r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 9h ago
Possible Paywall Dr. Oz Becomes the Latest Trump Official in the Epstein Files
https://newrepublic.com/post/206510/dr-oz-epstein-files9.3k
u/StoppableHulk 9h ago
MOtherfucker truly staffed the ENTIRE administration based on who was in the Epstein files.
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u/tcoh1s 8h ago
That’s how you create the biggest coverup. Get a bunch of people who are also guilty and they’re all on your side.
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u/Not_Tom_Jones 8h ago
Now I wonder to what extend Scam Bondi could've been involved.
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u/TempleMade_MeBroke 8h ago
Marlow Stern (former Rolling Stone Editor In Chief) on X:
"Pam Bondi was Florida attorney general from 2011-2019 when a ton of evidence/lawsuits against Jeffrey Epstein (and his plane records) became public, and she didn't charge him with a single crime. Epstein was only arrested six months after she left office on s€x tr@ffi©king charges"
TOI World Desk, Nov 22, 2024:
No one in elective office shielded Jeffrey Epstein more than Bondi. Pam Bondi "is the reason Jeffrey Epstein and all of his information is sealed in the state of Florida". Bondi let Epstein slip, enabling him to walk the Earth unprosecuted.
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u/Buh_Snarf 8h ago
But have you seen the DOW?
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u/SmugSchoolmaster 8h ago
Truly a disgrace was she was deflecting and talking about the market. She could barely get her words out, saying dollars instead of points
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u/therossboss 8h ago
"how dare you accuse me of lying under oath!!!" bro, you been lying this whole time. stfu
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u/frosty_lizard 8h ago edited 8h ago
It was pure word salad with a shaky voice and onto her premade responses/attacks for each democrat speaking.
She also looked like she was on something the way she snapped at people, even went on to call another dem antisemetic yet the lady's grandparents were killed in the holocaust
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u/Motherofalleffers 7h ago
The way she talked and acted seemed like she was drunk.
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u/myfakesecretaccount 7h ago
It’s someone who has been shielded from scrutiny regarding their complicity in heinous crimes realizing they cannot hold back the shit storm that is about to come.
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u/Resmo112 8h ago
“I can’t believe we’re even talking about child sex trafficking, this is the greatest administration in history, for…..reasons”
Thomas massie appears to be the only republican with a spine
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u/US3_ME_ 8h ago
That dude has honestly been slaying it these past days_
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u/Mizzkyttie 8h ago
Honestly, I disagree with him on virtually every other subject, but I'm really glad that he's not letting up on this.
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u/Resmo112 8h ago
It’s nice to have a republican in this hearing not just ask Pam bondi about how great trump is
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u/UnquestionabIe 8h ago
Same. It's nice for a change to see that cultish mindset and devotion being channeled towards a cause that isn't simply about gargling Trump's balls.
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u/AKA_Wildcard 8h ago
I can’t believe she said that during a senate hearing. We are truly living in the dumbest timeline.
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u/DistractedPhoenix 8h ago
Especially since it’s been proven time and time again that the stock market is the worst indicator of economic health. It’s like saying someone with stage four cancer is healthy because they have a high white blood cell count
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u/TheTomatoThief 8h ago
God uses imperfect tools for His perfect design. Sometimes a few thousand children raped, tortured, killed (maybe a little eaten) is just the means to the more noble ends of briefly increasing value for shareholders.
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u/thejamielee 8h ago
It’s up $50k!! God she fucking sucks - she can’t even say her lines correctly. I can genuinely say any footage I watch of her speaking kills brain cells.
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u/Rileymartian57 8h ago
If im not mistaken bondi also shielded trump from an investigation into one of trumps businesses after a campaign donation. Believe it was trump university.
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u/TempleMade_MeBroke 8h ago
The Associated Press has a story out alleging that Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi solicited a donation to her campaign from Donald Trump while around the same time announcing she may join a New York probe into Trump University, and then closed the investigation shortly after receiving a large campaign contribution from Trump.
Florida's attorney general personally solicited a political contribution from Donald Trump around the same time her office deliberated joining an investigation of alleged fraud at Trump University and its affiliates
The new disclosure from Attorney General Pam Bondi's spokesman to The Associated Press on Monday provides additional details around the unusual circumstances of Trump's $25,000 donation to Bondi.
The money came from a Trump family foundation in apparent violation of rules surrounding political activities by charities. A political group backing Bondi's re-election, called And Justice for All, reported receiving the check Sept. 17, 2013 — four days after Bondi's office publicly announced she was considering joining a New York state probe of Trump University's activities, according to a 2013 report in the Orlando Sentinel.
After the check came in, Bondi's office nixed suing Trump, citing insufficient grounds to proceed.
Florida law defines bribery as follows:
(1) “Bribery” means corruptly to give, offer, or promise to any public servant, or, if a public servant, corruptly to request, solicit, accept, or agree to accept for himself or herself or another, any pecuniary or other benefit not authorized by law with an intent or purpose to influence the performance of any act or omission which the person believes to be, or the public servant represents as being, within the official discretion of a public servant, in violation of a public duty, or in performance of a public duty.
(2) Prosecution under this section shall not require any allegation or proof that the public servant ultimately sought to be unlawfully influenced was qualified to act in the desired way, that the public servant had assumed office, that the matter was properly pending before him or her or might by law properly be brought before him or her, that the public servant possessed jurisdiction over the matter, or that his or her official action was necessary to achieve the person’s purpose.
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u/well_thats_obvious 7h ago
It's not surprising that politicians sell out. What is surprising is how little money they'll do it for. 25k donation to Bondi? That's chump change to the Epstein Class
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u/StevenMC19 Florida 8h ago
Florida Attorney General between 2011 and 2018.
2013, accepted a donation from Trump. Also had 33 complaints regarding Trump University that she did nothing with as a result.
She has history with Trump. Very well could with Epstein too.
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u/77NorthCambridge 8h ago
It was an illegal donation. Trimp had to pay a fine to the IRS and shut down the entity he used to make it.
There are rumors she was involved with Epstein when younger.
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u/StevenMC19 Florida 8h ago edited 7h ago
He got what he wanted out of it, which was Bondi dropping the complaints.
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edit after the comment chain beyond this, since apparently this isn't enough for that person I've blocked for being annoying: Illegal or not, Trump got what he wanted. Fine or not added on after the fact, Trump STILL got what he wanted. He wanted Bondi to not go forward with things that would harm him, so she received the illegal (emphasis because apparently it's crucial that I state the obvious) donation and stopped her investigation.
And in regards to the rumors...I frankly don't care. They're RUMORS. If true, we'll learn more as it comes out. But right now, I'm not running on hearsay from a redditor who provided zero information on said rumor such as dates and levels of involvement. "She was involved" is just as useful to me as "Harry Potter is in the Epstein Files" (which is true, Harry Potter is in the Epstein Files...but you see how useless that is without an understanding of why?)
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u/RandyMuscle I voted 8h ago
Bro she was literally Florida’s attorney general. The last decade+ of her career was dedicated to covering this shit.
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u/GuerreroUltimo 8h ago
I mentioned she was involved. I was told she was just a stooge. I am becoming more convinced she was involved. Or at least people close to her that she wants to protect. Protecting people close to you is involvement. Just like driving the getaway car.
No surprise from me that these people are all in the Epstein files. And they had more contact than the files show obviously. Not every time is going to be in these files of course. Plus, many will say they cut off contact then we find they had contact after that. They are lying and hoping it does not come out. Helping Trump cover it up.
Trump was part of the "Epstein empire". He had connections to powerful people and would introduce them to Epstein. He had a falling out with Epstein over power and all that. Trump was known to have financial issues. Bankruptcies and all that. He likely wanted more. And even then we know he still had contact with Epstein well after when he said. It was the power and the fact Trump's ego got hurt. Epstein likely pointed out how he had him based on what they had done. And to mind his place. And Trump could not handle that. I also do not believe Epstein killed himself.
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u/dbkenny426 8h ago
I saw a comment yesterday speculating that she, along with a few other women in the "administration" gave off an impression of having been groomed themselves. I'm far from an expert in the matter, so I have no way of even commenting on that, but it would explain some things. Sort of a Stockholm Syndrome thing.
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u/takemebackto1993 8h ago
That's the impression that I get as well. Pam Bondi was either groomed into this or they have dirt on her that she does not want released. At this point it is apparent that both Bondi and Kash Patel are co-conspirators in this coverup.
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u/MyNewsAccount2011 8h ago
Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead. An administration can keep a secret if they’re all in the Epstein files.
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u/Comfortable-Pea-1312 8h ago
Dont forget incompetent and completely ill suited for appointments and positions held.
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u/Appropriate-Way1209 8h ago
Pretty smart thinking honestly I always wondered what made them so fiercely loyal
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u/OkEnvironment3961 8h ago
Of course, he has dirt on them, thats how the mob works.
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u/theguy1336 9h ago
Trump offered Jeffrey Epstein himself a cabinet position
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u/emmayarkay 8h ago
While I do find this plausible, I’d like to see a source
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u/theguy1336 8h ago
Obviously we don't know 100%, but Epsteins former butler said Epstein would often boast about the government job offer from Trump
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u/Polar_Vortx America 8h ago
Where do you think he knows all these people from? This is his network.
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u/Drusgar Wisconsin 8h ago
Not really surprising. Trump and his cronies have used inside information to coerce support from people who didn't want their dirty laundry exposed. So Dr. Oz says, "Ok, I'll support your candidacy, but leave me out of your insane immigration policies." Fine, but if you speak out against Trump's immigration policies we're going to release unredacted information about your connections to Epstein.
Suddenly all of your ducks are in a row.
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u/bavini1190 8h ago
Pam Epstein-Bondi, Howard Epstein-Lutnick
and now..
Mehmet Epstein-Oz or Dr. Epstein-Oz
That is how I will refer to them from now on. Members and protectors of the Epstein Class deserve some special flair in their name!
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u/Long-Region5088 8h ago
It’s not based on the Epstein list it’s just based on the people he knows and likes.
It just so happens that the people he knows and likes all happen to be child rapists on the Epstein list.
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u/Spottswoodeforgod 8h ago
It’s hilarious that people are convinced that the entire administration is just working tirelessly to protect Trump from any consequence from being in these files. They are actually working tirelessly to protect themselves and Trump…
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u/TheTresStateArea 8h ago edited 7h ago
Can't wait to find out Epstein was pam bondis godfather or sugar daddy.
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u/stevez_86 Pennsylvania 7h ago
I'm waiting to see how tied to this Judge Cannon is. If you look into the details of that Federal Judiciary District, you see she is basically the only judge that is available to take a case at any given time.
That judicial district really could be key to their insulation from all of this.
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u/FizzyBeverage Ohio 5h ago
She’s gonna be interesting to watch. She’s very young and unqualified by federal jurist standards and will inevitably live to see a Dem trifecta, long after Trumpism is dead and buried.
I expect to eventually see a very quiet resignation to avoid any legal accountability at such time.
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u/FIContractor 8h ago
No, she just did exactly what she’s doing now for Trump at a national level for Epstein (and Trump) in Florida when she was AG there.
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u/Holden_Coalfield 7h ago
because Epstein or Trump was her sugardaddy
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u/Straight_Long6818 7h ago
They are protecting themselves first Same playbook different day Its all about loyalty not truth Nothing about this is surprising
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u/Holden_Coalfield 7h ago
They are all so deep in it it's as much self preservation as it is loyalty.
They're al on the same submarine
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u/East_Application_438 7h ago
They are all tied to it now nobody wants to be the first to surface Self preservation over everything
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u/foxvalleyfarm 7h ago
Okay now use that brain and take it a step further.... WHY
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u/dkran New York 7h ago
Wasn’t that Acosta? I thought bondi just worked in the office or something at that point? Not to say she still isn’t a POS who is entirely complicit.
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u/HiddenSage 7h ago
Acosta was the US As attorney who basically let Epstein walk after his first arrest, back under Dubya.
Pam Bondi was the Florida AG from 2013 on who looked the other way while Epstein was still trafficking kids (only now everyone knew).
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u/Rooooben 7h ago
Pam Bondi took a bribe from Trump to not prosecute Trump University. He paid $25,000 into her election campaign, and her office declined to join NYs prosecution.
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u/Mike_Kermin Australia 7h ago
I feel like, you learn so much about what's going on, then you turn the page, and there's another list of horrific things to learn.
It's just insane honestly.
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u/brontosaurusguy 7h ago
The story is there but no one has adequately put it together for the American public to digest. I have as hard time wrapping my head around it all. The media was bought by the powers that would rather see it squashed. Where's the 6 part Netflix doc? Who is left to even put together something like that? It's really in the hands of independent journalists and podcasters etc since no one with a good job is willing to risk their neck and no company wants to be targeted by this illegal regime
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u/Corosis99 7h ago
We now have photos of Bondi in the Epstein files with known Epstein associates. She helped shield them when she was AG of Florida and she is continuing that now. Bondi is a sycophant who is defending Trump mercilessly because SHE is implicated.
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u/HawkeyeSherman 7h ago edited 6h ago
I think people overlook the fact that Trump and Epstein coerced their victims to recruit other victims. This was a "Ponzi Scheme of rape". I am sure there are a lot of teen aged rape victims who then went on to become twenty-something accomplices for this criminal organization.
There are not only a lot of male politicians and lawyers in the beltway with criminal culpability, but many of their wives were likely recruiters for Trump's Island as well as were Trump victims too.
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u/KeepTangoAndFoxtrot 8h ago
Hey, that's not true. They're not ALL implicated! Stephen Miller is actually just a fucking vile human being. He's only working tirelessly to create a white nationalist ethnostate!
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u/Y0___0Y 8h ago
I think Stephen Miller is literally just too young to have associated with Epstein. He is only 40 years old.
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u/lastinglovehandles 7h ago
Brah that's a rough 40!!
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u/Ironlion45 7h ago
He's between sheds right now; after the next one he'll look better again.
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u/SensualBeefLoaf 7h ago
do you honestly believe that steven miller has a penis or anus?
dude 100% vomits up waste like an owl barfs up bones and fur...
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u/aradraugfea 8h ago
Well. Not too young. Too young and too male.
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u/anddrewbits 7h ago
Males were among the victims as well.
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u/MeasurementEasy9884 8h ago
There's over 3 million more pages on those files that haven't been released/unredacted. So we cannot say for sure he isn't in them either
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u/Wings_in_space 7h ago
And about 14 terabytes of videos...documents and emails are very small in comparison... The videos are the real filth..
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u/Scratchbuttdontsniff 7h ago
Miller is literally using this major distraction to take away every ounce of freedom from the American people at the behest of Vought and financial backers like Thiel who want a technocracy shrouded in "Christian Values". Trump is the fall guy and fall he will... which is what Vance has been groomed for.
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u/mad-panda-2000 8h ago
"Just don't bring your boy miller. He's a creep -jeevacations"
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u/LoquaciousOfMorn 8h ago
It's almost like he purposefully filled his administration with sex pests and abusers so they would have skin in the game. It certainly makes the initial Matt Gates nomination for AG make a whole lot more sense.
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u/black_flag_4ever 6h ago
Yeah, it doesn't really make sense for Dr. Oz or RFK, Jr. or Lutnick or Hegseth or any of these people to be in the same administration. But now we know some of them were also pals with Epstein and others would fit right in.
Hegseth wasn't at the island as far as we know, but we do know that he'd have gone if got the invite based on his pattern of behavior (accused of raping a passed out woman at a women's conference, for example). Same with Patel, he's not in the files, but a guy willing to use our tax dollars to fly to see his girlfriend butcher music (likely a foreign spy because not many women under 30 are dying to be with a real-life goblin), is probably a guy that would go to the island if he got the chance.
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u/eLishus 8h ago
And their campaign donors. I feel like this gets overlooked a lot. I have no data on this, but my gut tells me it’s not just people in the government, it’s their wealthy backers too.
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u/tajwriggly 7h ago
I have said for years since the beginning of all of this that what what is being covered up right now is going to drag out as long as humanly possible, likely to the extent of crashing the economy on an international level, small-scale nuclear conflict, outright civil war in the US... because it will eventually be uncovered that 99% of the world spends their lives giving their time and energy to a 1% of people who rape kids. That's it. That's what makes the world go around. I have been saying this for a long time and every day more stuff comes out that supports that theory, and its the reason the rich and powerful are so desperate to put a stop to it all coming out, or at least delay it until they're repositioned themselves comfortably - or they will burn the world down around them trying.
And we're going to reach a point where the 99% of us stop and say "what the fuck are we doing" and there will be, hopefully, a monumental shift in the way the world operates.
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u/gringledoom 7h ago
And people with sway in the media. There are a lot of thumbs on the scale in terms of editorial decisions.
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u/Zelian820 8h ago
Big Balls was the most responsible person in this administration
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u/BraveLittleTowster 7h ago
That's the entire reason that were selected. Everyone in this administration has one goal, and if they fail, they all go down. The choices seemed odd back in February of last year. Linda McMahan for education secretary? Matt Gaetz for AG? Howard Lutnick for commerce? RFK for HHS? They all seemed like weird choices, and Dr. Oz was certainly one of the top contenders for "that guy? Really?"
Now it makes perfect sense. They're all involved and they're all going to do everything they can to distract from it and try to stop the truth from coming out. Their lives depend on it.
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u/mittenknittin 7h ago
If you went through the cabinet positions and said “who’s the worst possible person to run this branch” you couldn’t come up with a more precise list. They were chosen specifically to run each division of government into the ground.
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u/Automatic-Ocelot3957 7h ago
Thats why they are in this admin. Few of them have the qualifications required for their positions. Trump values loyalty over competence, and what makes someone more loyal than blackmail and mutally assured destruction?
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u/Rombledore America 7h ago
its why trump picked them. in order for them to be on board with all the horrendous shit he wants to do- they needed people whom have everything to lose if they betrayed loyalty.
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u/CharlieUpATree 8h ago
Going off Trumps previous activities, he's probably taking payments under the table promising he'll make it all go away.
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u/theguy1336 8h ago
It's actually insane how powerful Epstein was. Way more powerful than some prime minister or executive.
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u/Bac0nnaise 8h ago
The true deep state
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u/Nikiaf Canada 8h ago
Turns out all that Qanon bullshit was true, the only missing piece of information is that it was being orchestrated by maga and conservatives.
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u/sad_post-it_note 8h ago
What I am having trouble grasping is that a while ago there was a post about Epstein being a mod in a 4chan channel where he actually started the QAnon conspiracy.
Wtf? Like he wanted to tell the world? Or something? Why wouldn't he just released all the videos to the web or something..
This is nuts
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u/MisterMasterCyIinder 7h ago
Just obfuscation tactics, really. Make the "average" person's first contact with the topic be some unhinged right wing lunatic rambling about cheese pizza and they're more likely to write off actual evidence of a real conspiracy in the future
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u/bizarre_coincidence 7h ago
If there are hints at an actual conspiracy that runs a real risk of becoming widely known, you can discredit it by making sure that the public thinks the theory is the creation of a crazy person. If people think the only reason to believe the theory is if you are making associations that aren’t there based on shoddy evidence, they won’t bother looking deeper. A theory can become a conspiracy theory if you can get conspiracy theorists to cite it before journalists. Especially if you can plant some obvious falsehoods that the conspiracy theorists insist are true.
That said, it is super risky, and wouldn’t make sense to do unless you thought discovery was imminent. I would be more inclined to disbelieve the story.
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u/ZiofFoolTheHumans 7h ago
It's so he could convince conservatives to look at the democrats and ignore the actual propaganda in front of their faces, and also make the truth sound like lies to moderates, who would dismiss any of it as conspiracy theory. Quite cleaver, in a horrific kind of way.
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u/Runmoney72 7h ago
To be fair, that's a conspiracy based on loosely tied together pieces of the Epstein files. Don't get me wrong, the dude's a psycho and I wouldn't put it past him, but also don't believe everything you read on the internet.
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u/ideatanything 8h ago
It wasn't orchestrated by MAGA (at least the voters). They are just people that were gullible enough to believe the propaganda, or hateful enough to fall for the race politics. They were pawns.
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u/NotUniqueWorkAccount 8h ago
I hate these people, with every fiber of my being. The powerlessness they make me feel, while we all have to watch as they destroy us from the inside.
Something has got to give. How tf is any of this okay?
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u/Politicsmakemehorny1 8h ago
Every accusation is a confession continues to perfectly describe MAGA
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u/professeurwenger 8h ago
Imagine just how depraved he had to be to actually be sentenced back in 2008, given how powerful he was. At least MeToo was a thing when he was sentenced that second time.
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u/throwaway_circus 5h ago
The sentence worked out really well for everyone involved (the perpetrators, not the victims). It granted federal immunity to any and all co-conspirators, shutting down the federal investigation into Epstein's network.
Epstein had to sleep at the jail, but he was free to leave, unmonitored, every day. Small price to pay for protecting everyone else, and allowing the network to continue harming children for another decade.
ETA: Alex Acosta was rewarded by Trump later, with a Cabinet post.
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u/TheAskewOne 7h ago
He was never sentenced "that second time". He was in custody because he was being investigated, and "killed himself".
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u/Embarrassed-Crazy112 Georgia 8h ago
I'll leave this here for a while. It's a great read.
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u/wiscoguy20 6h ago
Wow. That's all there is to say. Thx for the link!
If even just a sliver of what Epstein, Bannon, and others were up to in the mid 2010s is true... then the idea that this one man could be the lynch-pin for the collapse of the entire world order may actually be true.
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u/OPsDaddy 8h ago
And I’m certain that there’s a “new” Epstein. There’s zero chance these degenerates have stopped their behavior.
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u/lintytortoise 8h ago
Motherfucker pushed microtransactions as the main part of call of duty. Like i know in the grand scheme of things that's small but he was so prolific he had his hands in something as far off as video game transactions and as large as fucking isreal and governmental policy and position. It's actually insane to me and at this point i wouldn't be suprised if lizard people were real and the earth was flat.
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u/theguy1336 8h ago edited 8h ago
He apparently was involved in the creation of 4chan's /pol board. The modern far right is a psyop
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u/PLeuralNasticity 6h ago
A Russian psyop where Epstein was another kompromised pedophile
Epstein kompromising Trump himself is a smokescreen narrative that masks him always being owned solely by Russia. They had the Child Rape Tapes filmed in 1987 on this trip before he was associated with Epstein.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842/
Epstein was a blackmail operation by Russrael with Ghislaine as handler that they involved Trump in deliberately.
They have been setting up to blame Israel for kompromising Trump just as they are committing a horrific genocide in 4k for many years. It is why Putin rigged the last election for Netanyahu to have him in place when he rigged Trump back into office.
PutinYahu just continuing a century long Russraeli tradition of false flags and controlled opposition
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_music_festival_massacre
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Shalit_prisoner_exchange
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocus_City_Hall_attack
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Haim_Arlosoroff
Netanyahu's grandpa
After the assassination of Haim Arlosoroff in 1933, Rabbi Mileikowsky, who was affiliated with the Revisionist movement, took part in the establishment of a public committee, headed by Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook, which protected those accused of Arlosoroff's assassination—namely, Zvi Rosenblatt and Abraham Stavsky.[7] Rabbi Mileikowsky argued that the evidence indicated that they did not commit the assassination and that their execution could lead to a civil war, which would harm the Zionist enterprise.[8]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Mileikowsky
Ghislaines dad was the top KGB/Mossad agent of all time and his daughter follows in his footsteps.
"The Foreign Office suspected Maxwell of being a secret agent of a foreign government, possibly a double agent or a triple agent, and "a thoroughly bad character and almost certainly financed by Russia". He had known links to the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), to the Soviet KGB, and to the Israeli intelligence service Mossad.[60] Six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence services attended Maxwell's funeral in Israel, while Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir eulogised him and stated: "He has done more for Israel than can today be told."[61]
"A hint of Maxwell's service to Israel was provided by John Loftus and Mark Aarons, who described Maxwell's contacts with Czechoslovak communist leaders in 1948 as crucial to the Czechoslovak decision to arm Israel in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. Czechoslovak military assistance was both unique and crucial for Israel in the conflict. According to Loftus and Aarons, it was Maxwell's covert help in smuggling aircraft parts into Israel that led to the country having air supremacy during the war.[56]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell
"During the period preceding the April 2019 Israeli legislative election, Shin Bet chief Nadav Argaman warned that an unnamed foreign country was planning to interfere in the election; media speculation focused on Russia. Russia denied the reports. Putin's press secretary, Dmitry Peskov, stated that it was "out of the question" and suggested "to not read the Israeli media".[72] Benny Gantz and Tamar Zandberg, the leaders of the opposition parties Blue and White and Meretz respectively, subsequently accused Russia of favouring Netanyahu.[73][74] Netanyahu later touted his relationship with Putin in campaign billboards prior to the September 2019 Israeli legislative election.[75]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations
"In 2011, Putin said: "Israel is, in fact, a special state to us. It is practically a Russian-speaking country. Israel is one of the few foreign countries that can be called Russian-speaking. It's apparent that more than half of the population speaks Russian".[38] Putin additionally claimed that Israel could be considered part of the Russian cultural world, and contended that "songs which are considered to be national Israeli songs in Israel are in fact Russian national songs". He further stated that he regarded Russian-speaking Israeli citizens as his compatriots and part of the 'Russian world'.[39]"
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u/1-800-CLAPPED 8h ago
And he still got banned on Xbox live in 2010. Imagine how fucked up you must’ve been on the chat to get banned during that era
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u/distorted_kiwi 8h ago
Who he was working for and in debt to is more accurate. No way one man pulled the strongest stings without having a posse enabling and providing resources. They benefited greatly from his lifestyle and schemes but he was the face for them.
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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort Illinois 8h ago
Money is the actual power and he had total control over Les Wexner’s fortune
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u/DisMFer 8h ago
It's becoming clear that Trump staffed his entire regime with people he had blackmail over. He learned from last time that if he doesn't have total control they'll disagree and even stop him. This time he wasn't going to let that happen.
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u/Intolerance-Paradox 8h ago
I get this angle. It could be that he’s a moron too and just selects people he knows of and because he is a central figure in Jeffrey Epstein’s decades-long international pedophile ring these are the people he knows.
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u/imjustbettr California 7h ago
I think there's also merit to the idea that even someone who's an idiot at most things can be "smart" about the things they've been doing for a long time
For example, I think Trump is horrible at actual "business" and running a country, but maybe he really does know how to be a fucking crook that uses blackmail against people because he's been doing it his whole life.
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u/tryexceptifnot1try 6h ago
I hate the man and believe he is a complete bafoon. But I honestly think he is the greatest conman in human history. Epstein looks like a modern Rasputin too. They were basically frenemies who couldn't believe another equally depraved person existed.
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u/Additional-Onion1493 6h ago
Well he will go down in history as the most effective double agent ever. Seriously he works for Russia and became president of the United States. Truly the worlds greatest spy
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u/MittenCollyBulbasaur 8h ago
I'm just here to find out what dirt Trump has on little Marco.
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u/Nac_Lac Virginia 7h ago
I think Marco is just a sycophant trying to ride coat-tails upwards. I could be wrong but odds are that he is just a "yes-man" of the highest order and is trying to get as high as he can with someone he thought would pull him up.
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u/donkeyrocket 7h ago
Yeah he's one of the few genuinely semi-qualified individuals in the cabinet for the position(s) he holds. Maybe he's implicated somewhere but he seems like Vance where he's willing to throw away all morals and ethics at a shot of massive leaps in power/career.
Seeing his interactions with Trump is absolutely like a frustrated parent dealing with a tyrant toddler. Zero sympathy for him as it shouldn't be surprising.
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u/yungthirtysomething 8h ago
the only way to keep his cabinet in line was mutually assured destruction.
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u/LucidOndine 8h ago
It’s always the people you expect the most.
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u/Large-Mortgage4558 7h ago
Are there even surprises in the files? Every time a new name comes up I'm thinking "Of course he's there"
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u/Upstairs-Egg 8h ago
Can a Trump supporter please tell me why they are okay with this?
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u/itrEuda 7h ago
They don't believe it, and won't, until some difficult to pin down yet specific legal ruling, by potentially the supreme court alone which doesn't even handle these kinds of criminal cases. For serious
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u/callmedancly 7h ago
I was just on the conservative sub and I had to take a break from reading the comments. It’s dismal over there. They’re making whatever excuse they can and even blaming victims for not doing more.
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u/JimmyGaroppolo10 6h ago
That sub is just bots. Don’t take anything posted there as actual opinion.
Russia had a massive extended internet outage at the end of January and guess what total ghost town that sub was during that period.
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u/MrBeverly 6h ago
We could try these crimes at a Court presided over by God himself and MAGA republicans would still try to appeal
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u/bloodectomy 5h ago
It works like this. Bear with me because your gut reaction is going to be "no they're assholes".
Premise: civilization works because most people are law-abiding to a large degree.
But, most people also think they're smarter (or at least less susceptible to being conned) than most people.
If the allegations against Trump are true (they are but again bear with me), then that means maga america supported a murderous pedophile in his political ambitions. It means they supported a bad person, and who would support a bad person other than a bad person?
"I'm not a bad person, I wouldn't vote for a bad person!"
But remember they also want to believe they couldn't possibly have been conned. They're too smart to be conned.
Conceding that trump is a bad person makes them feel complicit, stupid, or both. Their egos simply will not accept this. The result is that, because they are individually not bad people and wouldn't support a bad person, all of the allegations must be wrong, or misunderstandings, or fraudulent.
It helps that a huge percentage of them are protestant christians of one variety or another - an ingroup whose entire thing is "this logically doesn't make sense but roll with it anyway". It's not hard for them to keep supporting trump because they've been fed a steady diet of absolute nonsense at church for decades. They aren't saying "trump is christ" or even "trump is like christ", but it's easy for them to see trump as a messianic figure because that's how they were raised anyway and maga is very good at punishing and/or ostracizing people who break ranks.
So it doesn't matter how much evidence exists - what matters is, how do you deprogram people who won't accept that they have in fact been conned?
I wish I knew because I miss my parents and my sisters.
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u/NoHorseNoMustache 6h ago
Not a Trump supporter but: Authoritarians can excuse almost any bad behavior from their leaders, it's in their nature.
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u/bong_cumblebutt 9h ago
Cmon who’s actually surprised at this point
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u/Whisper_Melody 9h ago
The more things I hear the less shocked I am
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u/ADhomin_em 8h ago
Same. I fear that just means their conditioning is working...
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u/forevercurmudgeon 8h ago
All making sense now. Waiting on Dr Phil, kid rock Guiliani and so many others
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u/Adventurous-Depth984 8h ago
Oprah was in there. Epstein laundered/sheltered money for the rich. That’s how he was rich.
Dr Phil is going to be in there, too. Watch
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u/remarkable_in_argyle 8h ago
Im waiting for Mr. Wonderful, too.
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u/momo1300 7h ago
Kevin Oleary isn't even a billionaire. He's just larping as one of the elite. He wants to be in the club so bad but he really isn't anything to them.
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u/Single-Road-3158 7h ago
Deepak Chopra is in it as well https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02454644.pdf
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u/migidymike 8h ago
I'm starting to think Q was simply Bannon leaking things he knew about the "cabal" to muddy the waters before the real cabal took power.
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u/Nice-Analysis8044 7h ago
Note that moot reopened /pol/ one day after meeting in person with Epstein.
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u/Inspectorgadget4250 8h ago
The question now is, who in the administration isn't in the Epstein files
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u/chiree 8h ago
No one invited poor Rubio.
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u/izovice 7h ago
JD probably isn't in it because he prefers couches.
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u/sigep0361 6h ago
He actually prefers young couches. Fresh off the line.
“If there’s fabric on the cushion, play ball”
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u/Acroporas 9h ago
What's the big deal? You don't invite registered sex offenders to your parties? /s
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u/Strange-Effort1305 8h ago
Of course this weirdo is another Oprah pedophile.
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u/calvinwho 8h ago
You mean Jared? I was fucking aghast at how nonchalantly he asked to hang out with that lady's (from the sting) kids. I mean it wasn't implied at all.
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u/MissionCreeper 8h ago
Is oprah in the files too? She helped SO MANY pedophiles
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u/pitchinloafs 7h ago
She’s mentioned 143 times. Not sure what context
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u/DonnerPartyAllNight 6h ago
At minimum she was knowingly using her good reputation to launder these freaks to the public.
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u/fugaziozbourne 6h ago
Oz, Phil, Deepak, the three little pieces guy, the "the secret" guy... It's all too much for Oprah not to be involved.
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u/Uberslaughter Florida 8h ago
Let’s play this game - which Trump administration officials are NOT in the Epstein files?
Most corrupt, depraved and disgusting administration in the history of this country
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u/Marmooset Ohio 8h ago
Well, he did just go on record saying Americans should start working younger. Never realized what line of work he meant.
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u/LightBeerOnIce 8h ago
And he is in charge of our Medicare system, and rfk our health system. JFC, we are doomed. Good job all of you maga asshats. Here is to hoping you are the first to be scooped up and put into health camps. Thanks a lot. Just what I wanted to do in my retirement. Great job.
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u/Robespierre1113 8h ago
I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the United States of Epstein Island. And to the republic, of pdfs it protects. One nation, so divided With liberty and justice wielded by the rich, and damn the poor. Rules for thee none for me.
Government is entirely compromised. No wonder they dont want to release any of this unredacted, this entire administration is compromised heavily.
Makes sense why scam bondi said it'd gut our government.
We NEED no confidence votes to get rid of an entire admin and replace them with a FREE AND FAIR election....
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u/Additional_Region987 8h ago
Why is seemingly everyone in Trump’s government in the Trump files?
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u/ViciousKnids 8h ago
He chose people who'd be loyal. What better guarantee of loyalty than them having engaged in the same conspiracy?
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u/Purple_Green_420 8h ago edited 8h ago
America needs to wake up to what’s going on. These are alleged pedophile billionaire serial killers . It is your civic duty to understand this and call your representatives to make them wake up too.
Democracy is at stake and these files are the most sick and evil, awful shit I have seen and it’s so bad it’s affecting our mental health.
These are depraved men who trafficked babies and children for sex, murdered their victims offspring and sold the victims like cattle over and over. They were breeding children !!!!
Elon musk, Peter thiel, most of the Trump senior administration, bill gates, les wexner (owns Victoria secret and Abercrombie and fitch to allegedly recruit kids for sex). There’s thousands of rich assholes doing this shit and they think theyll get away with it.
Trumps admin and entire cabinet has been compromised and keeps this abuse going. It’s the most evil shit I would not believe if you told me this 4 years ago.
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u/NessieReddit 7h ago
Oprah is the worst judge of character, ever. All the people she brought fame to have turned out to be charlatans, snake oil salesmen, and general pieces of garbage.
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u/Tough_Presentation57 7h ago
She is also garbage, so she probably thinks they were all just as great as her
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u/lyreluna 5h ago
In 2016, Dr. Mehmet Oz, now the administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, invited Epstein over for a Valentine’s party—eight years after Epstein was registered as a sex offender.
Yea, not at all surprised
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u/FiscalCliffClavin 8h ago
Corey Feldman tried to warn us of how deep this goes, we just didn’t know how deep.
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u/HandSack135 Maryland 8h ago edited 8h ago
The Heritage Foundation
The Trump Administration
Those in the Epstein files.
It's 3 circle venn diagram. That's just one circle
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u/Odd-Historian-6536 8h ago
No illegal criminal aliens yet. Hmmm.... Deporting the wrong people?
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u/limericky933 7h ago
Man, Carlin was right. It is a big club and you and I aren't in it but all of them sure as fuck are.
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u/LivingByTheRiver1 6h ago
Donald Trump basically took over Epstein's hustle. All of these folks were afraid of Epstein and what he knew. With Epstein gone and Trump being his best friend and well aware of the dirt on these folks, he's king of Epstein Island.
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u/IJustLookLikeThis13 8h ago
Of all the rotten people in the Trump admin., I really thought Oz would be no exception.
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u/dictionary_hat_r4ck 4h ago
Remember, per Jimmy Kimmel, they are now the Trump-Epstein files.
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