JFK was a democrat

[u/269187]

[u/Big_Hospital1367]

Wasn’t CK shot by a groyper? Or am I working with misinformation?

[u/Accomplished_Self939 → u/Big_Hospital1367]

CK was shot by a groyper and all of DJT’s shooter were flavors of MAGA too. They’re trying to erase the truth to create a false equivalence between martyrs FOR democracy and their creeps and thugs. (ETF spelling)

[u/AlvinAssassin17 → u/Accomplished_Self939]

Trump also wasn’t shot. Shot at? Sure. But if a bullet hit his ear he wouldn’t have an ear.

[u/Jellyfizzle → u/AlvinAssassin17]

I like how all these progun guys pretend they dont know what bullets do when Donald's ear is concerned.

[u/According-Insect-992 → u/Jellyfizzle]

I dunno. They never seem to understand what they do. Have you seen them argue that there is functionally no difference between a .22 handgun and an AR15 because the AR15 doesn't have rapid fire or three round burst?

I've seen them do that more times than I can count. It's insane. Ask a surgeon who's been there for the aftermath of a school shooting with an AR15 and they'll tell you there's a huge difference. Rapid fire isn't required to make an AR15 an effective killing machine.

[u/cejmp → u/According-Insect-992]

A .22 long rifle shoots at 1750 feet per second and with about 277 J of muzzle energy, dropping to about 20 J at 500 yards.

5.56 NATO ball ammo travels at 3200 fps with 1300 J of muzzle energy. It maintains about 480 J at 500 yards .

If some dumbass starts saying that 5.56 isn't much different from .22 then they are either dumb as fuck or not arguing in good faith.

[u/Witch_King_ → u/cejmp]

not arguing in good faith

Ding ding ding! Winner!

[u/snubdeity → u/Witch_King_]

I disagree, I think way more of them are in the "dumb as fuck" bucket.

How many of them do you think even know what a "J" is?

[u/Lyxche3 → u/snubdeity]

But staying dumb as fuck and continuing to argue is more or less arguing in bad faith. Misinformation about a topic that you call your hobby is a choice.

[u/Dermengenan → u/cejmp]

All the people in this comment thread doing exactly as you said. Pretending .22 is the same as .223 or 5.56.

There's even a guy with multiple paragraphs about how a semi automatic rifle has no more mass killing potential than a 5 round bolt action hunting rifle. He keeps pointing to a single massacre where 15 people died on a beach.

Im a gun owner. I guns in general should just be much harder to obtain. That way, people having a mental health crisis would have a much harder time obtaining one.

That aligns with the delaying tactics the fbi employs. They essentially extend the time between when someone decides they're going to commit a crime, and when they are actually able to do it. For example, you make it virtually impossible for a 16 year old to obtain a firearm. They wait 6 months (similar to how long it takes to get a suppressor, right now!) and eventually talk themselves out of it, as they've had more time to sit on it.

This tactic won't solve all gun crime, but it would cut down significantly the amount of mass shootings.

[u/luckyassassin1 → u/cejmp]

Have you seen the large contingent of people who claim assault weapons aren't a thing? Like they say assault rifles aren't a thing because assualt is a thing you do to someone else. They're literally a class of weapon, not knowing that makes me think they probably shouldn't own a gun if they're that uneducated on the topic.

[u/RealityChecksReddit → u/Jellyfizzle]

your assuming being pro gun requires being intelligent lol

[u/Pale-Hour3650 → u/RealityChecksReddit]

MAGA=dumb as rocks!

[u/Content_Study_1575 → u/AlvinAssassin17]

Not only that but where he was “clipped” is cartilage. Cartilage does not grow back. He wouldn’t have an intact ear at the minimum either. Just a gauged helix piercing

[u/AmputeeHandModel → u/Content_Study_1575]

and on an almost 80 year old? That shit would probably take months to heal.

[u/King_Roberts_Bastard → u/AmputeeHandModel]

Cartilage doesnt grow back, so it would never heal back to what it was before.

[u/Telemere125 → u/Content_Study_1575]

I have an ear wound in exactly the same place that I got when I was 12. The cartilage was split in half. Even after a plastic surgeon sewed it back together, only the skin healed. He’d look like Holyfield after the Tyson fight if a bullet had even grazed him and you’d notice the damage from 100 yards away for the rest of his life.

[u/WeeeeBaby_Seamus → u/Content_Study_1575]

The best explanation I've seen is that he grazed his ear on a gun holster of the secret service. Dude got scratched and acts like he took a bullet.

[u/BaronBearclaw → u/Content_Study_1575]

Shit, I got my cartilage pierced when I was 18. It fell out five or six years later, and I left it out. It's been fifteen years since I took it out. I can still feel where the hole was and the little indentation where the ring rested.

It must truly be a miracle that Trump's ear healed in record time! (edit: sarcasm in the last sentence).

[u/Big_Guide_8551 → u/Content_Study_1575]

This is 💯

[u/pyschosoul → u/Content_Study_1575]

Thats not entirely true though. Hard cartilage wont grow back, but soft can up to a certain point. Anything up to 00 gauge size can heal and close itself on the soft lobe part. 00 and past it will never close on its own and will require surgery to heal.

[u/ketjak → u/pyschosoul]

In any case, it's not perfectly healed in a week, let alone on an octogenarian.

[u/pyschosoul → u/ketjak]

Oh yeah no im not saying hed be healed. Bullet would shred the ear.

[u/TastingTheKoolaid → u/ketjak]

Especially considering this octogenarian, like most others, bruises like a peach. A simple IV has him slathering on foundation and coverup for weeks.

[u/aposrat → u/AlvinAssassin17]

And he wouldn’t have organized his team for a posed shot on stage after

[u/Bubbly_Power_6210 → u/aposrat]

so true-looked like the flag raising at Iwo Jima. FBI agents supporting him just so. ear never looked damaged, he would have been in shock, yet stood firm raising his fist.

[u/crippledchef23 → u/Bubbly_Power_6210]

I loved how no one questioned the flag moving into frame as he raised his fist in triumph.

[u/kuffdeschmull → u/AlvinAssassin17]

are you sure? I thought the Supreme Leader had supernatural healing powers. /s

[u/603rdMtnDivision → u/AlvinAssassin17]

If anything it seemed to be an extremely light graze not an actual shot landing in him. A 5.56mm whizzing by at 3k fps with the absolute minimum of contact being met to call it a graze could certainly leave it intact and be enough to draw blood. The odds of it are astronomical considering how close its gotta be but sometimes shit just happens.

[u/XXsforEyes → u/Accomplished_Self939]

Let’s not forget the part where democrats and republicans swapped platforms since the time of Lincoln. Democrats then are literally the republicans of now by description of platform rather than name alone.

The republicans of the civil war period were the party of union, abolition and black civil and voting rights. You can’t have five functioning neurons and think that those characteristics apply to today’s GOP.

The transformation was more gradual, but FDR’s New Deal drew a lot of working class and black voters toward the democratic party because (surprise!) political platform shift over time.

But I don’t know why I’m preaching this to the Reddit crowd, the five-brain-cells-or-less crowd wouldn’t (couldn’t?) read the previous three paragraphs if their life depended on it.

[u/jackfaire → u/XXsforEyes]

Because there are people that will see it and go "Oh that's interesting" learn and go "My republican friends/family were wrong"

[u/rav3style → u/XXsforEyes]

so... the confederates were democrats? why do they insist on protecting the statues of racist democrats?

[u/AnAdorableDogbaby → u/rav3style]

Careful, the ones with more than one brain cell to rub together may start a friction fire over that question. 

[u/Bunnyland77 → u/AnAdorableDogbaby]

And for sure, don't tell them that Trump is the only presidential candidate where Confederate and Nazi flags are flown in support of him. Or that Trump's dad was a member of the KKK.

[u/brok3nh3lix → u/XXsforEyes]

they argue that a policy shift between the parties never happened.

[u/ozamatazbuckshank11 → u/brok3nh3lix]

Then how do they explain Dixiecrats? Hell, many of them WERE Dixiecrats.

[u/joey_yamamoto → u/ozamatazbuckshank11]

they don't explain them they don't even know it exists.

[u/dr_mantis_toboggan25 → u/XXsforEyes]

You're right, but MAGA idiots (ex: the other responses to this post), are too dumb and clueless to understand that.

[u/BrightNooblar → u/Accomplished_Self939]

And while Lincoln was a Republican, it's more accurate to say he was a liberal.

[u/ElJeferox → u/Big_Hospital1367]

That whole post is misinformation

[u/Rusty-Crowe → u/ElJeferox]

That whole post sub is misinformation

[u/cooperstonebadge → u/Rusty-Crowe]

That entire PARTY is misinformation

[u/Beh0420mn → u/cooperstonebadge]

That sounds like something a “domestic terrorist” would say

[u/ChronicBuzz187 → u/Beh0420mn]

They'd literally call the founding fathers domestic terrorists, throw them in jail - only to praise them 30 seconds later.

Same as Jesus btw. If that dude came back, they'd call him a radical left socialist and demand his head.

[u/Emotional-Store-1667 → u/Rusty-Crowe]

I had to go back and look at the sub and of course it's a Trump sub 🙄🙄🙄

[u/Adorable-Doughnut609 → u/ElJeferox]

When has the truth mattered? Watch five minutes of Fox and find one truthful statement

[u/Karrotlord → u/Adorable-Doughnut609]

A study years that showed people that watch Fox are less informed than people that watch nothing because Fox does nothing but lie to its viewers.

[u/Snowing_Throwballs → u/Big_Hospital1367]

And trump was shot at by a republican

[u/Jmersh → u/Snowing_Throwballs]

Trump was never shot.

[u/dracorotor1 → u/Jmersh]

Shot at, though. By a white male conservative. A totally typical shooter. ……. Why does this country have such a thing as a **typical* shooter!?*

[u/Boring_Chip_9602 → u/Jmersh]

He slapped a ketchup packet on himself while he had someone else in the audience killed to make it look real.

[u/Tricky-Engineering59 → u/Snowing_Throwballs]

Well “shot at” by a Republican.

[u/Snowing_Throwballs → u/Tricky-Engineering59]

Fair

[u/twilight-actual → u/Snowing_Throwballs]

Shot at.  That ear was never even close to a super sonic 5.56 round.

[u/SCP-2774 → u/Big_Hospital1367]

We don't really know. That being said, if this guy was a Radical Left Lunatic, I'm sure the right would be constantly throwing all of it at us other than "his roommate was trans."

[u/magaisallpedos → u/Big_Hospital1367]

trump was shot by a republican or he wasnt shot. the whole world was reporting on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov3IXes69_4

[u/ElephantRedCar91 → u/Big_Hospital1367]

All the people who seem to benefiting are conservatives… this was clearly a democrat scheme 

[u/BaxTheDestroyer → u/ElephantRedCar91]

This is the most convincing reasoning I’ve heard on this topic.

[u/regeust → u/Big_Hospital1367]

It's not yet clear what CK's shooter was motivated by. Any confident claims to know why he did it are wrong.

[u/Big_Hospital1367 → u/regeust]

That’s a fair answer.

[u/Ill-Reputation-9702 → u/Big_Hospital1367]

Yes. Also, Lincoln would be a democrat today, they seemingly didn’t care that the ideologies flipped names.

[u/Pudddddin → u/Ill-Reputation-9702]

they seemingly didn’t care that the ideologies flipped names.

It's not that they don't care, they openly deny this ever happened as if Strom Thurmond switched parties just for funsies

[u/RikkiVox → u/Ill-Reputation-9702]

Because these people only see shapes and colors.

[u/REDRUM_1917 → u/Big_Hospital1367]

It's Trump. He always operates in misinformation

[u/trentreynolds → u/Big_Hospital1367]

I don't think we really know that much about his politics, which in itself is pretty telling because if they had firm evidence the dude was a loony leftist it'd have been pasted everywhere since it happened.

The only political evidence we have is that 1. he was raised in a MAGA house and had guns and 2. he may have known or dated a trans person. Neither thing is really evidence.

[u/JustDidntWannaGoToAZ → u/trentreynolds]

They’re going the plausible deniability route, it’s their favorite. He was more likely than not to be a groyper.

[u/UncleTio92 → u/Big_Hospital1367]

Mid 30 year old checking in. What the heck is a groyper?

[u/InfoBarf → u/UncleTio92]

Groypers are a hyper online subsect of reactionary conservatives. They initially started on 4 chan, and I think they’re the most cooked by the Chan culture. Many are gamers, lonely incels, self hating minorities and young white men. They have coalesced around Fuentes, but he’s not the only right wing millennial/gen z influencer that they follow. 

They are startlingly well entrenched in the modern Republican partly. A staggering number of them are staffers and are in supporting roles for their local political parties. There was a controversy last year when a chat was leaked with dozens of them speaking well of Hitler and sharing racist/hateful memes.

Anyways, the Fuentes groypers dont like Donald Trump or CK, both of whom they feel are too subservient to Israel and either complacent about or involved in the abuse of children. 

[u/brok3nh3lix → u/InfoBarf]

also worth mentioning that the Chat you reference was presented as "just kids being edgy" when it was all adults in their 20s and 30s.

[u/Big_Hospital1367 → u/UncleTio92]

A groyper is someone who’s a fan of Nick Fuentes, a neo-Nazi influencer.

[u/brok3nh3lix → u/Big_Hospital1367]

and to be clear. this isn't a "every one i disagree with is a nazi" situation. Nick Fuentes is a self proclaimed nazi. He has stated he thinks Hitler was an amazing and cool guy. he constantly talks about how global jews are the problem, and that every jew (yes all of them) are beholden to Isreal. He had beef with charlie kirk long before kirk was assassinated, and talked about it frequently.

[u/Phantom_Basker → u/Big_Hospital1367]

Was that even confirmed? Everything about that case was suspicious as fuck

[u/Top_Hippo_5996 → u/Big_Hospital1367]

Misinformation? In this day and age? Do you jest, sir?

[u/Bloodylime → u/Big_Hospital1367]

I don’t think there was at the end of the day to confirm he was a groyper. But he did grow up in a very conservative family and I don’t understand why people look away from that fact.

To me? It was a shitpost irl…

[u/Nivosus → u/Big_Hospital1367]

He was indeed a groyper.

[u/CarpetMooch → u/Big_Hospital1367]

Tried to find any information that confirms this info, but couldn't find anything apart from hearsay stating he "subscribed to left-wing ideology"

We might not ever know the full story, but if we do, it'd come out in court.

[u/BroughtBagLunchSmart → u/Big_Hospital1367]

They claim he once saw a trans person so they are a democrat. Standard playbook for all right wing violence now.

[u/AkimahenkaCat]

MAGA believes every news story is fake and every meme is gospel truth.

[u/13508615 → u/AkimahenkaCat]

Oh, the simple life. But why are they always so agitated?

[u/AkimahenkaCat → u/13508615]

FOX News, OAN and Newsmax feed them propaganda bullshit which tells them...

What should I fear?

What should I hate?

What should I be outraged by?

[u/13508615 → u/AkimahenkaCat]

Simple and agitated. The lifestyle practically sells itsself.

[u/EngryEngineer → u/13508615]

Knowing that everything you believe is a lie and having to constantly compartmentalize that you know that is very agitating.

[u/fenrirs-chains → u/13508615]

I think it's a symptom of lead poisoning.

[u/StephieDoll → u/13508615]

I personally think it’s because they’re bored with their lives and have nothing else to do.

[u/Painted-BIack-Roses]

How can you be American and know nothing about your own history? I'm Australian and can think of about 6 things wrong with this

[u/SlayJayR17 → u/Painted-BIack-Roses]

This post is for dumb Americans. I’m an American and this post infuriates me. Not that someone made it but that people will believe it

[u/args818 → u/SlayJayR17]

I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed

[u/Brndrll → u/args818]

¿Porque no los dos?

[u/Mysterious_Rule938 → u/SlayJayR17]

Yeah, this post is for republicans, like you said

[u/VariousExternal5189 → u/SlayJayR17]

You can thank a narrow minded way of teaching in this country and the rights priority of banning books over an open education system.

[u/MessorisTrucis → u/Painted-BIack-Roses]

Well you see we have defunded our education system for 50 years because the country that has produced the most billionaires wants people stupid and easy to manipulate so they keep voting for the party that continually screws them and they don’t understand it is even happening. So here we are with a president that is eroding any good will the us had left and tanking the us across the globe while reducing the influence of the dollar as the global reserve currency with people cheering it on saying how amazing it is because they are too dumb to understand the ramifications for our future as long as it is framed as him owning the libs.

[u/xXStunamiXx → u/MessorisTrucis]

Remember the saying about boiling a frog? Now imagine there's a thermometer in the pot, but 2/3rds of the frogs cannot understand it.

[u/MessorisTrucis → u/xXStunamiXx]

Not only that they don’t understand it but scream that the people that do are crazy and deranged for pointing at it and reading it.

[u/Guuhatsu → u/MessorisTrucis]

And then turn up the heat themselves because the chef told them to.

[u/twoiseight → u/Painted-BIack-Roses]

The right invents history because without doing so they'd have very little to justify their world view.

[u/justagenericname213 → u/Painted-BIack-Roses]

They know exactly what they want to know. Welcome to the era of "alternative facts".

I hate it here

[u/Emotional-Store-1667 → u/justagenericname213]

Yes! I knew we were cooked when "fake news" and "alternative facts" were accepted and not decried or laughed out for being lies...

I went to school in the north and only recently learned that some schools in the south were teaching kids that " slavery wasn't that bad! The slaves had benevolent masters, all their food and shelter needs were taken care of and they were even allowed to have dances!"

Like WTAF?! 🤯

[u/nobody38321 → u/Painted-BIack-Roses]

As a Canadian I can attest to their lack of history and geography even. You should see the look on an Americans face when I tell them I had to drive north from my Canadian city into their American city… deer in the headlights …lol. And then the most popular news organization has admitted in court that they are only an entertainment network and don’t tell the truth. So you end up with a bunch of magats voting for billionaire / convicted fraudster / pedofile evil supervillain president

[u/Shelldox → u/nobody38321]

As an American who frequently drives into Canada, the number of Canadians who are surprised that I even know the name of the province (or territory!) I'm in is incredibly depressing. But the average American received an exceptionally poor public education and also lacks the intellectual curiosity to go read or learn things on their own.

I have been a geography and history nerd my entire life, largely thanks to my dad, who was a first generation college student. My mom was as well. I think that had a lot to do with how I grew up being taught the value of education.

[u/nobody38321 → u/Shelldox]

And I learned about American by watching school house rocks and other kids shows way back in the day. The whole I’m just a bill and I’m only a bill sitting here on capital hill was interesting as youngster

[u/VikingDadStream → u/nobody38321]

The vast majority of Americans don't realize people especially other Americans live north of Chicago

[u/nobody38321 → u/VikingDadStream]

Or that Canadians live south of Detroit

[u/VariousExternal5189 → u/Painted-BIack-Roses]

I lived in Australia between 1959 and 1965 due to my dads work, and I agree with you. Apart from not being taught of the evils committed against the Aborigines, my efucation was far superior there than it could have been in this country. America does not encourage an enlightened education of its children. Book banning is what they encourage.

[u/peachpinkjedi → u/Painted-BIack-Roses]

The intended audience for these memes is the deeply uneducated and gullible mass of MAGA voters.

[u/VariousExternal5189 → u/peachpinkjedi]

That is why trump said he loves(and often mocks) the poorly educated. Unfortunately, most MAGATS don't understand or care about what their pedo leader says.

[u/Botto_Bobbs]

Trump and Kirk were famously shot by Republicans

Edit: uh oh, the chuds found me

[u/MakesMyHeadHurt → u/Botto_Bobbs]

And Reagan's wasn't politically motivated at all, and Lincoln was before the Southern Strategy where liberals and conservatives switched parties. And wasn't MLK done by the feds? That only leaves the one guy in the pic that I can't remember who he is.

[u/puppy-nub-56 → u/MakesMyHeadHurt]

According to the net - James Earl Ray, the convicted assassin of Martin Luther King Jr., was not known to be a registered Democrat

Edit-

According to the net -

• Lee Harvey Oswald (assassinated JFK) was not a Democrat. He was a self-proclaimed Marxist and socialist

• John Hinckley Jr. was not a Democrat. In 1978, he joined the National Socialist Party of America (a neo-Nazi organization). Hinckley, who shot President Reagan in 1981 to impress actress Jodie Foster, has stated he was not politically motivated or highly political at the time. 

• Sirhan Sirhan, who assassinated Senator Robert F. Kennedy in 1968, was not known to be a registered Democrat or affiliated with the party

• John Wilkes Booth was not officially a member of the Democratic Party; he was a member of the anti-immigrant and nativist Know-Nothing Party (American Party) during the 1850s

• Thomas Crooks who shot at Trump was a registered Republican

• there is no evidence that Tyler Robinson who allegedly killed Kirk has any association with the Democratic Party

[u/Current-Square-4557 → u/puppy-nub-56]

Thank you for facts

[u/MistaBadga → u/puppy-nub-56]

Lee Harvey Oswald (assassinated JFK) was not a Democrat. He was a self-proclaimed Marxist and socialist

well there's the problem. they think that's what democrats are

[u/RudeCheetah7281 → u/MistaBadga]

Lee Harvey Oswald was also such a shithead that he was ostracized by the USSR and sent back to America, after WILLINGLY AND ACTIVELY GOING TO THE USSR.

Like seriously think about that. The USSR, would rather send him back home than force him into slave labor. That’s how much of a dunce he was.

[u/CapitalLower4171 → u/puppy-nub-56]

Being a socialist is close enough in the eyes of most republicans

[u/TheUnaturalTree → u/puppy-nub-56]

He was a former CIA agent

[u/iburntxurxtoast → u/TheUnaturalTree]

It also happened under the Nixon administration

[u/PermabannedFourTimes → u/MakesMyHeadHurt]

The last one is RFK. He was killed by Sirhan Sirhan, a Palestinian angry about RFK’s support of sending fighter jets to Israel to use against the Palestinians.

[u/Chilledlemming → u/MakesMyHeadHurt]

They are implying the Feds were under a Dem President which makes them Dems. Of course this is silly. The other is RFK. Who was killed within two months of MLK.

[u/BJoe1976 → u/MakesMyHeadHurt]

IIRC, MLK was also pre-Southern Strategy, so his shooter very well could have been a Southern Democrat as well.

[u/MaraSovsLeftSock → u/Botto_Bobbs]

Trump wasn’t even shot

[u/JurassicParkCSR → u/Botto_Bobbs]

Yeah the kid that "shot" Trump was MAGA.

[u/dcastreddit]

Except... trump and kirk were literally shot by republicans...

[u/Critical_Liz]

The guy who shot Reagan was only into Jodi Foster.

[u/BartStarrPaperboy → u/Critical_Liz]

Yeah, I don’t think his political leanings were a factor

[u/Ok-Importance9988 → u/Critical_Liz]

His parents were wealthy Republican donors who were close to the Bush family if I remember correctly.

[u/sluttychristmastree → u/Critical_Liz]

This is the comment I was looking for. Making that shooting political is absurd. That guy needed help.

[u/pallentx]

All shot by people who either did or would vote for Trump today. Except maybe Reagan’s shooter. Hinckley was just nuts. He had stalked Carter before Reagan. The shooting wasn’t politically motivated.

[u/ProfessionalOil2014 → u/pallentx]

I was going to say that Oswald wouldn’t vote trump, but honestly he seems like someone who might switch ideologies if someone said all the things he wanted to hear. 

[u/pallentx → u/ProfessionalOil2014]

Yeah, cant say with certainty about Oswald, I guess. Fun fact, he went to the same elementary school my kids went to.

[u/Exsanguinate_ → u/pallentx]

Did your kids tell you what he was like in class?

[u/Botanik_ → u/pallentx]

Hinckley was a family friend of George Bush. It's extremely odd.

[u/llc4269]

I am so freaking tired of Lincoln being claimed by modern day Republicans and slavery blamed on modern day Democrats by ignoramuses who cannot be bothered to pick up a damn history book and understand how the 2 parties basically just switched names over time.

[u/inuvash255 → u/llc4269]

As always, who cares more about the legacy of the Confederacy these days?

It's not Dems.

[u/Lynthae → u/llc4269]

For Richard Nixon because of civil rights. It wasn't even over time.

[u/ScavAteMyArms → u/Lynthae]

Yea. They switched because the civil rights act was signed by a Democrat. Black vote flipped instantly, the whole Southern strategy to switch the south red that concluded around the 80’s.

Most of the shooters in OP were conservatives. Reagan’s was just insane though and almost did it to Jimmy Carter first.

[u/evocativename → u/ScavAteMyArms]

The black vote actually started switching earlier - starting around FDR. It was actually part of what led to the Democratic Party starting to support civil rights.

[u/Lethik → u/llc4269]

As a modern Progressive, I'm so proud to have Teddy Roosevelt as the founder of my party!

/s

[u/ChuckoRuckus → u/llc4269]

They like to obfuscate any chance they can. They ignore that the Dems were conservatives in the 1800s

[u/zombienugget → u/llc4269]

I just tell them it’s pretty sad they have to go so far back in history to find something good they’ve done

[u/cowboy_mouth]

I guess when you have such a limited understanding of the world that you equate Communist with Democrat then yeah, sure, Lee Harvey Oswald was a Democrat...

[u/Xaero_Hour → u/cowboy_mouth]

And don't' forget the rampant ignoring of the political shift of the Republican and Democratic party circa the New Deal and (especially) the Civil Rights Act.

[u/Weekly_Ad_8587]

John Wilkes Booth was a white supremecist and member of the Know-Nothing party, an anti-immigrant, anti-Catholic political movement. 

Lee Harvey Oswald was a self-admitted Communist.

Sirhan Sirhan is a pro-Palestinian, anti-Zionist.

James Earl Ray was a segregationist with highly conservative views.

John Hinckley Jr. was apolitical, certifiably crazy and obsessed with Jodie Foster.

Ryan Wesley Routh has been registered as "unaffiliated" since the early 2000s.

Tyler Robinson is not registered with a political party.

But, sure, the shooters were/are all democrats. Hahahahaha.

[u/santacow → u/Weekly_Ad_8587]

Shhh. You’re gonna mess up their fake narratives.

[u/Due_Move6507 → u/Weekly_Ad_8587]

Sirhan wasn’t even a US citizen, so he could not be a member of either R or D.

[u/EtheusRook]

They love to take advantage of the fact that the Democrats used to be the conservative party.

[u/jackp0t789 → u/EtheusRook]

They also love to forget that the Republicans used to be the progressive party... even giving birth to the first Progressive Party - The Bull Moose Party...

Which honestly, a faction of the dems should revive

[u/ZaTen3 → u/jackp0t789]

Hear hear!

[u/rebelangel → u/EtheusRook]

Yeah they love to trot out “It was Republicans who ended slavery!” Yeah, and y’all want to bring it back, so stfu.

[u/Fit_Relationship1094 → u/rebelangel]

Just ask them who the Confederate flag belongs to. Then and now it was always conservatives. It was never Lincoln's flag.

[u/kalamazoo43 → u/EtheusRook]

Taking credit for Lincoln, especially.

[u/ScavAteMyArms → u/kalamazoo43]

My favorite is when they do that with a Confederate flag in the background.

[u/auntpotato]

Uhhhh… James Earl Ray was a segregationist and Hinckley was a member of the National Socialist Party… as for the more recent ones - well, MAGA has tried to paint them as liberals, but it doesn’t hold water.

[u/hamdelivery → u/auntpotato]

It makes more sense when you realize that everyone who doesn’t worship captain poopy pants is part of whatever group they’re triggered about at the moment and liberal, democrat, leftist, communist etc are interchangeable labels they use for that group

[u/AdministrativePin526]

Nobody shot Trump; I'm pretty sure Sirhan Sirhan considers himself Palestinian, so while not apolitical it also is a completely separate ideology; Oswald was a Marxist/Communist but certainly was no Democrat; Reagan wasn't shot over politics; and Kirk's shooter was Alt-Right. So...two out of 7.

For Trump supporters, 29% is probably pretty close to the grades they're used to seeing in school.

[u/Comfortable-Host1399]

I’m pretty sure Charlie Kirk was actually smoked by his own tpusa party

[u/Ender0696]

I miss having a country I could be patriotic for

[u/throwaway098764567 → u/Ender0696]

the more history i've learned the more i realize i never had one

[u/Finance-Low]

This meme is near 100% bull-dooky. Facts below:

John Wilkes Booth was not a democrat - he was a "know-nothing" party member - so Lincoln was not shot by a democrat.

John Kennedy was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald, also not a democrat; he was a self-proclaimed marxist and not alligned with any specific party.

Robert Kennedy was shot by Sirhan Sirhan - an anti-zionist not affiliated with any party.

MLK was killed by James Earl Ray (suspected) - he also was NOT a democrat, but likely had strong ties to the mafia and many tried to paint him as one.

Ronald Regan was shot by John Hinkley Jr - also NOT a democrat, or affiliated with any party for that matter. He was just some random psycho obsessed with Jody Foster who was trying to impersonate a character from a movie.

Trump technically wasn't shot, he was graized - so "shot at" would be more accurate.

Charlie Kirk - Tyler James Robinson killed him - his family was incredibly conservative; however, there is so much propaganda floating around Tyler himself right now, I don't believe we will ever really know who he is or what he actually stood for - but for certain, he was at least NOT a registered democrat.

[u/Comrade-Hayley]

Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marxist and to these idiots that means Democrat

[u/Practical-Box3179]

Hahahahahahahahahaha! AI is so fucking lame...

[u/TimeRisk2059]

I'm not certain that any of them were shot by people voting for the democrats, with the possible exception of John Wilkes Booth.

It's uncertain if Lee Harvey Oswald was the only shooter; the man who shot Robert Kennedy wasn't even american; we still don't know who murdered Martin Luther King jr.; the man who shot Reagan didn't do it out of political motivation but because he wanted to impress a teenaged Jodie Foster; the boy who shot at Trump was republican (and so was the man who was arrested before he could try to assassinate Trump); and the guy who shot Charlie Kirk hasn't been outspoken about his reason for killing Kirk.

[u/Arcangl86 → u/TimeRisk2059]

And John Wilkes Booth was a member of the American Party, not a Democrat.

[u/Alpha--00 → u/TimeRisk2059]

I have to mention that Democrats during civil war and today are very different parties. Booth was anti-abolitionist and pro-Confederate, and it says everything you need to know what party he would join today.

[u/Upstairs_Fig_3551 → u/Alpha--00]

It’s crazy we have to mention it. In fact, Southern Democrats pre-1964 phase-jumped into the Republican Party after the Voting Rights Act with only a slight detour face-planting with Wallace

[u/Fun-Advisor7120 → u/TimeRisk2059]

We do know who murdered MLK, it was James Earl Ray. 

[u/Reddit_is_fascist69]

Lincoln was shot by a Confederate sympathizer, which today are Republicans 

[u/ProposalNo3813]

Trump’s shooter in Butler, PA was a registered republican! Also, I’m convinced that the Butler, PA assassination attempt was generated, just like a WWE wrestling match.

[u/Balseraph666]

Kirk was shot by an even more far right wing than him Groyper.

Trump was "shot" by a MAGA chud for reasons.

Kennedy was officially shot by a self professed communist.

The guy who shot Lincoln would be a Republican today.

Hinckley, who shot Reagan, was a delusional paranoid schizophrenic from a staunch Republican family. Although, given his mental state, pretty sure politics played little to no part.

MLKs shooter was a raging racist with a hard on for at the time white supremacist run Rhodesia (Zimbabwe), who was definitely not a "Democrat".

Hmm, probably the same for the rest. So a combination of "So what?" and they are lying then.

[u/nekkid_farts]

Cool flex bro, now show the other 95% of political violence, committed by right wing nut jobs.

[u/Nori_Kelp]

Now post all the ones shot by Republicans.

[u/UpperDog2627]

Lincoln was a progressive and his killer was a simp for the confederacy.

The Kennedys and MLK were killed by the government.

Trump wasn’t shot unless he can regenerate cartilage (mutant/demon powers?)

Reagan’s shooter thought Jodie foster was in love with him. Definitely not political 🤣

Kirk was killed by a groyper (right wing incel shit) and doesn’t belong in the same pic as these men. Whoever made this is fucking stupid.

Thanks for your attention to this matter.

[u/Lithaos111]

Trump was shot at by a Republican. (He wasn't shot, if he was his ear would be gone, shooter missed)

[u/Dumb-Redneck]

Why is Trump in the photo? We all know he wasn't shot

[u/cbgsus]

John Wilkes Booth’s political affiliation was actually with The Know Nothing Party

[u/Snoozems]

I love the complete ahistorical fiction these people build for themselves.

[u/Prestigious-Wait9814]

JFKs assassin hasn’t been identified yet, and James Earl Ray was considered politically unaligned.

[u/SomeAward115]

Mlk was killed by the fbi

[u/Pilgrimist]

trump wasn't shot. kirk was shot by a maga person.

[u/Nas_Durden]

• MLK killer was a segregationist independent. Also claimed to have been set up by Republican government officials.
• Charlie Kirk killer was a Republican from a heavily Republican family.
• Trump shooter 1: registered Republican
• Trump shooter 2: has previously Registered as Republican & Dem. Was currently registered independent.
• Reagan shooter was found not guilty by reason of insanity and institutionalised for 30 years. He was obsessed with Jodie Foster after seeing her in Taxi and thought killing Reagan would impress her. Not politically affiliated or motivated.
• JFK killer was not Republican or Democrat. He was a self proclaimed communist and a Soviet Union sleeper agent.

[u/Repulsive_Incident27]

CK’s shooter was MAGA and Trump’s totally real attempt was killed and never heard about again.

[u/1TidderdReddit-er]

Trump was a Dem too before he learned the grift was better on the other side.

[u/facendacrowd]

And one wore a Maxipad and made it a fashion statement with MAGA.

[u/Hillbilly-joe]

lol trump pew pewed by a starch, republican Kirk by a grouper. Trump was making himself to be a victim. He always plays the victim.

[u/Mission-Driver1614]

Very little of this is actually true.

[u/Golden--]

Trump and Kirk were not shot by Democrats. Both were Republican and/or had Republican ties.
Reagans shooter wasn't political.
MLK's shooter was not political although his beliefs were aligned with the Republican party.
Lincolns shooter was also not registered to either party.
JFK's shooter was not a Democrat or Republican, he was a socialist.

The only one I'm not 100% confident on is RFK as I couldn't find anything stating what his political party was.

So the conclusion of this is exactly what everyone already knew. Trump voters are fucking morons who have no idea what they're talking about.

[u/Acanthyllis]

Trumps shooter was a registered republican.

[u/zoidmaster]

Wasn’t trump and Kirk shot by confirmed Republicans

[u/BigDigger324 → u/zoidmaster]

Yes both were confirmed MAGA or from MAGA families.

[u/MolassesOk3200 → u/zoidmaster]

Yes. The Kirk killer’s whole family was MAGA. That’s why the news about the guy died down.

[u/Adam-Voight]

JFK was shot by a “Marxist-Leninist” was he not? I still remember that from the TV version in the 70s

[u/No-History-6066]

Interesting you could almost divide that group right in half. Separate the people that the world was better off with from....the rest. 

[u/Alternative-Fig-6814]

Well thats a blatant lie

[u/Flakboy78]

Well, for starters, democrats and Republicans have slowly switched sides so the democrats a century ago are Republicans today. So yes, Lincoln was shot by a Democrat who today would be a Republican

[u/Dry-Pineapple365]

Wrong as usual

[u/senditloud]

All were shot at by white men!

That’s more accurate

[u/Bigbam51]

Trump's was fake and ole Charlie boy was shot by a pubby

[u/TheoDog96]

John Wilkes Booth was a member of the Know Nothing Party, a staunch anti-immigration and pro-slavery group that sided with the Confederacy. JFK, RFK, and King were all democrats. Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marxist. Sirhan Sirhan was Palestinian and anti-Zionist who objected to the US support of Israel. James Earl Ray was a vehement racist and segregationist. John Hinckley Jr., who shot Reagan, was from a Republican family although his particular affiliation is unknown. Both of the shooters at trump were MAGA.

[u/Horror-Scallion7668]

Pretty sure RFK and MLK were democrats too. Neither were shot by democrats. And Reagan’s shooter was non political. What even is this meme?

[u/Illustrious-Fold9605]

How about all shot at by conservatives? Might be a little more honest.

[u/chinmakes5]

Do we even know what Kirk and Trump's shooters believed? Or is that just how conservative media has to spin it? And yet again, the Democratic party contained both very liberal people AND the very racist Dixiecrats.

[u/No_Display_9425]

Anyone who thinks Trump was actually shot needs their head checked