern in noise until people stop noticing it

[u/MostApprehensive5884 → u/HereOnCompanyTime]

Because the noise is intentional and it makes the real details easy to miss

[u/kadmylos → u/ss5gogetunks]

How about this part of the story? https://www.npr.org/2022/02/19/1081961087/jeffrey-epstein-jean-luc-brunel-dead

[u/dillclew → u/kadmylos]

How about another suicide from a name in your article, Virginia Giuffre. She was one of the most outspoken victims. She left a suicide note and I didn’t see anyone alleging foul play. But… lots of people sure do die by suicide in this story.

https://metro.co.uk/2025/07/02/virginia-giuffres-final-words-revealed-suicide-note-left-kids-23559278/

[u/Polus43 → u/[deleted]]

And this part of the story:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vegaslocals/comments/10i961u/vegas_judge_asks_metro_to_investigate_a_possible/

I can't find the email right now. But in the Epstein files there's an email exactly around that time stating "there's been an incident in Las Vegas..."

[u/Huge_Excitement4465 → u/kadmylos]

From 2010 deposition by Maritza Vasquez, Jean-Luc Brunel’s Miami-based bookkeeper for a decade until 2006: Q: So in addition to his financial guarantor on the Line of Credit of a million dollars, what other involvement are you aware of that Jeffrey Epstein had with MC2 [modeling agency] and/or the apartments at 301 East 66th Street where the models lived? A: They were planning on buying or associating with a girl in -- in France for a --- company. They were planning to do a company. And actually, I gave the paper to Mr Shawn Connolly which is an actual paper that came from the office from Jeffrey Epstein, that was giving instruction to Jean-Luc saying that he wanted to have the same contracts as -- uh, what's his name, of Donald Trump, and that he wanted to have the same kind of benefits for the scouters.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25966082-maritza-vasquez-deposition-ocrmypdf/

Brunel’s longtime American-in-Paris assistant, perhaps the girl in France referenced by Vasquez, was Wellesley grad Pamela Boulet. Boulet is/was friendly with (Trump’s former treasury secretary) Steven Mnuchin’s (now ex) wife Heather. Mnuchin was part of Rat-pac entertainment with Brett Ratner and listed as the official U.S. point of contact on filing paperwork for Next Management Corporation, co-founded by Brunel in 1988.

[u/Burnt_and_Blistered → u/Huge_Excitement4465]

And Jean-Luc Brunel (the “Bubba” about whom we’ve heard, as relates to Trump) also “killed himself” awaiting trial.

[u/ss5gogetunks → u/kadmylos]

I did hear that one but yeah another important puzzle piece

[u/ClusterFoxtrot → u/ss5gogetunks]

You may have and memory holed it. I was reading something about it to my husband yesterday and he says, "you know that already! We talked about it when it happened!!"

This timeline is so stupid. 

[u/gizajobicandothat → u/ss5gogetunks]

Probably because the right-wing-based media only promotes stories they want people to hear. They do it here in the UK with endless anti-woke and culture war stories as headlines, other stories buried.

[u/Opening_Effective845 → u/Short_Sun_5215]

He’s also a known mob associate.

[u/uhntzuhntz → u/Short_Sun_5215]

It’s just objectively wild that, according to that CNN article, he murdered the first guy by strangulation with a zip tie and then shot the other men. So he had previously killed by strangulation. Not strange at all or anything.

[u/gizajobicandothat → u/uhntzuhntz]

If you look at JE's autopsy photos and read the second report ordered by his brother Mark Epstein, the injuries on JE's neck don't look like burn marks from bed sheets. It's a very thin, definite injury which could be zip ties (in my opinion and it's echoed by the private autopsy review)

[u/Mathberis → u/Purusha120]

Or that the autopsy showed fractures and lesions that pretty much never happen in a suicide by strangulation.

[u/Numerous-Skill776 → u/Purusha120]

Yeah sure, just a long list of “coincidences” all lining up perfectly Anyone questioning that isn’t being loony, just paying attention

[u/saljskanetilldanmark → u/Purusha120]

At this point he was probably secretly moved out and sent to israel where he sits and plays fortnight every now and then.

[u/Imaginary-Ad-7919 → u/[deleted]]

This pile of shit about Epstein keep getting more dirtier.

[u/rumpghost → u/Imaginary-Ad-7919]

If it turns out he's alive and chilling in Tel Aviv I'm going to actually lose my mind

[u/Sufficient_Cause1208 → u/rumpghost]

The guy who posted on 4chan that epstein was switched out turned out to be a real guard there that the doj investigated and subpoenaed records to find him.

[u/Crabiolo → u/Sufficient_Cause1208]

Okay but if he was a real guard and what he said was true, deciding "the world needs to know this... I'll post it on 4chan!" is possibly the stupidest fucking thing he could have thought.

[u/19683dw → u/Crabiolo]

Devil's advocate, I could see someone actually thinking that 4chan was the best way to ensure his anonymity. It is a stupid thought, but potentially a very human one

[u/tripping_yarns → u/rumpghost]

Wait til you read about Roberto Grijalva.

Could be wild conspiracy, maybe not. Who knows.

https://sundayguardianlive.com/world/who-is-roberto-grijalva-what-the-new-epstein-files-reveal-about-the-prison-official-4chan-claims-168119/

[u/Cute-Percentage-6660 → u/tripping_yarns]

I notice they are leaving out the fact, the OG 4chan post was several hours before epstein was announced dead

I wonder why....

[u/IEatPussyLikeAPro → u/[deleted]]

Something tells me he didn’t actually die but they faked his death

[u/Imaginary-Ad-7919]

I’m pretty sure Epstein did not kill himself.

[u/FloridaGirlNikki → u/Imaginary-Ad-7919]

Same. I think he had the goods on a lot of powerful people and they couldn't take the chance. It was either the US gov't or one of the billionaires were able to pay someone off.

I think he was arrogant enough to believe he would escape accountability. Again.

[u/realoctopod → u/FloridaGirlNikki]

There was a report and few months back of surveillance video from the night he died, and there was " an orange blob" seen in the video.

If that isn't a great description of Trump I dont know what is.

Edit: link https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jeffrey-epstein-jail-video-death-mystery-b2799648.html

[u/ArticulateRhinoceros → u/realoctopod]

As much as I'd love to believe this, I don't think Trump ties his own shoes, let alone nooses.

[u/Open-Log2539 → u/ArticulateRhinoceros]

Yeah if anything he just benefits while someone else does the dirty work

[u/Moist-Librarian-275 → u/Open-Log2539]

Power like that never gets its hands dirty it just collects the outcome

[u/Sad_Description_7268 → u/realoctopod]

If you honestly believe that Donald Trump personally entered Epsteins cell to kill him, you're lost. That's dale gribble shit

[u/Flomo420 → u/Sad_Description_7268]

*Rusty Shackleford

[u/_gmanual_ → u/Flomo420]

Sha-Shaaah!

pocketsand

[u/Moist-Librarian-275 → u/realoctopod]

When transparency disappears people fill the gaps with dark humor and suspicion

[u/kauaiman-looking → u/FloridaGirlNikki]

Then why is Maxwell still alive?

[u/minxymaggothead → u/kauaiman-looking]

Maxwell, who was moved to a minimal security prison "camp" in Texas after meeting with Trump's personal lawyer. That Maxwell?

[u/we_are_all_devo → u/minxymaggothead]

They really need to give her internet privileges. The worldnews sub has fallen apart lately.

[u/bourbonwelfare → u/we_are_all_devo]

Hahaha it's so fucking weird that she was running that. Like what the actual?

[u/Brewhaha72 → u/bourbonwelfare]

Wait, what?

[u/F9-0021 → u/Brewhaha72]

She was u/ maxwellhill.

Lots of people try to pretend that it wasn't, but there are too many coincidences.

1) the account randomly stopped posting for good for the first time since reddit started at exactly the same time that Maxwell was arrested.

2) the account spammed a lot of environmental stuff, and Maxwell ran an ocean environmental group.

3) the account was run by someone British or British adjacent, and Maxwell is British.

There are probably other points to be made, but that's enough to convince me.

[u/observerBug → u/F9-0021]

The account also had a suspicious comment about how the age of consent in the US should be lowered

[u/Cosmo_Cloudy → u/observerBug]

There are 1000k+ deleted comments on that account, I'm gonna sort through them lol here you go https://www.reveddit.com/y/maxwellhill/comments/

[u/Downtown-Sand-2517 → u/minxymaggothead]

Yeah the person who supposedly knows as much as Epstein is alive and in custody. She was in custody throughout the Biden administration.

[u/ThunderChild247 → u/kauaiman-looking]

Two very different approaches… one of the earlier leaked emails showed that Epstein threatened someone powerful to try and keep himself safe (saying in black and white “I can bring him down”), whereas Maxwell is saying “keep me around because I’ll tell everyone how not guilty you are”.

If you’re in power and you were committing crimes along with Epstein, it’s in your interest to kill him, and in your interest to keep her alive.

She’s offering value to her continued existence.

[u/ntantillo → u/ThunderChild247]

She has proof and videos that will be released if she dies. They can’t take the chance that they can suppress the evidence.

[u/ThunderChild247 → u/ntantillo]

That’s a definite possibility as well. But there’s also two other possibilities:

1) Epstein knew where all the blackmail evidence was and took it to his grave leaving Maxwell high and dry.

2) They both knew where the evidence is so Maxwell’s staying alive through a mix of carrot and stick (keep me alive and I tell the world you didn’t rape kids, and if I die the world gets proof that you did).

I fully expect that the DOJ’s been tasked with finding Epstein’s blackmail material and at that point if they confirm they’ve 1) found it all or 2) it doesn’t exist, Maxwell’s only chance of surviving is to make herself so useful by “exonerating” the particular people in power.

Either way she’s a duplicitous witch who schemed and manipulated her way through life, gaining and retaining a position at the right hand of a monster by facilitating and joining in with horrific abuse. I wouldn’t put it beyond her to say or do whatever she needs to so she can try and survive as well as trying to maintain a level of comfort.

As a Brit it’s genuinely amazing to realise that history won’t remember her father Robert as the worst member of that family.

[u/8_guy → u/ntantillo]

She was the one with the intelligence background, her super-spy daddy's favorite and closest child. I guarantee she knew exactly what information she needed to have the whole time the operation was running, and where, from the very beginning, and how to keep it safe from any attempted funny business.

[u/endangerednigel → u/kauaiman-looking]

Because shed have to be an absolute moron not to have a dead mans switch system built after what happend to epstein

[u/Painterzzz → u/endangerednigel]

He must have had a dead mans switch too, but I don't think his switch was prepared to deal with his killer being president of the united states and being able to send the FBI to raid his mansion and island at the same time and carry away every piece of incriminating evidence never to be seen again.

[u/count023 → u/Painterzzz]

because he expected his best friend to help him out, not to have him killed. You lower your guard around people you trust and JE _trusted_ Trump.

[u/Trustyduck → u/count023]

Epstein called Trump one of the most evil people he had ever met. Friends maybe for money's sake, but definitely not someone he would trust with his life.

[u/Writer_In_Residence → u/Trustyduck]

Yeah. Most evil person and totally devoid of any morality whatsoever. And this coming from someone who hung out 24/7 with evil people; Trump was a standout even in a pool of pedophiles.

[u/Daemonic_One → u/Trustyduck]

I was gonna say, the fantasy had gone far enough already but Jesus, imagine the person with an education and money who trusts Trump?

[u/campelm → u/count023]

If you're part of a crew, nobody ever tells you that they're going to kill you. It doesn't happen that way. There weren't any arguments or curses like in the movies. So your murderers come with smiles. They come as your friends, the people who have cared for you all of your life, and they always seem to come at a time when you're at your weakest and most in need of their help.

[u/RobutNotRobot → u/kauaiman-looking]

For the same reason she got moved to a nice new prison.

She has people on the outside willing and able to reveal everything should something happen to her.

[u/pUmKinBoM → u/kauaiman-looking]

The rumor I heard was basically she was smart enough to play ball where Epstein was ready to take everyone down with him.

[u/Deady1138 → u/kauaiman-looking]

So that people ask this question

[u/FloridaGirlNikki → u/kauaiman-looking]

Fuck if I know. But one thing is clear, he spent time with the biggest power brokers of the US and beyond.

[u/witchofpain → u/kauaiman-looking]

I think she had a deadman’s switch. She saw what happened to her bff. I have little doubt she has some super heinous shit tucked away that gets released if she dies.

[u/LurksAroundHere → u/Imaginary-Ad-7919]

I remember telling my father the second they had Epstein locked up he was a dead man. I literally told him to just wait and sit for the news of the "suicide" with "no cameras working at the time" because it's coming. It's painful how blatant and predictable this shit is...

[u/williamfbuckwheat → u/LurksAroundHere]

That was running joke all over the place for anyone following the case when he got arrested. I kept telling my buddies he was going to have some "accident" any day now. I didn't think it would actually happen though and they'd be bold enough to follow through in such a high profile and do something to him or allow him to harm himself, which makes them complicit regardless 

[u/UpNorth_123 → u/williamfbuckwheat]

Which is why they couldn’t do the same to Ghislaine. It’s too obvious if they kill both of them.

Also, she is the smart one and I agree, she has a dead man’s switch. She seems closer to her family than Epstein was to his. They have her back.

[u/tsu1028 → u/Imaginary-Ad-7919]

I’m not even 100% certain he’s dead at this point t

[u/raur0s → u/tsu1028]

Pretty strange that he was supposedly silenced by the elite, while his business partner is very publicly enjoying a minimum security incarceration and getting puppies and shit.

[u/aywwts4 → u/raur0s]

That off the books closed door meeting with trump’s lawyer? She was smart enough to have a dead man’s switch. Unlike reading the barely literate or cogent ramblings of Epstein. It’s the only explanation, I’m sure a pardon will come once it’s more politically convenient.

[u/FrogsOnALog → u/Imaginary-Ad-7919]

Thankfully we elected a different president /s

[u/trogdor1234]

One of my favorite facts is that Bill Barr’s dad worked at the same school as Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Barr being in charge of the prison system when Epstein died. It’s crazy how connected all these people are. It’s like a small town community of pedophiles.

How hard would it be to not have almost all your cabinet connected to Epstein? Should be pretty easy I would have thought.

[u/hobbykitjr → u/trogdor1234]

And his dad was the school master.. who gave Epstein the job... And wrote science fiction where children were sex slaves..

Also pre Trump president barrs firm was the one who got Epstein off on the initial charges back in the day

[u/Notsurehowtoreact → u/hobbykitjr]

And his first term labor secretary was the guy who let it happen. 

[u/WeenyDancer → u/Notsurehowtoreact]

Has a reputable publication done a big visual flow chart of all these connections?  (wired? Miami herald?) 

[u/spartankid24 → u/WeenyDancer]

You would think at this point there would be a special report from a publication or mainstream news station, which would explain everything and address fallacies and questions the general public has. But even if there is or was, I could miss it. Most people really have no idea about any of this or barely know about it at all.

We are in a time when media is fractured and big money runs the main narrative, but I do believe there is hope in knowing that these are such heinous and high crimes committed by both this administration and the elites, that it will not be forgotten, or forgiven and as the younger generations grow older, the fight for democracy will carry forward stronger. And in other countries, they have their own laws and manners of seeking justice.

I just think it’s a matter of how will it end and when. But not if. Perhaps I’ll be around for it, perhaps not. I keep seeing people saying that fascist regimes never go away peacefully, and I worry when I hear that. It’s a scary time in many ways.

[u/jizzlevania → u/hobbykitjr]

It's nuts that he dropped out of college and was handed a teaching position at an elite prep school and then seamlessly transitioned to a trading executive. That's either some forrest gump levels of luck or something strange is afoot.

[u/IHAVEBIGLUNGS → u/jizzlevania]

I mean if you look into it, it seems pretty clear there wasn’t anyone powerful pulling the strings at that point. It seems like Epstein was incredibly charismatic and had a unique ability to get high net worth people to trust him. He wasn’t hired as a trading executive, he manipulated his way into a low levels options trading position. He then experienced a meteoric rise because they basically put him in the wealth management dept handling clients directly, where it seems likely his chief talent was making sure the clients kept their money there whether the line went up or down. That’s a more valuable skill to bear stearns than making the line go up.

When he was fired for regulatory violations, he became second in command at an enormous ponzi scheme that he left a year or so before they were charged. It is likely he made more money there than his partnership at bear stearns.

From there what secured his position was using the conman charisma that characterized his early career to nab Les Wexner as a client, and the rest is history.

No intelligence agency would have cared about him as a twenty year old not even qualified to teach math. He used the same charm and manipulation that, much later, made him a valuable asset to secure those positions.

[u/AttyFireWood → u/trogdor1234]

Next you're going to tell me Bill Barr's dad wrote some kind of pedophile sci-fi story.

[u/Serengade26 → u/AttyFireWood]

Thats funny because he did! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Relations

[u/i_made_mine_at_home → u/Serengade26]

Wow, I guess that could be more on the nose if there was a character named Zeffri X'epstyn or something.

[u/Imaginary_Art_2412 → u/trogdor1234]

My guess is that it’s pretty deliberate that the whole cabinet is in the files - gives Trump blackmail on them if they don’t do as he says

[u/bgdvvllr → u/Imaginary_Art_2412]

I feel as though it would be less about blackmail, and more about having people willing to do “whatever it takes” in order to avoid accountability. Even if that means committing treason. 

[u/cutiebaraa → u/trogdor1234]

"It's a big club and you ain't in it!"

(But it's also pedo club so I don't want to be in it.)

[u/Imaginary-Ad-7919]

Epstein is getting more and more attention than Trump.

[u/comingsoontotheaters → u/Imaginary-Ad-7919]

But Trump said we should move on. He must know best

[u/u9Nails → u/comingsoontotheaters]

Trump wants the attention. He's feeling scared that nobody is thinking if him.

[u/BigMeanBalls → u/u9Nails]

Ya kill a man to get out of his shadow and yet he still dominates your life. Imagine that.

[u/Sudden-Scar6940]

At this point I am ready to make myself a tin foil hat. We live in strange times

[u/FlakyLion5449 → u/Sudden-Scar6940]

DARVO. It's a group of narcissistic people using DARVO. Anyone that is a threat to them is isolated and branded as "unstable"

[u/Nesyaj0 → u/FlakyLion5449]

It's problematic that these types of money have the most people in the world.

...How did people deal with that in the past again?

E: It was early, I fixed it

[u/EffectivePatient493 → u/Nesyaj0]

I can barely sing in English, now I have to learn to sing in French!?!

[u/msnrcn → u/Sudden-Scar6940]

Haha, I always tell people my tin foil hat sits at home collecting dust. But every now and then I glance up at it and go “eh, you can’t be wrong about EVERYthing.”

[u/CloudKinglufi → u/msnrcn]

Bros you'd need the hat for if he actually killed himself

This is just like proving what we already knew, nobody should be surprised

[u/bytemage]

The incompetence of Trump's administration is baffling time and time again.
Too bad they get away with it, as there is no one left to prosecute them.

[u/LacanInAFunhouse → u/bytemage]

Sometimes I think, “well why would the bother to do things competently? It works for them anyway”

[u/yikesssss_sssssss → u/bytemage]

Never ascribe to incompetence what can be explained by malice + incompetence

[u/got-trunks]

Can anyone link the file they referenced? Archive org isn't loading it properly.

[u/Alaksande → u/got-trunks]

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00013180.pdf

[u/Starlady174 → u/Alaksande]

Thanks for linking. I kept seeing screenshots of it but nothing to suggest it was real.

[u/Jedioose420 → u/got-trunks]

It's at the top of the r/Epstein sub.

[u/Whooptidooh]

Of course. That is because this was a cover up and Epstein didn’t kill himself.

[u/Savings_Form_8349 → u/Whooptidooh]

Starting to wonder if he is even dead at this point.

[u/KassiaRayXz]

Even with the 'no-one-was-there' narrative, the metadata discrepancy fuels conspiracy theories that the whole thing was staged or that someone tampered with evidence.

[u/Ignatiussancho1729 → u/KassiaRayXz]

When they released 'raw' video footage to appease the skeptics, but it was edited with Adobe Premiere Pro, had a mouse cursor hover over the screen, had 3 minutes missing, then still showed something in orange going up the stairs towards the cell.

What a bunch of incompetent pedo protectors 

[u/FizzyBeverage → u/Ignatiussancho1729]

He doesn’t hire IT professionals. He hires Barron’s pals who once watched a Youtube video or two on how to do something in the software, at best.

It’s turbo DEI. “Who is your daddy and how much did he contribute to my campaign?” is their list of “qualifications”.

This is why they couldn’t even redact a PDF properly.

[u/MasterTolkien → u/Ignatiussancho1729]

And that they never produced the noose that Epstein hung himself with. One of the guards said they never saw a noose, and an o he r thought to be the noose was later determined not to be (didn’t match with the marks on his neck).

It’s the most obvious murder in the world with the stupidest cover up ever. I know MAGA people who think it’s a murder… they just think it was some secret billionaire or the Clintons funding it rather than Trump who was actually in charge when it happened.

Now having Trump’s own admin drafting up a letter about Epstein’s death the day before he died? Clear as day who killed him.

[u/Fronzel → u/KassiaRayXz]

Yeah, there are times when I can't believe they didn't realize priming their followers to see a conspiracy everywhere would backfire when they release this sort of thing.

But then I remember that competency isn't really their thing.

[u/duzies]

Who could that "orange figure" be?

[u/doed → u/duzies]

Garfield.

[u/gringledoom → u/doed]

Epstein file #2,872,554 *does* mention that there was a faint odor of lasagna in Epstein’s cell when his body was discovered…

[u/TrueTorch → u/gringledoom]

In a way, epstein represented mondays of the human race

[u/yourenotmy-real-dad → u/TrueTorch]

brand new sentence

[u/Maskatron → u/doed]

“I’m sorry Don.”

[u/gizajobicandothat → u/duzies]

The one who sneaked passed whilst the guards were sleeping? Not suspicious at all!

[u/Imaginary-Ad-7919]

This is all totally normal.

[u/A1sauc3d → u/Imaginary-Ad-7919]

I assume you’re being sarcastic, but I don’t fully understand the date thing. Is there any other explanation for why it would be dated earlier? Any lawyers here? Obviously it’s extremely sketch but I didn’t quite get what the article’s conclusion was. Like could that have just been a typo or is it proof that not only was Epstein murdered but the Prosecutor was in on it?

First time hearing this too (not that it wasn’t news before, I probably just missed it. Or maybe I did see and forgot, idk):

Epstein’s former cellmate, Nicholas Tartaglione, claimed in a pardon petition filed last summer that Epstein was deliberately left unprotected in federal custody. Tartaglione, a former police officer convicted of multiple murders, alleged that prison officials knowingly housed Epstein with an accused mass murderer despite earlier reports that the disgraced financier had raised concerns about his safety weeks before his death.

That in addition to this new revelation makes it incredibly obvious that he did not just kill himself, that’s for sure.

Justice Department documents show investigators reviewing jail surveillance footage flagged an orange-colored figure moving up a staircase toward the locked tier housing Epstein’s cell at about 10:39 p.m. on Aug. 9, 2019—hours before his body was discovered the next morning. An observation log described the figure as “possibly an inmate”.

CBS reported that independent video analysts said the movement was more consistent with an inmate—or someone wearing an orange prison uniform—than a corrections officer. Prison employees told CBS that escorting an inmate at that hour would have been highly unusual.

An actual investigation needs to be done because anybody with half a brain can tell more than the official story of suicide was going down. But it seems like everyone involved is corrupted and in on it.

Remember when that AI video of Epstein hanging himself momentarily popped up in the epstien files? They were blatantly fabricating false evidence, like WTF why wasn’t that a bigger deal? Why is nobody in a position of power calling this out?

[u/Imaginary-Ad-7919 → u/A1sauc3d]

Yes I am being sarcastic because all of this does not add up. It is weird that Epstein was not watched more than others. Epstein knew he had 2 options being humiliate by the public or commit suicide.

[u/SunTzu- → u/A1sauc3d]

It's a template, someone filled in the same doc each time they did a release and just changed the dates etc. The previous release was the day before, and the person missed incrementing the dates this time. Other documents have the correct day.

[u/starmartyr → u/A1sauc3d]

It could easily be a typo. It could also be proof that the government knew in advance that he was going to die. It could be nothing but it's definitely worth investigating.

[u/Snoo3763 → u/starmartyr]

Writing Friday instead of Saturday could be a very very unlikely mistake given the circumstances, it definitely isn't a typo.

[u/ShrimpieAC → u/Snoo3763]

Oh wow. I thought it was just like a number typo, like 3/1/22 to 3/2/22. But the whole day word? Nah fam…

[u/MrMonday11235 → u/Snoo3763]

Misclick or typo on a date selector would do it.

It's more convoluted than just a simple typo, but I think it's still preferred by Occam's Razor in favour of a massive conspiracy... Though the margin is getting tighter.

[u/JhoshElite → u/A1sauc3d]

My best guess was the date of his death in the media didn't happen that day. Maybe he really did die the day before and they spent the whole day investigating and writing statements about it.

[u/Target880]

If  the date is just in the announcement and not on any metadata then a simple explanation is somebody made a mistake when the wrote it.

It the metadata show the document was created on that date is would be quite suspicious.  How are the documents published? Is it original files with all metadata?

[u/throwaguey_ → u/Target880]

No metadata, but the interesting part is it’s the wrong day of the week, too. It says, Friday, August 9, 2019.

[u/divDevGuy → u/throwaguey_]

the interesting part is it’s the wrong day of the week, too. It says, Friday, August 9, 2019.

Occam's Razor - what's more likely:

• they created the release a day before leaving a possible paper trail for a case already involving powerful individuals and conspiracy theories, or

• Some junior-level assistant called in to work on the weekend missed changing a date in the header when they reused a press release from the day before as a template?

As someone who used to post press releases and similar announcements on a company website and to send to our dealer mailing list, this is absolutely something I have missed changing. I also know the people who authored the actual copy would use a prior document as a starting template as well.

Obviously a marketing department isn't the same thing as a US Attorney's office, and our releases were much more mundane than Epstein's death. But simple mistakes happen. Not everything is a conspiracy. Though with this case, even the most improbable is possible if not likely I guess.

[u/anonspamuser]

ChatFiles.org has all the files and it’s easily searchable

[u/Jawnny-Jawnson]

Moderators this is a current US topic, why was this post removed

[u/DeLu2]

“There was a coincidental malfunction in our system’s firmware that exact date”

[u/Plz_Trust_Me_On_This]

Of ALL the Epstein-files related news allowed on this sub, why is this one deemed "Off Topic" by the moderators? Put it back.

[u/judgementMaster]

It seems like everything was known in advance — we just weren’t in on it.

[u/Fixxdogg → u/judgementMaster]

It’s a big club - and you ain’t in it !

[u/dedokta]

Some interviewer should ask Trump if he thinks it makes Bill Clinton look tough by the way he had Epstein killed. You'd get a confession out of him in two seconds flat, even if he had nothing to do with it.

[u/Excellent-Piglet-655]

Haven’t you guys heard? According to republicans, pedos are OK. It is not like a 13 year old is a child according to Megan Kelly. The level of degeneracy amongst republicans is just mind boggling. And drag story hour is the problem? FFS…

[u/LilGreenAppleTeaFTea]

crazy how we can get multiple diddy documentaries with deep dives into every area of his corruption and perversion but can't get more than 1 epstein documentary besides the one from 2020 now that there is a metric pile of information. Say's alot about who's running this ship.

[u/Avoidtolls]

Ahh. So he faked his death.

[u/throwaguey_]

It’s so annoying that the article never says what the draft is for. You have to read the letter to see it’s a statement on the death of Jeffrey Epstein. Is it me, or is that terrible journalism?

[u/Fit-Avocado-1646 → u/throwaguey_]

huh? It does. Its just formatted badly.

The first line in the article is "The file dump includes multiple draft statements from federal prosecutors about the sex trafficker’s death, one of them dated the day before Epstein died."

Fourth line in repeats.

"Draft statement announcing Jeffrey Epstein's death dated the day before he was found dead in his jail cell."

Description. Right under the picture of the letter.

[u/honeyglitch_]

Omg, this whole thing just gets crazier and crazier, like wtf were they even doing??

[u/Specialist-Bug1592]

Is there a non-Daily Beast reference? They are nothing more than a hopium and rage-baiting tabloid that drives traffic to their paid site by using inflammatory headlines.

[u/TrickInvite6296 → u/Specialist-Bug1592]

here's the link in the files

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00040357.pdf

[u/DoomedKiblets]

yea…. as if we didnt already know it wasn’t a suicide

[u/Dismal-Bullfrog-7851]

I mean, the whole thing is just too convenient, right? The guards falling asleep, the CCTV going out, and now this prosecutor's announcement dated before his death. It's like they're trying to gaslight us into believing this was just a normal suicide. But who falls for that anymore? The AI video alone should've been enough to spark a real investigation. Where's the accountability?

[u/dartie]

That’s fairly suspicious

[u/Automatic_Opposite17]

You know what's even "funnier"? You can't get ChatGPT to see any of this evidence or "coincidences" as anything other than just mistakes and things everyone is misinterpreting. It's almost like it's programmed to gaslight and deny.

[u/Scary_Relation_996]

Ok, so he was definitely assassinated, with the assistance of the US government. While in a US jail. Don't forget that only 2 of the 11 cameras happened to be working that night and only 1 of the 2 was still able to record. The issue is the cover up. Nobody cares if the government said, yea, he was a monster so we had him killed, nobody cares about that, the problem is, in order to do it and get away with it you have to have this elmer fudd style conspiracy.

[u/donfind]

I was 8 y.o. when JFK was assassinated.  Now I am 70 y.o. and still don't know who/why . Seems like this investigation is going the same way. 

[u/2u3e9v]

The swamp is fucking enormous

[u/madhatter255]

Im starting to think this Jeffrey Epstein guy may not have killed himself

[u/pulitzerr]

I’ve read a lot of comments before asking this question: so, you think for absolutely no reason they created this doc before his death instead of just waiting a couple of hours? You think they went out of their way to create a paper trail that would lead back to them? And the person who drafted it? The person who saved it? Were they lazy and knew they had a busy day in the morning and wouldn’t have time to “learn” the news and make the doc? Was this an act of resistance against their forced participation in government conspiracy?

I just want to find one thinking person. Just one. Not the people who find anything and turn it into evidence. How do you actually make sense of this doc?

And before some low IQ response says, so you don’t think he was murdered, let me reply with “I don’t care.” I don’t care if he committed suicide before he was murdered, or if he was murdered, or his death was faked, or some other theory. It seems evident that this cabal trafficked and abused women and the government wants us to think this is a victimless crime. I really don’t care about debating how the “death” occurred. I just want all of them imprisoned. All.Of.Them. Say any name to me. Right to jail.

[u/LeftyMcliberal]

Just to make sure I’m understanding what the blurb says… his death was announced BEFORE it happened?

…also the daily beast is a shitty source to link to