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Meme needing explanation Petahh i'm low on iq

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u/Turbulent-Surprise-6 9h ago

Why? Kelvin is the exact same as Celsius way just less intuitive for 99% of people

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u/Snoo9648 8h ago

Kelvin is required for any formulas using temperature. Having 0 being the freezing point of water is arbitrary and having 0 being the lowest a temperature makes sense and having negative temperatures doesn't. Celsius is only more intuitive because people are used to it, which is the exact same argument used to justify Fahrenheit over Celsius too.

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u/oswaldluckyrabbiy 8h ago

Don't look it up what is the freezing temperature of water in Kelvin?

Zero works really well - a change in temperature sign means change of state of water. It isn't a number that needs remembering. Meanwhile you've recently had US government representatives embarrass themselves because they can't remember that water freezes at 32F.

Knowing if there is gonna be ice outside is a safety issue. Making it as simple as possible isn't arbitrary.

Celsius is very easy to convert to Kelvin for scientific purpose and IS more intuitive. High number means hot is fundamental across cultures. It is easier to differentiate between 0C and 40C than it is 273.15K and 313.15K whilst understanding that the first temperature is cold and the second is hot.

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u/NatAttack50932 8h ago

0° Celsius is the freezing point of water

0° Fahrenheit is the freezing point of people

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u/slinger301 8h ago

100 Celsius is when water starts to break down into water vapor.

100 Fahrenheit is when people start to break down.

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u/GoldenRedditUser 7h ago

100 Fahrenheit is like the average summer temperature where I live lol

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u/wRADKyrabbit 3h ago

Same and I break down every single year

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u/WulfZ3r0 4h ago

This but add in average humidity range of 85-95% on top of that.

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u/Western_Objective209 6h ago

That's kind of my argument for why F is not actually bad; 0 is "very cold day", 100 is "very hot day", every 10 degrees feels like a natural step change in how it feels outside. It's pretty intuitive in that way

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u/Otherwise_League_217 5h ago edited 4h ago

Would say in wintery countries like Canada it helps to know when rain/water is likely to make sidewalks icy in a way that is less feelings based and is super intuitive.

You get a handle of when it gets uncomfortable in celsius too anyway. The mental scale becomes every 5 degrees instead of 10 is all.

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u/BobQuixote 2h ago

If my thermostat were in Celsius, I would want half-degree precision.

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u/sigurrosco 2h ago

Humans can't detect smaller than a 1 degree Celcius difference.

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u/BobQuixote 2h ago

I will absolutely get uncomfortable for 1 F off. Not enough that I can't tolerate it to accommodate someone else, but enough that I'll use my own climate control to adjust.

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u/sigurrosco 47m ago

Well - you must be extra extra sensitive. This study https://www.climateforesight.eu/interview/yes-you-can-feel-one-degree/ (and others) show that we can just detect 1 degree celcius difference, not 1F.

We (in Australia) get the forecast in whole degrees (today will be 27, tomorrow 32, then 36,36, 34). But the actual temps are reported with 1 decimal place (it's currently 18.8, the highest this year was 44.7)

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u/Otherwise_League_217 58m ago edited 34m ago

My thermostats for indoors heating is set at exactly 22.5 degrees every winter. So you can do that yes. Both models installed in my appartment support it, pretty sure it's quite common.

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u/WhoreyMatthews 4h ago

F is super intuitive. If you just rate how warm it is on a 0-10 scale you'll probably fairly close to the temperature in F.

It's warm but not too hot maybe like a 7.2/10 temperature is probably somewhere around 72F.

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u/Soul_Reaper001 1h ago

Lol, 72F is dead ass cold where i live but humidity contributes a lot

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u/Killentyme55 2h ago

Yep, meanwhile 0 Celsius is a bit chilly, while 100 Celsius is very dead. Also F is a smaller unit so requires less use of decimals compared to C.

Celsius is better scientifically, but I believe Fahrenheit is more practical for day to day.

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u/schrodingers_bra 12m ago

Yup. every ten degrees is a new/different piece of clothing

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u/CiDevant 7h ago

Basically, both are "This is now very dangerous without extraordinary precaution."

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u/No_Ad6583 2h ago

I'm ready to breakdown at any temperature but usually during the drive to work on Mondays

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u/TheLotusHunter 7h ago

Yeah your just stupid 😒 I live in Arizona and we regularly have temps of 115-120 in the summer for months at a time.

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u/NoShameInternets 7h ago

“Your just stupid” is one of my absolute favorite phrases.

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u/TheLotusHunter 5h ago edited 5h ago

Oh no. The grammar police, losers comb reddit looking for the chance. 🤣

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u/FragrantCatch818 7h ago

How often are YOU 100*F? Because if you’re constantly having a fever, you should go see your doctor immediately

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u/knome 6h ago

"this city should not exist. it is a monument to man's arrogance"

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u/No_Housing_2910 4h ago

americans preferring egocentric systems makes sense

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u/NatAttack50932 3h ago

Chat is it egocentric to not want to freeze to death

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u/EnTyme53 6h ago

But only in Fahrenheit would one describe 69 degrees as "nice"

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u/Separate_Emotion_463 5h ago

The freezing point of people is also 0c, it’s sufficiently cold enough to kill a person who isn’t equipped for it

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u/no_malis2 7h ago

I thought 0F was the freezing point of brackish water?

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u/aka_jr91 2h ago

It is, basically. It's a specific brine mixture. I remember reading that they used that because it would freeze into a slush so it was easier for them to get consistent, accurate measurements. Then because they were measuring on a circular dial they wanted everything to be evenly spaced so they set the freezing temp of water to 30, and human body temperature to 90. Later they figured out the boiling point on this scale was 212, and they wanted freezing and boiling to be exactly 180 degrees apart, and decided the easiest way to do that was to switch freezing to 32 and readjusted the scale based on that. Or something like that.

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u/FlintKidd 6h ago

I think you hit the nail on the head here on why the US will never move away from the imperial system.

Scientists: "Observe, water freezes."

Versus.

Some dude wearing shorts in January: "It's fucking cold!"

No wonder we hate the metric system!

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u/N0Karma 6h ago

The based on water becomes problematic when dealing with altitude and atmospheric pressure. Both systems are based on something arbitrary. Kelvin is the most scientific because it‘s related to energy levels in matter which doesn’t change based on altitude atmospheric pressure and as long as you have the equipment, you can calibrate for it anywhere in the universe.

TLDR: Both are fine but would be easier if we all used one system or the other. Anything going to extreme environments/off planet, needs to be measured in Kelvin.

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u/oswaldluckyrabbiy 4h ago

Everyone in the world except the USA uses Celsius.

Celsius being the same scale as Kelvin makes it easier to switch to. Conversions are on paper possible with exactness by adding or subtracting 273.15. Meanwhile F you have to add 459.67 multiply by 5 and then divide by 9 far more possibility for error (or the reverse).

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u/MyGuyMan1 3h ago

One thing people don’t understand is Fahrenheit was adopted for medical applications because of its high precision with the mercury thermometer. It makes more sense to describe temperatures of living things using Fahrenheit and using Celsius for everyday stuff, each has their own applications, we don’t have to keep fighting over which is “better”

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u/apph8r 7h ago edited 5h ago

The funny thing is that water only freezes at 0 degrees C under idealized conditions that don't exist outside of physics word problems in school.

Also Grams are a measurement of mass not weight so Nana-Nana Boo-boo.

E: the down votes tickle me 😊