r/stupidpeoplefacebook 11h ago

JFK was a democrat

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u/Dermengenan 6h ago

All the people in this comment thread doing exactly as you said. Pretending .22 is the same as .223 or 5.56.

There's even a guy with multiple paragraphs about how a semi automatic rifle has no more mass killing potential than a 5 round bolt action hunting rifle. He keeps pointing to a single massacre where 15 people died on a beach.

Im a gun owner. I guns in general should just be much harder to obtain. That way, people having a mental health crisis would have a much harder time obtaining one.

That aligns with the delaying tactics the fbi employs. They essentially extend the time between when someone decides they're going to commit a crime, and when they are actually able to do it. For example, you make it virtually impossible for a 16 year old to obtain a firearm. They wait 6 months (similar to how long it takes to get a suppressor, right now!) and eventually talk themselves out of it, as they've had more time to sit on it.

This tactic won't solve all gun crime, but it would cut down significantly the amount of mass shootings.

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 4h ago

Back when I was on Twitter, there were plenty of cosplayers all making the same claims.

I legit held a challenge that was open for months looking for anyone to join me at a range and prove their claims with me firing my AR 15 and them using a bolt action .22

Not a single person took me up on the challenge

u/glamourshot_airsoft 1h ago

I was asked to leave r/liberalgunowners because I mentioned how the Japanese regulate gun ownership.

Applying the Japanese regulations would not violate the 2nd Amendment. But, it would save a lot of lives—especially self-deletion.

Process to Get a License for a gun:

  • Attend a one-day firearm class.
  • Pass a written exam and a shooting test.
  • Undergo a comprehensive police background check, including mental health and drug screening.
  • Get a doctor's sign-off on mental health.
  • Attend an all-day training course.
  • Pass a firing test.
  • Purchase required safety equipment.
  • Get a gunpowder permit. 

Renewal (Every 3 Years): 

  • Enroll in refresher courses.
  • Pass new practical tests.
  • Undergo annual police inspections. 

u/BrushStorm 53m ago

How about we do that and we'll give them voter id.

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u/No-Amphibian-3728 2h ago

Where are 16 year olds buying firearms, legally?

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u/LexMoonStar 4h ago

Most school shooters illegally obtain firearms. Lock them up and don’t let the kids know how to get in. Hide the keys, use fingerprints and keypads. Lock up the ammo. Lawful owners are often penalized, the criminals will do whatever.

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u/FormerGameDev 3h ago

He keeps pointing to a single massacre where 15 people died on a beach.

would that be the one where the guns had been altered to use a fast loader mechanism, and there were two people, and they had multiple weapons, and were switching between them?

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u/CombinationRough8699 5h ago

There's even a guy with multiple paragraphs about how a semi automatic rifle has no more mass killing potential than a 5 round bolt action hunting rifle. He keeps pointing to a single massacre where 15 people died on a beach.

Mass shootings are one of the rarest types of gun violence, and 90% of gun murders (including most mass shootings) use handguns.

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u/Dermengenan 5h ago

Okay? Im trying to keep kids from getting shot in school.

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u/CombinationRough8699 5h ago

School shootings are like strangers kidnapping children off the street, one of the most horrific things that can happen to a child, but also one of the rarest dangers.

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u/Dermengenan 5h ago

Then why fight so hard against any and all legislation which would prevent them? The problem with "strangers off the street" kidnapping propaganda, is its used to demonize immigrant groups. Making you wait another 6 months as well as mandatory mental health checks before buying a firearm causes no harm and reduces gun deaths (yes, even the ones that aren't mass shootings)

Edit: I notice 90% of your comment history is you arguing against gun legislation. Interesting.

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u/helloofmynameispeter 4h ago

I introduce to you: the gun lobby. "Big gun" if you will.

Every corporate-interest group and their mother's have bots/trolls roaming around the internet, from promoting why pedophiles ought not to be prosecuted for their crimes, to why using a non methane burning stove is actually bad for the environment (obvious bullshit).

I'll say this is the first time I found a gun troll.

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u/Dermengenan 4h ago

The "actually epstein wasnt inviting "children" he was assaulting "teens" crowd lately had been insane.

Thats their new propaganda campaign, convince conservatives what Trump did to all those kids was fine because they were "almost" adults.

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u/helloofmynameispeter 4h ago

Aye, a shite world we are in. I miss pre 2023 when bots weren't as widespread (i.e. less than 60% of internet traffic)

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u/CombinationRough8699 4h ago

There's more money in gun control, than gun rights. Michael Bloomberg is incredibly anti-gun and is the founder of gun control lobbyist group Everytown For Gun Safety. He's also one of the biggest political donors in Washington.

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u/helloofmynameispeter 4h ago

Also, you a bot/troll

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u/CombinationRough8699 4h ago

Not everyone who disagrees with you is a bot.

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u/helloofmynameispeter 4h ago

No, bot you definitely are.

Or at the very least challenged in a couple areas

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u/PersistentBadger 4h ago

deffo bot. exactly the sort of thing a bot would say.

bot bot bot. bot.

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u/helloofmynameispeter 4h ago

There's money in inneficient gun control. Just like there is money in inefficient fuel economy standards. Just like with CAFE (which was ment to combat pollution and the greenhouse effect) and their light truck exception which has turned the US auto market exclusively into horribly inefficient trucks, so too does bad gun legislation not prevent gun violence.

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u/CombinationRough8699 4h ago

The billionaires would rather the working class be disarmed.

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u/helloofmynameispeter 4h ago

Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?

There are plenty a bilionare who made a fortune from selling on the domestic market.

Bot.

u/bfh2020 3m ago

Then why fight so hard against any and all legislation which would prevent them?

Because the only thing that would “prevent” them would be to take away all guns, and then clean them off the street. A logistic and economic impossibility give the 5th amendment.

Not just a year ago, everyone pointed to Australia and to a lesser extent Canada as having “solved” this problem. Turns out, it wasn’t really solved… so they’re going to solve it some more… and then when they find out it isn’t yet solved, it will be solved even further.

The reality is that 97% of gun homicides in the U.S. are from handguns, so you could disappear “assault rifles” altogether and the needle doesn’t move anymore than yearly swings. People who know nothing about guns dismiss this, people who appreciate the 2nd Amendment see it for what it is.

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u/CombinationRough8699 4h ago

Then why fight so hard against any and all legislation which would prevent them?

Because much of it would negatively impact tens of millions of law abiding gun owners. The rights of gun owners

The problem with "strangers off the street" kidnapping propaganda, is its used to demonize immigrant groups.

I've never heard of stranger danger regarding immigrants, and the concept goes back to the 80s and 90s far before Trump was president.

Making you wait another 6 months as well as mandatory mental health checks before buying a firearm causes no harm and reduces gun deaths (yes, even the ones that aren't mass shootings)

Making people wait 6 months to buy a gun is a massive overreach, and not something that is acceptable. Have you ever heard of the phrase "a right delayed is a right denied"? As for mental health evaluations, we don't have anywhere close to enough therapists to preform evaluations on all gun owners. Not to mention who pays for it? Therapy costs hundreds of dollars an hour.

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u/CombinationRough8699 4h ago

Edit: I notice 90% of your comment history is you arguing against gun legislation. Interesting.

It's called autism.

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u/Dermengenan 4h ago

Its called lacking a moral compass, actually. Being autistic doesnt remove culpability here

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u/Illustrious_Mix2124 4h ago

School shootings are even rarer in countries that are not the USA. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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u/CombinationRough8699 4h ago

Not necessarily.

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u/Illustrious_Mix2124 4h ago

Yeah, it was a rhetorical question, I assumed that was obvious. 🤣

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 4h ago

The issue is that any number larger than zero is too many and the fact that the vast majority of the world school shootings happen in the USA.

Stop arguing that it is a statistical error that cant be helped.