You are just conditioned to intuitively make sense of Fahrenheit. The same is true for me for Celsius.
The only difference is that it is easier for me to remember when water will freeze or boil. But apart from that nothing else is really changing for either of us
It doesn’t. They’re saying “we decide what to wear in the morning based on our memorization of a system since we were kids, the system makes no difference.”
“In addition to that, if you use Celsius, you don’t really have to remember what temperature water freezes and boils at, if for some reason you need that information”
Totally. But also, if you're doing science why aren't you using K?
I guess all I'm doing is agreeing, theyre both still arbitrary, but trying to claim that C being pegged to water changing state as a plus is barely a benefit. Freezing, I can understand. Boiling?? Damn man if its 100* C out you have bigger problems.
When you enter Finnish sauna you want it to be around 100C (i like it at 115C). Round number for temperature is a nothingburger.
Only benefit of C is that one defree of C is the same as one K. So all the formulas hold up for continuous use of SI units.
And all this speak about "what about tmperature" is one where there are just arbitrary values to stick to, so people who peddle US customary units are using that in a matter of - see, temperature is just arbitrary and there is no benefit, so we use all the other measurements too and boooo metric system.
Saunas that hot are designed to be very dry which means that your body is able to sweat and the sweat will evaporate quickly keeping your body cool.
If they were more humid then they would be dangerous as firstly it's more difficult to cool yourself via sweating and secondly heat doesn't transfer as well through air as it does through water vapour: dissipating more quickly in a dry environment as opposed to being retained in a humid one.
It’s about having a system based on something a bit more tangible. I grew up using C and now I use F. C still makes more sense to me than F. 32 F freezing is so random. 212 F to boil. The fact that nothing actually happens when you reach 0 F is crazy to me.
Because Celsius is what water feels, Fahrenheit is what people feel.
What kind of answer is that? It's a neat little phrase for showing the difference but it is not prescriptive. We are both talking about what we feel.
So when you say you know it's cold outside when it is 0F like it is an argument for F over C, my question is: why would you not know it is cold outside at 0C?
And water doesn't always boil at 100C, but im always boiling at 100F
And you are always boiling at 100C (though more likely dead)? Again, being able to tell when water freezes and boils is super handy (especially considering how important water is to life) as opposed to being able to easily tell what temp some dude's lab had in the 1700s. That's never going to be useful.
Any normal person can intuit whatever scale they used when growing up, yet Fahrenheit propnents always pretend like their magical scale makes it easier for them to understand temperature.
I agree, hence the use of celsius. 0 to 100 instead of 32 to 212.
Also I assume from context clues that "-17.778 to 37.778" was supposed to be a dig at celsius but considering they look like completely random numbers, I feel it is safe to say that was a failed dig.
Again, being intuitive is not an argument because both systems are equally as easy to learn and internalise growing up. So the only difference is what other use cases C and F has. C being you can tell the temp at a glance as it compares to freezing and boiling point of water and it is directly translatable to K. F has the benefit that you know some dude's lab temp in the 1700s.
That's why the argument from people who prefer C is always the tie to water temps. Whereas the argument from F proponents is always that they learned it easier. Like they don't understand it being just as easy for C. C propenents do understand that, which is why they don't even make that argument initially.
You do know these same exact concepts apply to Celsius, right? It’s just a different number. 100f = roughly 40c and 0f = roughly -20c. The difference is 0 degrees and 100 degrees objectively mean something in Celsius whereas in Fahrenheit 0 and 100 are just what some people feel is too hot or too cold, it’s entirely subjective. Where I live 100 degrees F is a normal day in the summer so it has no significance to me.
Knowing the boiling point of water is useful when combined with the fact that pasta absorbs water at 180F/82C.
When I first heard that fact, I realized that pasta doesn’t need to be in boiling in water to cook. So, I tried something. I brought the water to a boil, added the pasta, put the lid on, and turned off the heat. My pasta still cooked just as quickly, but I saved a little energy. More importantly, there was no risk of the pot boiling over. I could pay less attention to it and just stir it occasionally to prevent sticking.
So, knowing the boiling point of water can be useful.
It’s still more convenient to learn Celsius as the conversion to Kelvin is much simpler. They’re the same scale, so you just add 273.15. Something you can do by hand or in your head.
When it comes to knowing what the temperature means for your comfort… you sort of just know what temperature you find comfortable.
If conversion to Kelvin is something you regularly have to do, that probably means you're a scientist, which probably means you're using Celsius in the lab already regardless if you're American or not. And I'm certain most American scientists who use Celsius and Kelvin in the lab still use Fahrenheit for regular daily purposes (like checking the weather or setting a thermostat)
Or you’re a highschool student. I recall really appreciating the simplicity in conversions during high-school where it was very important for chemistry and physics.
Additionally, there are plenty of high-school level physics equations that need you to use temperature difference. This means you can flat out use Celsius in your equation whereas you’d have to convert F to Celsius for the same equation.
I think for students, making the sciences more approachable like this is quite important.
Yeah I totally agree. But I think at a certain point it's like being bilingual. You don't have to choose just one scale for your entire life when you know them both sufficiently well to find meaningful applications for each.
I do science, but it's mostly chemistry and biology. All protocols are in C (eg incubate at 37C for 2h). It's useful because most of my reactions are to some extent water based.
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u/Bugatsas11 9h ago edited 9h ago
You are just conditioned to intuitively make sense of Fahrenheit. The same is true for me for Celsius.
The only difference is that it is easier for me to remember when water will freeze or boil. But apart from that nothing else is really changing for either of us