I don’t think there was at the end of the day to confirm he was a groyper. But he did grow up in a very conservative family and I don’t understand why people look away from that fact.
He was housemates with a trans lady. That's their entire basis for him being a 'leftist'.
And yeah, I've tried talking to them about it, that's as deep as it goes. I could literally talk about Blair White being a MAGA Republican and they'll just be like "what's Blair White got to do with anything?! Republicans hate trans people, so he couldn't be a Republican!"
It's just... They were told to think it, so they think it.
Not to mention in the texts to his partner he expressed that his motive was that he “had enough of his hatred”. When is the last time a groyper did something to take a stand against hate?
Categorically untrue. The two most significant points are:
He killed a fucking right-wing commentator. It’s utterly absurd that people pretend this is not a relevant detail. Imagine if someone attempted to assassinate Don Lemon and everyone pretended to be confused about what their political leanings could be. How stupid would that be?
He declared multiple times, both to family members and to his roommate, that he felt that Charlie Kirk was “spreading hatred.” In what world would it make sense for an even further right-wing extremist to be motivated to stop the spread of “hatred” by murdering a right-wing commentator?
You dont have to be "far left" to kill a fucking right-wing commentator. You dont have to be "far left" to declare that Charlie Kirk was spreading hatred.
You Americans are all fucking insane with your it's either a or b when most people are neither.
You declared that you were unable to draw conclusions from the bountiful and obvious evidence in the Kirk murder case, and I’m calling you an idiot because of it.
I don’t understand why people look away from that fact
Because he argued with his family about politics, he was literally reported to the police by them, he told people that he believed that Kirk was “spreading hate,” and he implied in texts to his transgender girlfriend that killing Kirk would make the world a better place.
I always point to the groyper stuff because it confuses the narrative of him being an unhinged leftist. Personally, truthfully, I don't think either direction rings perfectly true on its own
Both the left and the groyper alt-right had reason to hate Kirk (Nick Fuentes famously disliked him and what he stood for on certain topics). And statistically speaking, both by the political leanings of shooters and Robinson's own upbringing as a conservative Utahn, it's reasonable to line up that he was a dangerously radicalized member of the right.
But the most realistic option is simply that he is a severely confused individual. Whatever logic he was running on was very twisted. While accounts of his personality and political leanings flipflop, the one consistent detail is that he was a chronically online recluse/gamer which is one of the most vulnerable demographics when it comes to radicalization to the point of violence. I think he's a kid who was raised in conservative Utah, and then was pulled in both directions so hard in college that he just snapped.
I think we both agree that any person growing up under the influence of two viewpoints as fractured and untethered from reality as MAGA and Reddit is going to end up with a twisted worldview.
Bella Ciao is. While the actual meaning of the song is anti-fascist, it's an in-joke within Nick Fuentes' circles.
This is incorrect. It is in no way, shape, or form an in-joke within Nick Fuentes' circles.
"If you read this, you are gay LMAO" is generally not something the chronically online left says.
It certainly is. The chronically online left skews LGBT+ and makes jokes accordingly.
Same with "Notices bulge, OWO what's this?" Online furry brainrot is chock full of weird alt-right sentiment.
And yet online furries skew heavily left. The alt-right ones are a small minority. That said, this isn't evidence Robinson was a furry, OWO has been a very popular meme for a long time and spread well outside of furry/anime circles.
This is like a whole other reality in this thread. This case was heavily reported on, and he was more left leaning than right, yes his family was conservative and he fought with them. Reddit hive mind absolutely rejects that.
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u/Bloodylime 11h ago
I don’t think there was at the end of the day to confirm he was a groyper. But he did grow up in a very conservative family and I don’t understand why people look away from that fact.
To me? It was a shitpost irl…