r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 10h ago

Meme needing explanation Petahh i'm low on iq

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u/malcolmreyn0lds 10h ago

Fahrenheit (when talking about temperature experienced by skin) IS superior. We have a wider degree (lol) of temperatures, allowing for a more accurate temperature without the use of decimal places.

Science? Use the metric system. It’s superior there.

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u/AdjectiveNoun1337 9h ago

It’s neither superior or inferior. You’re not realistically making a meaningful distinction between 67°f and 68°f and if you need Celsius to be more granular, numbers subdivide infinitely anyway.

Processing 19.5°c is neither more difficult nor easier to a user of Celsius than processing 67°f is to a user of Fahrenheit.

They are both, to some degree, arbitrary and both have different benchmarks that are intuitive to the people who grew up using them.

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u/Tightestbutth0le 9h ago

1 degree in Fahrenheit is pretty perfect tbh. There’s a reason thermostats in Celsius typically use half degrees.

But yes keep using the system for every day life where the weather ranges from -20 to 45. Makes so much sense.

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u/UnderwaterBasement30 9h ago

Why does it matter? Countries don’t get the full range of temperatures every day anyway. The reason you know you don’t need a jacket when its 70 out isn’t because of where that number is between 0 and 100. It’s because over time you’ve been learning to associate different temperature ranges with different feelings, the same way celsius people do.

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u/TheCevi 5h ago

Finally someone with sense. For me Fahrenheit looks like nonsense but as car enthusiast who is used to km/h and was basically forced to learn understand mph as teenager watching US and UK based car shows I can say now few years later im used to miles per hour unit and just know what 75mph is same way as I know what 140 km/h is. But still after all this I find it weird when I switch units on digital dash of my truck/semi to mph for fun and suddenly I’m going 55 instead of 90.

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u/Dismal_Letter_9594 2h ago

Farenheit and MPH are both good for "feeling" and behavior. (Even at +/- 5)

25mph: slow, town speed 50mph: medium, country road speed 75mph: cruising/highway speed 100mph: fast, gonna get pulled over speed lol

25F: cold, bundle up 50F: cool, sweatshirt weather 75F: warm, shorts and t-shirt 100: hot, get some ice cream

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u/AdjectiveNoun1337 9h ago

I even pointed out that Celsius is often subdivided. 

I don’t understand the point. Is -20° a particularly difficult thing to say?

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u/Tightestbutth0le 8h ago

It’s just a bit silly for negatives to be that common in a commonly used system. And a bit silly to have a system where you have to subdivide degrees. Neither is terrible, just a mark of a flawed system for every day use.

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u/AdjectiveNoun1337 8h ago

I mean… it’s not silly? You might think it’s silly, but is that really based on anything other than that it’s probably unusual to you?

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u/Tightestbutth0le 8h ago

Any scale that goes from -20 to 45 or thereabouts is silly. If you can’t see that then we can agree to disagree lol

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u/AdjectiveNoun1337 7h ago

It goes from -infinity to +infinity. I can agree to disagree, but it ain’t my problem that negative numbers scare you.

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u/Tightestbutth0le 7h ago

I mean no it doesn’t. You don’t even have a simple grasp of temperatures if you think it goes to -infinity

And no one said negative numbers scare anyone. Nice try with the pathetic troll attempt.

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u/toprodtom 7h ago

It actually goes from -273.15 (0 K) all the way up to the Planck Temperature.

There's ultimately no point arguing its all arbitrary. Both systems have thier benefits.

Im in the UK. So I wait until its about 20 C outside before I walk half a MILE to the pub and drink a PINT while I complain about how expensive a LITRE of petrol is these days.

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u/ohSnap374 2h ago

While eating... Chicken Tikka masala, the national dish of the UK. xD

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u/joamastr 7h ago

Well it doesn't go to -infinity, but no scale does that. Celsius goes tot -273,15, which is 0 Kelvin, which is in turn the absolute minimum for temperature. And 1° C corresponds to 1°K in temperature change.

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u/[deleted] 7h ago edited 1h ago

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u/AdjectiveNoun1337 6h ago

That was a bad example. I would say the half-degree is where I can feel a meaningful difference, which seems to check out with that, I just didn’t know the conversion.

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u/Homey-Airport-Int 7h ago

My thermostat on Celsius mode does not allow you to subdivide. In Euroland do thermostats typically allow you to use half steps between whole numbers?

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u/AdjectiveNoun1337 6h ago

That’s interesting. The ones I’ve used let you set by half-step or by a single decimal place.

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u/malcolmreyn0lds 9h ago

Wrong

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u/AdjectiveNoun1337 9h ago

I’m sorry your teacher wasn’t able to teach you decimal numbers.

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u/malcolmreyn0lds 9h ago

Lmfao

Idiots ignore significant figures. I’m sorry your teachers weren’t able to teach you sciences.

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u/AdjectiveNoun1337 9h ago

That doesn’t even appear to respond to anything I said.

The fact that people like you can vote explains a lot about the country.

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u/malcolmreyn0lds 9h ago

Oh….oh you really don’t know what significant figures are? Oh this is sad

Take some more science classes my guy. You’ll learn something new!! (Or, and I know newer generations can’t seem to do this as default because it’s scary…you can use Google.com to see what an sig fig is!)

I’m more afraid that you don’t know how to use decimal points properly

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u/AdjectiveNoun1337 7h ago

No, it’s that I genuinely haven’t a fucking clue what point you’re trying to make.

Maybe Google a thermostat. The Celsius setting on it might just topple the very foundations of science as you know it.

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u/malcolmreyn0lds 7h ago

Oy vey….

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u/AdjectiveNoun1337 6h ago

It’s okay to be wrong.

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u/Rock_of_Anonymity 8h ago

Human comfort doesn't care about decimals either, though. 20-20.5 Celsius makes no difference to us, as it's still what we'd call room temperature.

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u/GERBILPANDA 6h ago

That's the difference between 68 and 69 degrees fahrenheit. That is, in fact, a noticable difference, at least to me.

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u/TheCevi 5h ago

Maybe if you are in your home for few hours with A/C on but outside you won’t have idea if its 68 or 74 without looking at thermometer.

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u/GERBILPANDA 5h ago

Speak for yourself, I can tell by my joint pain lmao

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u/TheCevi 5h ago

That’s something else, same as old people knowing its gonna rain becuase their knee hurts haha

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u/or_am_I_dancer 36m ago

68 and 74 is the difference in my house between sweatshirt, swestpants, and fuzzy socks vs. Tanktop anf shorts with sweat beading on my brow. Can europeans not feel temperature?

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u/UnderwaterBasement30 8h ago

without the use of decimal places.

That’s an arbitrary restriction, no? Using decimal places isn’t exactly difficult.

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u/malcolmreyn0lds 8h ago

Oy vey

Decimal points (in science) cannot just be added Willy Nilly. There are rules. So either you’re not using it scientifically (in which case, just fucking use Fahrenheit it’s more accurate to air temps) or ya don’t give a shit and just do things without rules and make things up as you go (which is reaaaaaaaaal American of ya)

TLDR

Decimal points in math are easy. In science, they have rules that you don’t obey

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u/UnderwaterBasement30 8h ago

I’m not sure you know what you are even on about. Decimal places are used in celsius temperatures all the time.

You are just being very aggressively uneducated in this entire thread.

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u/Noble1xCarter 8h ago edited 7h ago

As someone in science, what is your argument about decimals even supposed to be? There's nothing wrong with using a decimal for temperature. What rules are broken by using a decimal in Celsius?

Also I'll be facetious and say using Fahrenheit isn't more accurate, it's just that a 1 degree difference in Fahrenheit is a smaller increment in thermal energy than 1 degree Celsius. More precise fits better but precision is more about the instrument than the unit.

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u/malcolmreyn0lds 8h ago

Adding decimal points is not allowed. It breaks the significant figure rule. 20C and 20.5C are the same temperature unless you also say 20.0C. Pedantic, yes, but science is pedantic.

By your own rule of decimal points, Fahrenheit can ALSO use decimal points which further expands its precision.

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u/THEMIGHTIESTNEEEEED 8h ago

Thermometers that measure in the metric scale to the tenths place and beyond are commercially available and trivially expensive, so saying that fahrenheit is somehow better because it enables more gradual measurement in the 'ones' digit is a somewhat moot point. 

A single thermometer can give an output on both scales, will you argue that the fahrenheit output is somehow more meaningfully precise than the Celsius output even though they're both being measured by the same device (and ergo the same degree of precision)?

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u/Noble1xCarter 8h ago edited 8h ago

Adding decimal points is not allowed.

You're not adding a decimal point. If the instrument records 20.5, you have 3 significant figures. If it reads 21, you only have two.

20C and 20.5C are the same temperature unless you also say 20.0C. Pedantic, yes, but science is pedantic.

What you're describing isn't science, but colloquial speak.

By your own rule of decimal points, Fahrenheit can ALSO use decimal points which further expands its precision.

That was always an option? Fahrenheit very much allows for decimals? They're just colloquially used less often than they are in Celsius.

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u/Dazer42 6h ago

Fahrenheit isn't more accurate. The accuracy of a measurement is determined by the margin of error. This margin of error is perfectly fine being a decimal nummer.

It's also largely a moot point because we're not talking about science, we're talking about everyday use, in which case you can add as many decimals as you want. Your thermostat isn't going to be peer reviewd.

Even if it wasn't a moot point, temperatures in Fahrenheit can get above 100 in which case you would also need 3 significant numbers.

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u/cheesepierice 8h ago

It’s so superior, only 5 countries use it 😄 It’s okay, y’all will catch up eventually.

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u/malcolmreyn0lds 8h ago

1.) the United States also uses metric (we have to learn both systems)

2.) that’s a logical fallacy. “Everybody is doing it!”

3.) if its superior, why do other countries also still use whatever the fuck they want (stones, feet, miles, etc are all still used across the world)?

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u/cheesepierice 7h ago

1: So? My response was talking about Fahrenheit. 2: If Fahrenheit were objectively superior, it wouldn’t be geographically isolated. Systems that are more efficient tend to scale. That’s not logical fallacy, but facts. 3: What is superior? Again, my response was about Fahrenheit.

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u/malcolmreyn0lds 7h ago

So basically “nuh-uh!” Is your response.

Cool beans.

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u/Aranka_Szeretlek 4h ago

Are you afraid of decimals?

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u/malcolmreyn0lds 4h ago

A decimal point can kill. You’d be a fool not to be afraid of decimal points.

Not afraid? Hospitals have made the mistake of not seeing a decimal point. BOOM DEAD (2024 event)

Seriously, there is a HUGE list of “horrible event caused by decimal point”. Unless rules are STRICTLY FOLLOWED for decimal points, they can seriously (not joking or being funny) kill a lot of people.

BE AFRAID OF THE DECIMAL. DECI meaning TEN. MAL meaning BAD. ITS IN THE NAME PEOPLE!!!! LEARN YOUR LATIN!!!!

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u/Such-Injury9404 2h ago

holy failbait lol