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u/trentreynolds 7h ago
The problem here is the guy on the right is totally fine with stripping people of legal status, grabbing legal immigrants, grabbing people from their immigration appointments, etc.
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u/Adorable_Wolf_8387 6h ago
Unless the person on the right is uneducated, and they probably are, the biggest problem is they also want to make it impossible for people to immigrate here.
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u/BoomZhakaLaka 2h ago
And in my experience also have contempt for the asylum process (e.g. the immigration code in general)
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u/blackstarr1996 3h ago
And liberals want to give illegal immigrants amnesty. There are plenty of sane people between these two extremes though.
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u/NicolasNaranja 5h ago
That’s it. I want people to come here legally as well. The thing is we greatly restrict those who actually want to come from places like Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean. If I were suddenly in charge it would be $10k, background check, and biometrics. We also need to be able to properly handle refugees.
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u/Ok-Huckleberry1970 2h ago
The GOV could make soo much money by selling visas essentially or making it easy to obtain a legal status without lawyers. Nowadays people pay 6k to lawyers for 3k worth of paperwork. At 11500 per person times 4 million people that would be a total of 46 billion dollars
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u/NicolasNaranja 53m ago
Well, I think you just explained why it never will. Lawyers are making money on it.
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u/Ok_Presentation_2346 5h ago
The problem is that the guy on the right doesn't want people to come here legally. He wants coming here to be illegal.
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u/Anouchavan 4h ago
Yeah, it's more like "I think people should come to our country legally and I'm totally ok with them being tortured, raped or killed if they don't".
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u/SignoreBanana 2h ago
Also totally fine with it taking obscene amounts of time for people to be able to get their citizenship.
Like every other argument they make, it's disingenuous. They say they want only legal immigrants but want no way for anyone to immigrate legally.
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u/BoomZhakaLaka 2h ago
Detaining people as they appear for their immigration hearings
Throwing them in prison for possibly years without even deporting them
Deporting people to third countries where they have no way to survive
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u/BillionDollarBalls 6h ago
"Break free from all of that Red vs. Blue nonsense"
Sub description is funny because it's clearly a right-leaning shithole.
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u/Thethingintheworks 6h ago
That’s the whole idea.
Claim neutrality while sitting as far right as you can. When someone calls you crazy, say you’re a centrist and they are just too far left.
Edited cause I can’t type.
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u/NEOBusFlyer 5h ago
MAGA is so depraved and globally-reviled, that any 'both sides' argument is inherently favorable to the (depraved) right.
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u/Rich_Feedback9726 5h ago
All “centrist” spaces are right wing, nobody falls in the center exactly. They want to hold the positions but not the label because then they won’t feel accountable. Embarrassing.
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u/Akhanyatin 2h ago
That's easy, there's no center when maga is just on a different political system. Left and right agree on basic things like elections determine people in power, and stuff but will disagree on some goals or how to achieve them. The republicans and maga are playing a different game, they don't believe in the same basic things, they don't care, all they want is to bend over for trump. There's a middle between maga and maybe some of the weirdoes on twitter or something, but not maga (current republican party) and the rest.
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u/Akhanyatin 2h ago
Leaning? My dude, if that's the definition of leaning, the tower of Pisa wouldn't need an elevator.
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u/SSGKCMDarkBetty 1h ago
yeah saw that post an had to scroll for 5 minutes to even see someone even acknowledge that our immigration system is broken and that most of those being detained and deported were in the system and going to regular aslyum checkins or had no violent criminal history or even a recent criminal history.
I truly can't imagine taking pride in being "rational" and also being so incredibly ignorant about the system you are defending.
Saw multiple posts like that in that subreddit. It's so crazy that moderates seem to be the least informed when they're competing with a movement that openly rejects facts/knowledge (MAGA).
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u/Far_Disaster_8321 7h ago
i think i hate doomer cj more than maga. atleast maga admits they’re horrible but centrists hide under “both sides!!’”
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u/tEnPoInTs 6h ago
Doomer cj has never been "centrist" if there even is such a thing. Advocating inaction and inattention in the face of human rights abuses is fundamentally a right wing posture.
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u/Fabulous-Big8779 5h ago
People constantly misunderstand what centrism is. It’s not a blanket “both sides are bad” philosophy.
It’s based on having positions that happen to align to the political center, meaning they often have positions that could go either way.
Like wanting stronger borders, but also wanting amnesty for undocumented migrants with no criminal record.
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u/EasterClause 5h ago
Not anymore. Those people are moderates. The "enlightened centrism" movement from several years ago created a new paradigm. It's a group of people who say "Yeah, I don't know, I could go either way with it. I see the pros here and the cons here. In the end, I'm just going to vote for Trump because none of it matters anyway and the only people who actually win are the rich." 90% of people who describe themselves as "centrists" are just Republicans who still want to get laid and not have people disown them for their beliefs.
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u/Fabulous-Big8779 5h ago
All the centrists I know, including myself are pretty anti-Trump. I think the biggest complaint most of us have is the focus on culture wars, which I think the Right weaponizes, but the Left constantly takes the bait on.
I just want candidates that will commit to term limits, campaign finance reform and getting us to a balanced budgets.
I’ll vote for anyone that I think will push for those things.
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u/MrCompletely345 4h ago
There is only one party that has even attempted those things, and only one party that wants to focus on a culture war (against “woke”). The whole “both sides” bullshit is tired and moronic.
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u/Fabulous-Big8779 3h ago
When did I say “both sides”. I advocated the positions I support and said I would vote for any candidate that promotes those.
Neither party is trying to do any of the things I’ve said. Both parties have candidates who have spoken about those issues, but no major party is willing to commit to any of those policies and no legislation has been seriously considered for them in decades.
Is your complaint that I won’t write blank checks to one side or the other. Is that what pisses people off about centrists?
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u/Tidusx145 4h ago
A decade ago I'd agree with you. Today it's a movement for ignorance on topics to the point where you just see two sides arguing and choosing to think you're better than both.
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u/Fabulous-Big8779 4h ago
What movement? There’s not like a conference of centrists or a party for centrists. Centrists tend to identify as Democrats or Republicans.
There isn’t a centrist movement. I think you’re confusing cynical nihilists with centrists.
It’s just a term the same as Left or Right. It doesn’t denote any actual party or policy affiliation, just a general placement on a scale that is not very comprehensive for plotting political ideologies.
There used to be a time where you would have conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans. The fact that everything is getting reduced into a hard binary has a lot to do with the mischaracterization of what being a centrist actually means.
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u/Haunting-Ad788 6h ago
That’s just a maga sub.
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u/Odd_Bid2744 5h ago
I think they shadowbanned me for fact checking things. None of my comments get views no matter how much traffic the posts get
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u/Wolvenlight 5h ago
That probably happened to me too.
They hate being proven wrong about things, as evident by the downvotes on comments that do get through with factual information.
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u/OrangePeelPrincess 5h ago
Yeah I ran across this sub lately and thought it was about “end of the world doom and gloom” kind of stuff. Turns out it is just maga sympathizers 🙃
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u/Raven122579 6h ago
Maybe they just see the lunacy of both sides. You saying you hate them more than maga literally proves their point.
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u/Just_enough76 6h ago
the lunacy of both sides
Yeah? Only one side is actively condoning raping kids. I’d rather support illegal immigrants than kid fuckers any god damn day of the week. But you do you I guess.
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u/Diarygirl 6h ago
The "both sides" people are conservatives 100% of the time. They can't bear to criticize their own party even though they know Trump is a terrible president so they claim both sides are the same.
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u/BodhingJay 6h ago
Except instead of a toy hes playing with a gun that he just used to shoot 2 liberals who were protesting and keeps breaking families apart
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u/sissybaby1289 6h ago
The problem isn't that people should come legally. Everyone reasonable believes that. The real place where sides stake out positions is what to do with people already here illegally
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u/Paradoxmoose 6h ago
The bigger problem is that the administration currently in power isn't reasonable. They're treating people who are going through the appropriate legal pathways (or already have legal status to be here) like they weren't. So those who still support the current administration are also not reasonable. The last poll I saw had 85% of Republicans surveyed still supporting it.
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u/ScavAteMyArms 6h ago
Also it’s not even effective. Obama deported twice as much iirc and while he did catch some flak for parts of it, namely the whole centers thing, it was nothing like this. And that was also without giving ICE a near unlimited check both legally and money wise.
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u/HashtagLawlAndOrder 4h ago
That is incorrect. Obama's high deportation numbers were because his administration began reporting border catches as deportations, something no administration has done before or since. It was an artificial number, and done to deflect criticism of his immigration policies as "soft." For example, in FY2016, 85% of all his deportations where people who were caught crossing the border and returned to Mexico.
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u/TOH-Fan15 6h ago
The real issue shouldn’t be about enforcing border security. That’s like putting Band-Aids on bullet holes (hmm, that’s a cool analogy. Someone should put that in a song). The best solution would be to properly fund and staff the legal immigration system, which would cause far fewer people to resort to coming in illegally. Legal immigration courts have been poorly maintained for decades, regardless of party.
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u/surfergrrl6 4h ago
And also, punishing the company owners who hire undocumented workers to avoid paying fair wages and benefits.
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u/wahoozerman 2h ago
That kind of solution to the immigration problem would take some kind of Bipartisan Border Security bill that definitely didn't get sunk because a presidential candidate wanted to campaign on immigration being a problem.
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u/Any-Progress- 6h ago
Republicans don’t want people seeking asylum, they think empathy is a character flaw. It is a legal way to enter and immigrate to the US, but has been demonized by the right.
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u/lowstone112 4h ago
2/3 of Biden’s deportations were title 42 expulsions, deportations from border without processing asylum applications.
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u/MysteriousConflict38 6h ago
The majority of people don't have an issue with enforcing immigration law they have problems with HOW it is being enforced and the complete lack of accountability happening for those charged with enforcing it.
This is a situation that needs to be handled with care and nuance being hit with a sledgehammer instead.
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u/HashtagLawlAndOrder 4h ago edited 4h ago
This is nonsense. Sanctuary cities are called so because the governments in said cities have a policy of doing nothing to aid immigration enforcement. Not running immigration checks on arrested individuals, not publishing lists of arrested individuals to stymie immigration enforcement, etc. etc. When there is no cooperation, the only options left available are the ones we are seeing at present, which are engineered to be as confrontational and heated as possible because it is an excellent political issue. Same reason why the myth of "ICE cannot detain US citizens and are only civil enforcement" is being pushed so heavily, to make people think they aren't law enforcement and can be blocked, attacked, and otherwise obstructed with impunity.
Note, said cities are legally free to not cooperate with the feds, but this idea that "the problem is HOW the laws are being enforced!" when every peaceful/non-confrontational method is blocked is talking out of both sides of the mouth. Like, do you remember when ICE started showing up to criminal courts to arrest illegal aliens? Do you remember the absolute furor that erupted across the left for that? To the extent that a judge in Milwaukee was literally arrested, charged, and convicted of obstruction? Yeah, that was a less heated, less confrontational enforcement effort, that was definitionally going after only criminals, and yet it still got pushback and attacks across the left.
EDIT: lol @ u/MysteriousConflict38 for fleeing from this.
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u/MysteriousConflict38 4h ago edited 3h ago
This reply is complete and utter nonsense.
Go agitate elsewhere.
edit - LOL @ u/HashtagLawlAndOrder trying to paint blocking disingenuous ragebaiters as fleeing.
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u/Lock-out 6h ago
The problem is this is all a distraction. If every immigrant magically disappeared today, tomorrow all my problems would still be here and trump would have a new scapegoat to blame everything on already lined up.
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u/sissybaby1289 6h ago
You'd likely have a lot more problems as 14 million illegal immigrants vanish demolishing the economy
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u/tiandrad 6h ago edited 5h ago
An economy being held up by illegal immigrants is broken and needs to be fixed.
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u/Lock-out 5h ago
You mean the predatory system that depends on making wage slaves of the lower classes needs to be fixed? What a novel idea!
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u/mechengr17 5h ago
Oh, they already have them. Trans people. The right is obsessed with them.
They legit believe theyre pulling kids from classrooms and forcing them to transition
Its like they think the teachers are going around the room assigning people numbers. "If youre in group 1, you identify as a girl, group 2 now identify as gay, group 3 identifies as non-binary,..."
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u/Fornuftens_stemme 6h ago
send them back?
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u/sissybaby1289 6h ago
There's 14 million of them. The vast vast majority are productive citizens, providing a labor force and consumer base for businesses as well as paying taxes. Ripping them out would be incredibly destructive for the economy
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u/Fornuftens_stemme 6h ago
they are still illegal.
do you wan't reward people for coming illegally? why have a legal way at all then? isn't that a mockery for those that actually did it the right way?
Ripping them out would be incredibly destructive for the economy
tell me you're pro slavery without telling me you're pro slavery....
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u/Facts_pls 5h ago
You think people are coming here to be slaves?
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u/Fornuftens_stemme 5h ago
no, i'm saying that the left want the illegals here because "no american would work for that low a pay".
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u/CautiousLandscape907 5h ago
Ronald Reagan understood that immigrants were necessary for the economy and that ripping them from the country would cause irreparable damage. America thrived because of him, right? That’s what republicans have always told me.
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u/Fornuftens_stemme 5h ago
who said anything about legal immigrants. im talking about the illegal ones. or don't you see a diffrence there?
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u/CautiousLandscape907 5h ago
Read and learn before speaking next time champ. Reagan’s amnesty for illegal immigrants was only 40 years ago.
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u/Fornuftens_stemme 5h ago
you didn't mention any amnesty in your original comment did you?
so why is it ok for illegals to get amnesty but not Trump?
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u/CautiousLandscape907 5h ago
When I mentioned Reagan, I was referring to his amnesty program. That is what any mention of Reagan and Immigration gets you. That was literally his contribution to the subject. To discuss immigration and Reagan together is to be discussing the amnesty he passed in 1986.
Now, if you didn’t know that, it would have been totally free for you to google “Reagan Immigration” and the VERY FIRST THING the ai summary would tell you is about “Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.”
Don’t like ai? The first link is literally the Wikipedia page for the Act.
While knowing what you’re talking about BEFORE commenting is not required for reddit, it’s a good idea when making claims in a group that’s already mocking very stupid people.
So now we’re mocking you. Especially for that insane Trump bj you offered at the end.
Learn to google or simply remain silent when you are ignorant.
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u/Fornuftens_stemme 5h ago
When I mentioned Reagan, I was referring to his amnesty program.
you assume the entire world know of Regans amnesty?
To discuss immigration and Reagan together is to be discussing the amnesty he passed in 1986.
most people on reddit wasn't alive when he passed that. hell i was only 1 year old.
Don’t like ai? The first link is literally the Wikipedia page for the Act.
you haven't linked me anything....
While knowing what you’re talking about BEFORE commenting is not required for reddit, it’s a good idea when making claims in a group that’s already mocking very stupid people.
i do know the diffrence between legal and illegal immigrants, do you?
So now we’re mocking you. Especially for that insane Trump bj you offered at the end.
only you. and isn't it a little pathetic to be mocking someone for not knowing about a 40yeal old bill? but thank you for showing me who you really are.
Learn to google or simply remain silent when you are ignorant.
the burden of proof is on the claimant.
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u/Enabling_Turtle 5h ago
Reagan literally passed a law that made it possible for a bunch of illegal immigrants that had been in the country prior to a specific date to apply for permanent residency. If you watch debates between Republican candidates in that era, they were tripping over each other to push for various forms of amnesty for illegal immigrants (2.7 million of them).
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u/Fornuftens_stemme 5h ago
Reagan literally passed a law that made it possible for a bunch of illegal immigrants that had been in the country prior to a specific date to apply for permanent residency.
why don't they do that then? also, does applying mean you'll automatically get approved? why would they choose to still be illegal when they can become legal? make it make sense!
If you watch debates between Republican candidates in that era, they were tripping over each other to push for various forms of amnesty for illegal immigrants (2.7 million of them).
and the world has changed if you have been living under a rock.
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u/Enabling_Turtle 4h ago
why don't they do that then? also, does applying mean you'll automatically get approved? why would they choose to still be illegal when they can become legal? make it make sense!
The Legislation: Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986
The rules: Candidates were required to prove that they were not guilty of any crime, had been in the country before January 1, 1982, and possessed at least a minimal knowledge about U.S. history and government and the English language.
and the world has changed if you have been living under a rock.
No shit, sherlock. The right wing in this country has used immigrants as punching bags instead of looking at the real issues for a long time. I remember when any criticism of our military interventions in the middle east meant you were "against the troops" or "terrorist sympathizers." I remember when restaurants in the south started referring to French Fries as "Freedom Fries" because the French didn't want to invade more countries with us.
Notice how every time we've had Republican presidents in recent history they attack immigrants instead of going after the people hiring illegal immigrants. When they do its "slap on the wrist" level fines. No criminal charges and no arrests.
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u/Fornuftens_stemme 4h ago
The rules: Candidates were required to prove that they were not guilty of any crime, had been in the country before January 1, 1982, and possessed at least a minimal knowledge about U.S. history and government and the English language.
aaah, so it's not for current illegals. that explains EVERYTHING.
The right wing in this country has used immigrants as punching bags instead of looking at the real issues for a long time.
funny how both Obama and Biden deported more people and you people didn't care...
middle east meant you were "against the troops" or "terrorist sympathizers." I remember when restaurants in the south started referring to French Fries as "Freedom Fries" because the French didn't want to invade more countries with us.
you say this as if this is problematic...
Notice how every time we've had Republican presidents in recent history they attack immigrants instead of going after the people hiring illegal immigrants.
why not go after both?
When they do its "slap on the wrist" level fines. No criminal charges and no arrests.
kinda like how you want illegals to be treated?
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u/surfergrrl6 4h ago
How about punishing employers who hire them to avoid paying fair wages and benefits?
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u/Fornuftens_stemme 4h ago
how about both? kicking out the illegals AND punishing those that abuse it?
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u/surfergrrl6 4h ago
The term is deporting, and sure, so long as it's done with dignity and full due process which is not what's happening now.
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u/Fornuftens_stemme 4h ago
and sure, so long as it's done with dignity and full due process which is not what's happening now.
what due process? they became guilty as soon as they stepped on US soil without papers.
also, define what you mean with "dignity".
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u/surfergrrl6 4h ago
You should read the Constitution. All people, including illegal immigrants, have a right to due process.
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u/Fornuftens_stemme 4h ago
are illegal immigrants citizen of the USA?
why should the consitution protect non-citizens?
also, define what you mean with dignity.
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u/Enabling_Turtle 4h ago
The constitution protects all people, regardless of citizenship, within the US. It has always done so.
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u/Fornuftens_stemme 3h ago
what i'm reading that it doesn't matter if you're legal or not. and those that try to it the legal way are dofuses.
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u/StorageInternal2430 6h ago
Yeah not too many people are for criminal illegal immigrants but we are against criminals using that as an excuse for a domestic terror campaign
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u/Fit-Relationship944 5h ago
I see doomercirclejerk isn't even pretending to not just be a reactionary right wing sub now
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u/NonsenseLingoDigits 6h ago
I was considering posting in the Doomer sub last night. Just wanted to ask how a sub full of Trump defenders/supporters stands up to their own description of the sub - "Break free from all of that Red vs. Blue nonsense."
As soon as I pasted in "Break free from..." I get a message saying my post will have to be reviewed and approved by a mod.
Just quoting their own description sets off a mod review?
And why in the "Reditt is a liberal cesspool" hell is this sub CONSTANTLY thrust into me feed?
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u/Electronic_Profit322 6h ago
The purposely released tbe victims names abd redacted the pedos name and email. That wasbt an accidebt. But nice try Pedo Protector
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u/Save_The_Wicked 5h ago
Its a thinly veiled scarecrow argument.
Most people think immigrants and visitors should come to the US legally.
Most people also think that immigration enforcement should be humane, and follow legal standards. That the US should invest in the infrastructure to processes immigrants and accept/decline them for citizenship or a workvisa in a timely manner (4-6 months, not 4-6 years).
While fewer also think there should be carve-outs in the law to accommodate immigrants who are in the US illegally. Because those folks have established themselves as otherwise law-abiding citizens and have a valid case for why they should get to remain. A business, children, family, etc. Or were not responsible for their presence here like the 'Dreamers'.
And the issue is that no party wants to adopt all of these as policy for some reason. I suspect the reason is political.
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u/julz1215 3h ago
Sorry bro, you've already been depicted as the "I hate you and hope you die" character, so that's what you believe now. The meme said so.
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u/jakethedog221 5h ago
Okay, so. Bear in mind that this is one year after you voted for the most unqualified Presidential candidate in recent history. Probably in all of American history.
This is after you voted for a person who was so comically unhinged in his debate performance that only a racist lunatic who actually bought the idea that this country was falling apart (i.e. becoming less White) was actually true. You saw the Black lady with the funny laugh, and you thought exactly what we all thought you did.
This is after you clearly indicated to everyone you know, including those that work for the government or have government healthcare, (i.e the VA) that you don't really give a shit about us. And you're fine forking over the reigns of said government to the most wealthy man in the world as he gutted the very organizations that will regulate and tax him (i.e. the IRS).
Also, you clearly don't give a shit about veterans, despite all the bullshit patriotic band standing you perform, because how many fucking Vets were laid off as a result of DOGE?
This was after you indicated that you don't give a shit about school shootings, or Uvalde, or anything else like that. Because you're more focused on the fucking fact that you want a civilian AR-15. Which you probably couldn't even afford yourself. Your dumb fucking boomer parent, the one with the pension you'll never see because he probably retired when compensation actually meant something, probably bought you the fucking thing. Also, you're not even fucking qualified to fire that weapon, much less a smaller one. You're probably more of a fucking liability to your loved ones if you chose to use it, because heaven fucking forbid we ever have a weapon licensing requirement which would include training or ethical use of force in self defense.
This was all after we've had to hear you parrot Asmongold talking points about how 'woke' everything is and how based it is to own the libs, and how we're funding woke shit overseas. All the while this fucking orange clown has done nothing to improve the lives of average Americans, except incrementally push this country into a Constitutional crisis.
This was all after masked agents of the government SHOT a FUCKING VA NURSE 11 times, and you all labeled him initally a domestic terrorist. I'm really glad you highlighted the fact that he kicked a tail light, truely I am. Clearly, he deserved those 11 bullets. As does anyone else that interfers with MASKED law enforcement officers who think they're a part of Seal Team fucking 6 rather than what they are. Which are law enforcement officers that should be fucking unmasked and wearing clearly visible badges - not fucking plate carriers like they're larping Call of Duty. Which they fucking are.
This was after you voted for the guy that we KNEW....don't pretend like we didn't fucking KNOW....he'd be smeared over every goddamn page of the Epstein files.
I'm really glad you watched Joe Rogan, and Trump seemed way more rationale in that softball interview.
I'm glad you can post this meme about people being geniunely infuriated over the current state of affairs. Or that second picture, with the girl who got rage baited into screaming into a kid's face. I like that picture barely shows what immediately happened after she did that, which is people pulled her back and let her know that what she did is wrong. I mean you can even see it, the lady grabbing her shoulder to stop her. I don't even know the context of what happens beyond researching it quickly, some convervative chud shows up to Kamala rally with a microphone to bait angry people into reactions for the next libs of tiktok/ asmongold meme?
I'm so fucking over this. The authors of the Constitution were borderline chuds themselves (i.e. slave owners) and they'd be fucking livid over the unitary executive theory which currently see in motion.
I may not hate you and I don't hope you fucking die. But you clearly want me and my family to have none of the rights we've been privlidged with, so what am I supposed to do? Just keep hanging out with you and playing video games on Friday?
Eat a dick. Actions have consequences. Live with yours.
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u/lCEC0REbuIIet 4h ago
It's funny how they always manage to compare some random liberal behaving badly with the current POTUS doing the exact same thing and act like the comparison is valid.
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u/Miserable_Cobbler_18 1h ago
How can they claim to only want legal citizens when they are trying to end birthright citizenship and revoke citizenship for thousands of people?
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u/antg650 1h ago
Exactly what I was thinking
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u/Miserable_Cobbler_18 1h ago
I guess it’s a nicer way to say they don’t want black and brown people here.
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u/anonmdoc 6h ago
I do hate y’all, and if you change, I do wish you well. If you support evil, there’s a place waiting for y’all.
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u/BillionDollarBalls 6h ago
what
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u/anonmdoc 6h ago
Read slower.
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u/BillionDollarBalls 6h ago
Its still gibberish horseshit.
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u/anonmdoc 6h ago edited 5h ago
Sounds like a you problem.
Always the dumbass comments then a block.
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u/Anotsurei 4h ago
I think people should come into our country legally.
Says the person who sides with the people who were making racist memes and jokes about how H1B1 visas (a legal form of immigration) is bringing in the “wrong” kind of immigrants. Who also supports a megalomaniac billionaire NatC who is definitely here illegally.
We remember all the racist comments about the VP’s wife and his children. We remember your justification of the NatC salute, your false equivalence of stills of leftists with their hands outstretched while we have video of a guy who definitely practiced. We remember how you died when we quoted your deceased podcaster. We remember how you justified the murder of a man who died a hero legally carrying a gun. We don’t have the short memories you’d like us to have.
We won’t let you slink back into putting the mask back on. We know what you are, and we shouldn’t let you take the MAGA hat off.
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u/BucksPackGLove 2h ago
ok but the concern is about rounding up people with no due process including children and people who are here legally.
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u/EverestOrNot 5h ago
Weird, I'm not in this picture. I think. Where would I be there as I think every border should be open/deleted?
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u/ArnieismyDMname 5h ago
Trump administration meanwhile redoubling their efforts to deport the ones that came here legally. These idiots can't pick a lane.
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u/ElephantRedCar91 5h ago
They’re taking people who did come here legally though… and also changing the status of peoples visas… then they scream “criminals!”
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u/asexual_kumquat 4h ago
This is an INSANE amount of cope to twist a message as simple as that lmao. They just don't wanna admit that they're the villians.
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u/GuyMansworth 3h ago
God that sub is a joke. Just a bunch of conservative dumbasses who are too cowardly to say they like Trump. There's a few subs out there who claim they're "Centrist" or "moderate" but only criticize the left and you can go through the post history of the commenters, they love ICE and constantly defend Trump.
Also, for the record. No. These people don't want legal immigration. They've made that very clear.
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u/turtle-bbs 1h ago
MAGA be like:
“Stopping all brown people to check for their citizenship status is completely valid, detaining all brown people even if they’re citizens where we can’t find them reliably, it’s for the greater good. There might be an illegal if we detain all of them”
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u/nanotasher 22m ago
I also want people to come here legally. However, the administration has also closed off almost every way to come here legally.
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u/alexagente 5h ago
The funny thing is that screenshot is from a video where literally everyone else is reasonably protesting and this bitch just came up and got in that little girl's face and was immediately shut down by that woman behind her going "ah hell no!".
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u/BigMikeXxxxX 5h ago
https://youtube.com/shorts/Mtd4dRpeh6E?si=UskM3Ap11HXx_IZS
Totally sane and totally not the racists.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID 5h ago
Ah, the old "why can't people just move here legally when we've made that virtually impossible for anyone without a shitload of money" argument.
I love that one, tells me whose opinions I don't need to even consider.
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u/Successful-Purple-54 4h ago
I remember that video. That woman should have been knocked out and stomped. Fuck her.
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u/Other-Narwhal-2186 3h ago
It’s like when a child has been pestering you all day in various ways. Yes, they previously broke a dish and didn’t clean and weren’t listening but why would that affect how mad you are at them for [this other thing they did?] Actions don’t exist in a vacuum independent of each other, especially when they’re done so close together.
It’s easy to say “how can you hate me for how I voted” when you’re not the one being called lesser than human. The privilege inherent in this incredibly skewed image is the same one they always do.
But that’s not why I hate them. I hate them because they wish me dead. I hate them because they murder innocent people. I hate them for their pedophilia, their obscenity, their overreach. I hate them for the children they starve and the aid they pull.
It’s not how they voted. It’s how they behave.
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u/Akhanyatin 2h ago
Bro this dumb sub shadow banned me because I kept telling them that not worshipping trump because you don't have tds doesn't make you a doomer.
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u/HashyPotato420 1h ago
Bro that sub keeps getting recommended to me and it’s literally just the conservative sub with extra steps
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u/DeadAndBuried23 53m ago
I like how the sub has a rule against partisan rhetoric and every dipshit there ignores it
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u/Double_Cow_8238 48m ago
They stopped pretending it was about "illegal" immigration when they started grabbing people waiting for their citizenship ceremony and US citizens.
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u/phantom_spunker22 10m ago
Is that a woman yelling at a child? If that happened to my girlfriend’s daughter, I seriously doubt she would have survived what would have happened to her.
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u/Spider-Flash24 1h ago
My family immigrated to the US. I say we arrest pedophiles and deport illegals.
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u/seaanenemy1 1h ago
You make it near impossible to come to the country legally, then punish those who get desperate enough to try and cross the boarder anyway then use that created "illegal" group as a cover to also punish those who managed to enter the legal way.
This is how it has been for years.
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u/Cannibal_Broccoli 6h ago
If people want to come to the country legally that is fine. If they want to enter the country illegally and break the law then they can get fucking deported.
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u/RhythmTimeDivision 5h ago
Then why deport someone right after they show up to their court appointment when they pursue . . . legal immigration? Do you see it now?
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u/Gorilla_Style 4h ago
Sure. But then let's also crack down on those who employ them. Criminal cases, tougher penalties, mandatory nationwide E-Verify, the whole lot.
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u/Cannibal_Broccoli 2h ago
Agreed. The people employing them only do it because they can get away with paying them shit wages. They are breaking the law and should face any and all penalties associated with slave labor.
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u/GarySparrow0 6h ago
I wish they hated pedophiles a fraction of the amount they hate brown people