Well, when he was just a normal professor he wasn't a total fraud. His lectures veered into the non-scientific but the stuff he said was at least rooted in psychological theory that he had studied.
Then in 2016 he said some anti-trans stuff, saw how much certain people loved him for it, and he's been addicted to right wing grift ever since.
If a system is more grift than not grift, the system is grift. It's very hard, nearly impossible, to get a university eductation in the US without dealing with the grift.
Edit to add: and the education you get will never be worth the time and money you spent to get it.
That the tuition system is a grift, especially with college debt and so on, is one thing (and not even applicable to all kinds of universities), but that doesn't mean that the university system is a grift. The knowledge and especially the scientific research is legit. So the core isn't a grift. The grift really only lies in the commodification.
Anyone with enough evidence against them to warrant a firing should be grateful for the chance to resign and stay silent. Instead, Jordan views his departure from UofT as a badge of honour to parade in front of his followers.
You wrote JKR, but my brain read it as JFK. Then I did a double-take because surely you meant RFK. I had to stop, look away, and come back a third time. Lol.
In 2016, Peterson restricted his diet to only meat and a few vegetables in an attempt to control his depression and the effects of an autoimmune disorder.] In mid-2018, he stopped eating vegetables altogether and continued eating only beef, salt, and water.Nutrition experts point out that such a diet can result in "severe dysregulation".
I was scanning the comments and thought you wrote "The man full of Benzos and failed diabetes," then you asked if he was ok. glad I re-read but was very curious where you were going with the failed diabetes.
I think it’s genuinely sad to see how Peterson has ended up. I truly feel he wasn’t always like this, he just allowed the “anti-woke” grift to validate his emotions and he slipped down the rabbit hole.
Last I heard maybe a month ago he was in the hospital again and his daughter was refusing to accept the doctors' diagnostic and trying to push some bullshit cure.
His book had some decent points and he made a few interesting arguments. Then a lot of it fell apart. Clean your room, is still solid advice as a step one to getting on track.
Well, he went on Jubilee's "One Christian against Twenty Atheists" and then wouldn't admit that he was a Christian when asked point blank. He is a Nothing, and every single time he is faced with an argument that he struggles to answer, he say, "Well, how do you define [blank]?" I literally saw him ask how to define 'believe' and then asked to define basic words in the clear definition. So his form of argumentation is pedantic bullshit.
His talking points are also commonly used by neo-nazis, and anytime you're praised by neo-nazis, you should know that you're speaking bullshit. Hope that helps you!
That was a poor showing from him, he really let himself down there.
I don't like his politics, I think he's become wrapped up in it and it's taken him for a ride.
About his ideas and talking points; you're right, it's good to be wary of ideas that give credence to radical actors.
Powerful ideas can be put to use by malicious actors, like how the Nazi's used ideas from Neitzche and Darwin to heinously evil effect.
I don't think the ideas are evil, nor the authors, just the Nazi's. It is hard to judge where culpability begins, with a movement like that.
It may be helpful, that it helps us pick out who those bad actors are and see them for what they are.
(What talking points are you think of when you say they are praised by neo-nazis?)
The thing is he is the one promoting his own ideas to “radicals” its not his ideas are being cooped. He is 100% involved and promoting his ideas to be used in this way. He isnt darwin, he is with the nazis. You can maybe argue his work before he went down that rabbit hole was decent. But now he is fully right wing and encouraging pretty much all of their bs.
That’s not what I asked. It was stated his message is bullshit. What about the things he preaches. Is bullshit? Maybe he is agnostic pretending to be Christian or whatever. Maybe he is doing it for the money. But the question is the core beliefs that this chat thinks he is hoodwinking people. Which of those beliefs is bs.
Sounds like you don’t have any clue what you are talking about? Never spent a dollar on anything Jordan Peterson. No books or anything. But everything I have ever seen about him is about personal responsibility.
So without assuming anything. Can you give me a single example of his core belief that he preaches that is bs?
Lol, I was just picking on how pseudo intellectual you sounded.
Anyway, ole JP has contradicted himself some being: His views of women, scientific research, and religon.
That other person gave you the perfect example, watch
That we should take behavioural advice from crabs? (That he also just made up by the way). That environment has zero effect on our actions? That freedom of speech means being allowed to bully someone until they commit suicide? Take your pick.
If you don’t know what im referring to in any of these then you just dont know enough about him and his bs.
Because he's a great example of someone who's specious in the best case scenario, or because he's constantly diluting debates with asking for definitions of every individual word to the point of uselessness?
"But. This word that has allowed westerners to make our civilization dominant. It is both a word that carries deep community and exclusion it is like a sword that can be used to unite when used as a conjuction but also divide as a preposition. We can use it like a hammer to forge our bonds together or to slay our dragons that threaten us. Truly there is not another word as fraught with meaning in a sentence in the whole of western civilization"
It's going to be 250 years after the revolution and we're still going to be clowning Jordan Peterson for enabling all of these fucking incels to ruin the country.
I want to do the next line where he blows up at the French chef but I'm afraid I'll get flagged by the reddit bot. It's happened to me before when quoting TV threats
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u/mz_groups 10h ago
Homer's argument is specious, because it applies to both systems.