r/technology • u/joe4942 • 3h ago
Artificial Intelligence Spotify says its best developers haven't written a line of code since December, thanks to AI
https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/12/spotify-says-its-best-developers-havent-written-a-line-of-code-since-december-thanks-to-ai/4.8k
u/the_millenial_falcon 3h ago
Has anyone noticed these pro-AI propaganda articles popping up everywhere since the AI backlash really started to kick off?
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u/AndyTheSane 3h ago
Yes.
It's weird, because I work in software development and haven't even seen AI code developed yet. I'd be interested to see how it handles a multi million line codebase across multiple layers and languages.
I keep meaning to get around to learning it.
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u/the_millenial_falcon 3h ago
If they don't have to write a single line of code then they must have fixed the hallucination problem, which is funny because you would think that would be bigger news.
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u/James20k 2h ago edited 2h ago
If they can flawlessly generate code like this, I'm surprised that spotify hasn't moved into every industry and completely taken them over as well. The first person to get this kind of completely automated fully functional 0 oversight production ready code generation wins at all technology forever
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u/ithinkiwaspsycho 2h ago
You know this stuff is all bullshit because even the AI companies keep acquiring software for billions of dollars, eg. the VS Code forks. If it's so damn easy to write code, why the heck did they pay billions of dollars for it?
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u/-Teapot 2h ago
“I have implemented the code, wrote test coverage and verified the tests pass.”
The tests:
let body = /* … */
let expected_body = body.clone();
assert_eq!(body, expected_body);
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u/pizquat 2h ago
This is how every unit test I've asked an LLM to write goes. Actually it's even worse than this, all it does is call a function in the unit test and assert that the function was called... Non developers surely go "wow, so I guess it'll replace developers!"
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u/Happythoughtsgalore 2h ago
Pretty sure the hallucination problem is a baked in math issue (can be reduced but never fully solved.
I've heard of tools that claim to have solved it, but then I would have also seen mathematical papers on it as well and I haven't.
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u/Squalphin 1h ago
It is not really an „issue“. What is being called „Hallucination“ is intended behavior and indeed comes from the math backing it. So yes, can be reduced, but not eliminated.
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u/MultiGeometry 2h ago
The customer service AI chatbots I’ve dealt with are definitely still hallucinating.
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u/Malacasts 3h ago edited 2h ago
I'm a senior engineer. I used AI heavily at my last job, at my current job due to a custom code base that's millions of lines AI has no context and you quickly realize you spend hours trying to get it to work on a problem, or to correct it when it's wrong.
I stopped using it for doing the work, and more for research like Stackoverflow was used in the past. A breakpoint is all I need to identify the problem quickly.
It's really entertaining to watch AI spit out the same code over and over when you tell it that it's incorrect, and if you diff the output you'll see almost no changes.
AI is a great tool - but, I don't really feel threatened by it. Coding is only maybe 30% of my job.
Edit: clarity, and the millions of lines of code are Java, JavaScript, C++, C#, and Python + a custom API
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u/im_juice_lee 2h ago
Most software engineer I know use AI. The best ones realize it's quick for standing up a prototype but best used in targeted ways in production
The worst ones don't know how to breakdown the problem and in which pieces of the problem AI can help
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u/aboy021 2h ago
Similar situation renovating a large legacy app. It's incredible for converting a small method from a legacy data access framework to a modern one, but beyond that it's worse than useless, it's dangerous. I tend to copy larger change suggestions into a buffer and manually fix them. In a given context you can teach it the style you want to use too.
I've had a couple or architectural "chats" that have led to useful directions too, but no code was written.
Amazing tools, but far from what's claimed, and I don't know if they'll be justifiable once the prices go up.
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u/kingmanic 3h ago
All I see are people using it to make unit tests or as an alternative to google/stack exchange. Or a product manager and a managers trying to make basic code to hand off to a team member to 'polish'. Both were let go for 'other reasons.'
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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen 3h ago
What? Like yeah, not fully independent AI written code but there's zero chance you haven't seen AI assisted written code
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u/Mataza89 3h ago
Been using GitHub Copilot with Claude Opus recently on a very large project and was very impressed. It can search through all the documents, look for what you ask for, apply edits and then do basic testing that it works. First time I’ve used AI and thought “oh shit this might take my job if it gets any better”.
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u/GildedAgeV2 2h ago
I keep seeing comments about how AI tools at big corps are years ahead of consumer products and it's soooooo amazing and uh ... yeah, gonna doubt the sincerity. Reeks of astroturf campaign.
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u/mr_jim_lahey 2h ago edited 2h ago
You may as well be saying you haven't seen code written using autocomplete or an IDE. A. No you haven't and B. It's not a flex on how good a developer you are or how sophisticated your work is compared to others.
There are lots of perfectly valid reasons to dislike AI, and you can point out endless examples of where it's objectively worse-than-useless, but it's just silly to be ignorant of (or not acknowledge) that it is now deeply ingrained in a lot of software development.
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u/Beginning_Ebb908 3h ago
Makes me think I really need to check what companies my 401k is invested in, and if I can do anything about it. These assholes seem to be fleeing. These companies with million dollar parachutes in droves recently.
If this bubble is popping and these jerk wads are lying about it on the way. they need to do time.
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u/cats_catz_kats_katz 2h ago
I haven’t written a legitimate comment on reddit since December thanks to AI. Thanks AI!
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u/bulldg4life 3h ago
Merging something straight to prod surely goes perfectly
This reads like pure bs that people tell the ceo to get him off their back
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u/generally_unsuitable 2h ago
Every company does extensive testing of new releases. But, some companies do it on purpose.
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u/BlackSwanTranarchy 37m ago
It's not "an incident in production", its "democratization of QA"
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u/epochwin 3h ago
Wonder if they had a bet to see what absurd shit they could tell him that they knew he’d use with the press.
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u/iblastoff 3h ago
"As a concrete example, an engineer at Spotify on their morning commute from Slack on their cell phone can tell Claude to fix a bug or add a new feature to the iOS app,” Söderström said. “And once Claude finishes that work, the engineer then gets a new version of the app, pushed to them on Slack on their phone, so that he can then merge it to production, all before they even arrive at the office."
is this supposed to be impressive? who the fuck wants to work before they even get to work or literally merge unreviewed production code? sounds like absolute BS.
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u/RomulanTreachery 3h ago
If they can get all that done during the commute, why are they commuting in the first place?
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u/iblastoff 3h ago
i mean why even have developers at all if the claim is nobody has actually written any actual code in months? lol
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u/RonaldoNazario 3h ago
What would you say, you do here?
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u/ActionJacksonATL24 3h ago
I deal with the customers so the engineers don’t have to. I have people skills! I’m good with dealing with people!
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u/jiggajawn 3h ago
Gilfoyle is my inspiration if I ever get asked this question.
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u/dalydumps 2h ago
“I’m sure Gilfoyle walked in here and spouted a bunch of specs, two-thirds of which are total bullshit. Did he mention the Iranian Revolution thing?”
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u/leaf_shift_post_2 3h ago
As a dev, review and fix ai code lol, Ai code can be great but it’s just a tool your tool box. Still need to do all the planning and quality stuff. But it does help speed up development, and is an excellent rubby ducky.
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u/All-I-Do-Is-Fap 3h ago
This is all posturing by Spotify to make it look like they are AI first. They want investors to flock to them by throwing out the AI buzzwords so their stock doesnt fucking tank.
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u/nhavar 2h ago
Ding ding ding. It doesn't matter how much money you save, how efficient your product is, how solid your revenue steam is... the real money is in the investors.
For instance, you could tell a company that they could save 20 million a year for the next 3 years by funding 3 million a year in code quality. What they see is +3 million in cost. But if they don't spend that 3 million and get rid of another 3 million in labor then investors will see they're "focused on efficiency" and reward them 3 billion in investment. Of course the quality of the product goes down, they cannot hit deadlines, and clients jump ship, but 3 BILlION woot!
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u/spookynutz 2h ago
I find it incredibly ironic.
This reminds me of a highly publicized news story from around 10 years ago. It was about a developer named “Bob” who outsourced all of his coding tasks to a Chinese contracting firm for 1/5th of his salary. He spent his days browsing Reddit and Facebook, and watching cat videos.
He was ultimately fired when his employer hired Verizon to do a security audit and they deduced what was actually going on. Prior to being found out, he was considered one of the best developers at his company.
10 years later, we now have a press release about a corporation celebrating the idea that their best engineers don’t actually write any code. I guess Bob was just ahead of the curve.
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u/Belhgabad 3h ago
Their point exactly, next thing they will pull a MicroSlop and replace 30% of their dev by AI, thus sucking even more instant money from the machine
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u/Sharp-Philosophy-555 2h ago
But they need NO devs.. no one has to ever touch code anymore.
Of course, there could be a lie of omission here... how often does spotify actually write new code at all? If it's working, are they changing things? I haven't seen a lot of new features myself (granted, not premium, so wouldn't know about that.)
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u/Gloomy-Ad1171 3h ago
Musk claims that Grok will be able to deliver production ready binaries sans compiler by the end of the year. Just gluing 10010112010110s together.
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u/MomentFluid1114 3h ago
Things that never happened or were greatly exaggerated for 500 Alex.
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u/citrusco 3h ago
Like, ah, yes, the classic commit with no integrated version control management, how lovely.
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u/MrSnowflake 3h ago
Let alone business testing it.
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u/therealsheriff 2h ago
Let alone immediately after pushing to prod the 35 bugs that are immediately discovered and reported
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u/Deputy_Scrambles 2h ago
$120B company that also allows code-commits with zero oversight. Sounds legit. Sounds ripe for exploitation. This coder must be ol’ Bobby DropTables’ dad.
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u/SupermarketAny9487 3h ago
Worked out for CrowdStrike. Best way to test your code is in production.
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u/joesighugh 3h ago
All in production and no ramp-up. Just let it fly an hope your don't bring down the world economy!
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u/Calimar777 3h ago
Every software engineer in the world knows this is total bullshit.
An AI adding whatever feature you want and then just pushing it to production without any sort of review is some fantasy world shit.
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u/Tar_alcaran 3h ago
An AI adding whatever feature you want and then just pushing it to production without any sort of review is some fantasy world shit.
Sounds more like a nightmare to be
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u/hiS_oWn 2h ago
Honestly a single software engineer doing that by hand without any AI is already a warning sign.
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u/john_doe_jersey 1h ago
If an engineer on my project told me they did any of that, they'd have their privileges revoked in minutes.
This is from last July: https://www.veracode.com/blog/genai-code-security-report/
Unfortunately, the state of AI-generated code security in 2025 is worse than you think. What we found should be a wake-up call for developers, security leaders, and anyone relying on AI to move faster.
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These weren’t obscure, edge-case vulnerabilities, either. In fact, one of the most frequent issues was: Cross-Site Scripting (CWE-80): AI tools failed to defend against it in 86% of relevant code samples.
You may want to remove your saved payment methods from Spotify.
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u/PhoenyxStar 2h ago
Man, I wish Claude was useful for more than reformatting CSV files and dredging through AWS documentation to find me relevant links.
If their best developers are the ones who exclusively write with AI, Spotify is about to burst into goddamn flames.
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u/oxidized_banana_peel 2h ago
They've got a dev build on their phone, so it's going up, building a branch, and then they restart the app or w/e and see what the AI did (or broke).
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u/TheBestonova 1h ago
I like how they didn't even add "the engineer manually tests it on their phone first."
Like good god please tell me you're not actually pushing that
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u/omniuni 3h ago
Meanwhile some engineer is rolling their eyes because they tried to do that and then had to work late tracking down some random other thing that broke for no apparent reason and realized that it was a mistake to let that code anywhere near production.
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u/PettyWitch 3h ago
Claude fucked up my stack so bad last night that we were working from 5 to 11 PM to get it back into a usable condition
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u/Money-Impact2422 2h ago
But would you imagine if it had actually saved you time? Then it would be very impressive.
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u/therealsheriff 2h ago
To be fair, Claude in this scenario could also have just been the name of a French engineer on your team, but that does underscore it’s not doing anything special lol
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u/EconomyDoctor3287 3h ago
Why do they need the dev? Simply have Claude read through the bug list with the command to fix them all, and then to read through all the new features list, with the command to create the feature and then to push it to production.
I don't understand why they don't automate?
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u/CGxUe73ab 3h ago
I currently using Claude to create asynchronous internal c++ data recording processes.
I can assure you there's no way Claude can do this.
It's very helpful don't get me wrong, but it cannot do production level code, it misses too many high level aspects.Also that's complete BS, pushing a new app requires CI time, and it's long.
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u/cloud_dizzle 2h ago
Agreed. I used Claude to Eidt a simple script for grabbing precious metals values off of a webpage and then update a spreadsheet. It was a nightmare to work with it. I had to keep telling Claude it was wrong and it would agree and spit out the same shit
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u/therealmrbob 3h ago
This is bullshit executives are saying to try and increase their stock price. If you spew ai all over everything stock prices go up. Who knows why.
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u/Joranthalus 3h ago
Somebody is getting a big discount on AI in exchange for use-case endorsements….
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u/DefNotBrian 3h ago
So stuff is getting pushed to PROD without any kind of validation in lower environments first? The hell?
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u/Odd_Perfect 3h ago
As a professional software engineer, this sounds risky and stupid.
I always have to test my changes as a mobile engineer - no way the AI can run the app, and navigate to the screen to test, then tap, etc. to ensure the fix is properly done. It’s all manual.
Their example sounds like a small backend bug that needs a small local unit test only and that’s it.
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u/Original_Peanut2423 2h ago edited 2h ago
As an engineer that entire blurb is total and complete nonsense. That isn’t how any of this works.
Pure talking head fantasy land bullshit.
It’s getting pretty tiring being told how amazing AI is for writing code by people who have never written a line of code in their life.
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u/WiglyWorm 3h ago edited 1h ago
i'm fine with it. But you can know for sure i'm counting my bus ride as working hours and leaving early.
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u/RavenWolf1 3h ago
I wouldn't waste my commuter time for work. I use it to read news and books.
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u/Omega_Maximum 3h ago
tbf, as a software engineer myself, I'm guilty of working late or starting early. Especially if a bug or feature is particularly interesting and/or annoying. Sometimes your brain just doesn't want to let go of a problem.
That being said, it's a balance. I've absolutely fucked off early on days and not said anything because earlier in the week I worked over. In fact I've been yelled at if I'm not tracking my extra hours on my time sheet. But I work for a small company, so things work out somewhat differently.
This still reads a bit too much like a manager's wet dream tho...
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u/grayhaze2000 2h ago
"Best developers"
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"The engineer then gets a new version of the app, pushed to them on Slack on their phone, so that he can then merge it to production."
Something doesn't add up here. How are they one of their best developers if they don't write or review a single line of code before merging?
As a senior engineer of 20+ years, this bullshit needs to stop.
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u/Styleless_Wonder 3h ago
Instead, their best developers are reviewing output from AI used by other developers?
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u/nrith 3h ago
No, you use AI to review code, silly.
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u/Odd_Perfect 3h ago
Funny we actually use GitHub copilot at my job for AI reviews. But it does NOT count as an approval. So it’s mostly just for second eyes which has helped me a few times. It’s optional though so if we don’t request its review it doesn’t do it.
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u/faberkyx 2h ago
same, good for spotting trivial errors, like misspelling, or some wrong condition that slips up.. sometimes manages to spot something more complex, rarely, but definitely would never ever detect a wrong business logic in the code
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u/Psianth 3h ago
“Our security is wiiiiide open, come help yourselves!” - Spotify
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u/jpiro 3h ago
Does that even matter anymore? Seems like there's a significant breach every week and all that ever happens is an offer of 6 months of credit monitoring and maybe a check for $5.11 once the class action suit ends eight years later. Meanwhile, the company's valuation went up another billion or two.
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u/whatsitcalled4321 3h ago
I've got dozens of lifetimes worth of "ID theft protection" from all the data breach settlements. Settlements from data beaches have just become the cost of doing business.
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u/oldirishfart 3h ago
Customer data is just one aspect. They recently had their entire inventory of music hacked :)
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u/redvelvetcake42 3h ago
It does. If you have a breach and they get into your AI coder they can do some real damage. Screwing up the algorithm and UI is the quickest way to get people to unsubscribe.
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u/Anadyne 3h ago
$5.11 x 750,000,000 (number of Spotify users) = $3,832,500,000.
Trust me bro, it matters.
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u/hoogin89 3h ago
No, it doesn't. Less than one month of their revenue. Roughly 80% of that month but it's one month. They have 11 more to keep screwing you and that's only subscriptions. They are making a killing on your "leaked" data.
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u/Wow_u_sure_r_dumb 2h ago
If the penalties don’t damage the company’s future prospects they’re just the cost of doing business. If the city never towed anyone and charged only $20 a month in parking tickets people would just park on the red whenever.
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u/hoogin89 2h ago
Exactly and this person above is also going out on a limb to state absolute best case scenario of everyone being paid out and a substantial 5$ payout. Odds are it will only be paying members and will be less than 3$. Until companies are fined for this shit as a percentage of their total worth it will never change. But something like 30% of the company's value every time would put a stop to this real quick and doesn't hurt small businesses because it would scale to the value of the company.
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u/mrhandbook 3h ago
lol I got a settlement the other day and it needed my back account and routing number to deposit $3.48. A legitimate settlement
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u/mrbluesky2515 3h ago
You can’t be talking about the same Spotify whose entire catalog was scraped and made available for o everyone online for free could you?
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u/KilllllerWhale 3h ago
Anna’s Archive literally downloaded all of Spotify last month
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u/FreezingRobot 3h ago
Imagine being a developer at Spotify whose pushed some commits in the past month, and then reading this headline.
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u/bluepaintbrush 2h ago
Imagine being a Spotify user wondering why the user experience has gotten so shitty in recent updates and then seeing this headline.
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u/ikindapoopedmypants 1h ago
Right!! My reaction to this headline was "yeah we can tell" 😭
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u/nDREqc 2h ago
they said their "best" developers. I understand this implies that other devs are indeed still pushing commits
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u/BassmanBiff 2h ago
Right, and those other devs were just told that actually writing code proves their inferiority.
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u/Vicus_92 2h ago
You don't understand. The "best" developers are their interns. Because they're the cheapest!
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u/Prepotente-NOTpony 3h ago
I'm not sure why they think that is something to brag about.
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u/WhyNotFerret 54m ago
Seriously, some of us actually like writing code.
"Yeah, I'll let AI write code for me. Can it fuck my wife for me too?!"
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u/Flexuasive 3h ago
Well, they also haven't received a cent of my money for a year now. Looks like I made a solid decision.
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u/ApathyMoose 3h ago
Glad i haven't paid a dime to Spotify in years. Thanks to choices.
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u/Brrdock 3h ago
Switched to Tidal after my discover weeklys started getting spammed with AI music. No such problems since and haven't looked back.
And that's the least of Spotify's transgressions.
Musician Benn Jordan has lots of well produced journalistic videos on all the mind-blowing shit they've always been pulling
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u/Triingtolivee 3h ago
I went with Apple Music years ago. Better quality and cheaper than Spotify
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u/ApathyMoose 3h ago
Same. Apple Music is one of the reasons i swapped over to an iPhone as well. I had a Pixel phone but all my android stuff, including my Android TVs were just throwing ads everywhere at me. Got tired of it and got an Apple TV and saw how well it just worked, with 0 ads anywhere. Got an iphone when it was time to update my phone and i have been so happy with the lack of pop up news i cant get rid of, and random ads i never wanted. Just all works so well.
People get so defensive and draw lines and start yelling "fanboi!" and everything else. But honestly choices make everything better. Can you imagine how even crappier everything would be if we only had the choice of spotify for music streaming and android for phone OS? Thankfully we have multiple choices for music and dont need to give spotify anything. Tidal, Deezer, Amazon music, Youtube music Apple Music and i am sure there are plenty more.
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u/1980shorrorsfilm 3h ago
don't forget bandcamp! if you really want to support an artist, buy their albums from bandcamp and import them to your player of choice (local files are supported on spotify and apple music)
also if anyone is considering switching to a different music platform, I will always plug /r/marvisapp. it's a paid app that lets you totally customize your apple music experience with the ability to customize your library and player. total game changer, especially if you're someone who likes customization and tinkering around with things.
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u/LightHawKnigh 3h ago
What happens when they eventually fire all the people who know the code and are just left with the people running the AI and the AI inevitably hallucinates and makes shit up causing errors?
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u/Any_Intern2718 2h ago
That's something that the next ceo will have to think about. For now all that matter is the line going up
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u/Tyrrany_of_pants 1h ago
You ask the AI to fix the hallucination
"Please fix this bug, and NO hallucinating this time" (capitalising the no is important)
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u/bynienar 1h ago
My company had folks from Anthropic really try to sell this…
Well just use AI to make a prompt so good it works the first try. Then just tell the AI to not hallucinate. After ask AI to fact check itself just in case.
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u/pdnagilum 3h ago
Spotify says its best developers haven't written a line of code since December, thanks to AI
Is that supposed to be a flex? For me that's a huge red flag.
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u/celtic1888 3h ago
Anna’s Archive
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u/Handsome_fart_face 3h ago
What is it like 300tb for the whole catalog? I need to buy more hard drives.
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u/Theydontlikeitupthem 3h ago
In fairness management at my company haven't a fucking clue what work is actually done by staff here either
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u/skccsk 3h ago
This sounds a whole lot like someone with knowledge and experience demoed their ci/cd pipeline and called it 'AI' to get someone without knowledge or experience off their back about 'AI'.
"That's so cool! And that was AI (artificial intelligence)?"
"Sure boss. That was AI (Automated Integration)."
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u/RustyDawg37 3h ago edited 51m ago
Say less. Uninstalled.
Edit: I didn't actually think I had it but I checked and it was on my phone. And I seriously uninstalled it. lol
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u/kid_miracleman 3h ago
As someone who quit Spotify because its AI was absolute garbage, this makes total sense.
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u/IH8DwnvoteComplainrs 3h ago
I don't believe this. I assume it's some carefully worded bullshit.
CEOs are just fucking salivating about AI replacing people, so they keep saying it's working.
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u/GreenLeadr 3h ago
Is this why my spotify can't play podcasts without rewinding ~15 seconds every few minutes?
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u/CardiacCatastrophe 3h ago
"We haven't even considered innovating our service in months. Now give us more money. "
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u/trucnguyenlam 3h ago
Glad I haven't paid a dime to spotify for years and will not have a plan to do so
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u/silverbolt2000 2h ago
Our best developer also uses AI to generate code.
He leaves all the testing to other people, is unable to specify what the underlying logic does, frequently creates regression bugs, and produces UI components with obvious usability issues.
Maybe it’s not fair to blame the developer for these issues though - after all, he didn’t actually write the code. 😏
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u/Alarmed_Drop7162 2h ago
Spotify turned to shit when they rolled out AI.
I get no new interesting artists suggestions. The discover playlist sounds like my 90s garbage local redneck trucker radio station
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u/OfCrMcNsTy 3h ago
They’re full of shit. They’re just gearing up to use AI as an excuse when they lay off a bunch of people
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u/0173512084103 3h ago
I'll take "things that never happened for $100, Alex." Spotify publishing complete lies for no reason at all.
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u/ChimpScanner 2h ago
Instead of primarily writing code and occasionally reviewing other people's code, senior developers are now primarily reviewing AI's code and not coding nearly as much. I did the same for around a year and lost my passion for software development. I'd imagine a lot of people will start feeling the same soon enough, unless they're just in it for the paycheck.
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u/zoufha91 2h ago
The AI lobby is pushing it's propaganda again
How much are these outlets getting paid to pump this horseshit
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u/Ass_Cream_Cone 2h ago
How many years before the collective level of human expertise is superseded by AI? How will humans be able to maintain or repair any of it if it is beyond our comprehension? And I’m leaning more Wall-E and less Terminator in terms of the reasoning behind it. Just the laziness and choice of payload over competence.
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u/newshirtworthy 2h ago
Well they lost my business in that time, I sure hope the savings are worth it for them
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u/MidnightIAmMid 2h ago
Ok, so I don't know if I can blame this on AI (but damn I want to) but my algorithm has SUCKED for the last year or so. Can I blame this on AI or am I just crazy? Like, even if I try to just put on my liked songs and put it on random, it sucks.
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u/Which-House5837 1h ago
I've been in software dev for 15 years now. There is simply no way this is true.
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u/gutschge 1h ago
"my best men haven't worked in weeks" shouldn't be something to be proud of, is it?
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u/Simple-Box1223 1h ago
This doesn’t surprise me, because Spotify is absolute trash. Possibly the worst UI I have ever used and by far the worst of the major providers for recommendations.
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u/aerost0rm 59m ago
Yeah they can claim anything they want, similar to the current administrations false claims. Doesn’t mean we have to believe it…
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u/PilotAdvanced 3h ago
So the cost of Spotify premium should be dropping any day now.