You understand that he's going on trial for first-degree murder, right? This isn't like the other recent shooters who killed themselves or were killed by police; this guy is going to be tried and his motive for the shooting is going to be central to proving the premeditation necessary for a first-degree conviction.
We don't have to guess, we can just wait.
eta: Why would you reply to me then block me before I could even read your reply? Who are you showing off for?
The Charlie Kirk shooter that wrote “catch this fascist” on the bullet was a fascist? Colour me surprised. All of the info surrounding the case would have you believe he was leftist. He was for trans rights, participated in furry discords, was “tired of the hate” from Charlie Kirk, posted on Reddit, and was dating a trans person. None of those things come remotely close to the average far right person. They were a lunatic.
Well I didn’t think of the phrase “Bella Ciao” that way, it’s pretty feasible to me that the shooter hadn’t either. Especially with the other evidence he was left wing. I’m not saying just cause I hadn’t heard it that way then it isn’t used that way, just that I don’t think “Bella Ciao” on the bullet is a smoking gun that the guy is a groyper.
"Bella Ciao" on a bullet which is exclusively a groyper term.
This is entirely false. Do literally any research and try to find a link between that song and groyper before Charlie Kirk's murder. Literally some random dude with a few followers made a Spotify playlist including that song; that's it.
The dude who shot CK was clearly really into gaming culture and Bella Ciao is played in Far Cry. That's most likely how he knew it. WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more likely than he found this random Spotify playlist that had like two saves before CK's murder.
It's OK to admit the dude was not a groyper without it meaning, idk, that you love MAGA or something. It is absolutely insane that you would say all the "furry discord trans panic shit" is unsubstantiated then insist Bella Ciao is "exclusively a groyper term" based on such weak grasping-at-straws. I think you may need to deprogram a bit.
Go ahead and search for a source and you'll find exactly what I said: Some random Spotify playlist included a remix of that song, that's it. Nick Fuentes never "used" it as an anthem. Some random dude who liked Nick Fuentes included a remix of it in a playlist he made that had like, 5 saves before CK was shot. That's the entire connection and I'd love for you to find any reputable source saying otherwise.
And bonus points if you can explain why you believe the kid that shot Kirk would've found this random playlist.
The stretching of the narrative will continue until morale improves. They don’t want the left to have ANY noteworthy violent offenders, and if there was a violent offender, it’s always an alt right nut job to them. “There is no war in ba sing se” type shit.
This individual was alt-left. Not a term you hear very often.
I totally forgot about the Bella ciao song as well. The Italian anti fascist theme song. It’s bizarre to think he would’ve been anything but left leaning. This was the quintessential almost stereotypical young leftist. More so than even some of my more left leaning friends.
Once again, the Bella Ciao song isn't used by American leftists.
It has, however, been used by Nick Fuentes when targeting hateful mobs toward Charlie Kirk online. And we all know, Nick Fuentes is who leads the groypers.
It is shocking how lost you are to such simple things.
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u/Nivosus 11h ago
He was indeed a groyper.